If they’re supported the rog ally with custom fixes seems like they’d probably do device specific fi

If they’re supported the rog ally with custom fixes seems like they’d probably do device specific fixes if it is a popular enough handheld like the ally, legion

JJorge If they’re supported the rog ally with custom fixes seems like they’d probably d...

Aru•8/14/24, 12:29 AM

note that the ROG Ally fixes in the changelog are just stuff they imported from the upstream linux kernel, nothing custom from Valve yet

JorgeOP•8/14/24, 12:29 AM

Onexplayer, gpd, and ayaneo are basically the only other notable manufacturers except maybe Msi but they suck

lune5•8/14/24, 12:29 AM

sorry 4 repost didnt get a response earlier. anyone running to issues with integer scaling specifically on this patch? i rebase to bazzite-dc:stable and it works normally but when on regular stable it scaling native res like im running a 4:3res on 1600p. but its native. on a legion go if makes any diff and running 800p is a even smaller scaled screen

JJorge Onexplayer, gpd, and ayaneo are basically the only other notable manufacturers e...

Aru•8/14/24, 12:35 AM

tbh i suspect valve will support ROG Ally and LGO first, simply because they're available at retail in the US

matt_schwartz•8/14/24, 12:36 AM

I also don’t think valve will add support out of the kindness of their hearts, it’s most likely if a manufacturer(s) ponies up some sort of fee to make it happen. unless they just go straight to wide release.

matt_schwartz•8/14/24, 12:37 AM

or I guess they just offer it separate and not as a shipping option but then you have to on-ramp users to Linux which isn’t ideal

Crono•8/14/24, 12:38 AM

Maybe it'll be a recovery option

Amarielle•8/14/24, 12:38 AM

you say that, but valve have huge reasons to work on it for other handhelds

Amarielle•8/14/24, 12:38 AM

30% xD

Crono•8/14/24, 12:38 AM

They're already getting that 30% on those handhelds

AAmarielle you say that, but valve have huge reasons to work on it for other handhelds

Kyle Gospo•8/14/24, 12:38 AM

That 30% they're collecting regardless of what OS the handheld is running though

Kyle Gospo•8/14/24, 12:38 AM

Unless you're going to tell me you buy games on epic

Kyle Gospo•8/14/24, 12:38 AM

Like some kind of unicorn

Crono•8/14/24, 12:38 AM

Unfortunately Steam is too good

Amarielle•8/14/24, 12:38 AM

oh ofc but more focus on steam is good for them

Mmatt_schwartz I also don’t think valve will add support out of the kindness of their hearts, i...

j0rge•8/14/24, 12:39 AM

man I would totally be like "pricing is based on how linux friendly your shit is, so you better learn how to linux really quick because Imma charge you money."

Amarielle•8/14/24, 12:39 AM

they've wanted to attack windows for ages too

KKyle Gospo Unless you're going to tell me you buy games on epic

Crono•8/14/24, 12:39 AM

I bought Ubisoft games on Epic, when they had the chain coupon thing that let you buy them for 5 bucks a pop

Aru•8/14/24, 12:39 AM

tbh I think Valve's window of opportunity to get SteamOS on other handhelds is slowly disappearing.

other manufacturers are now heavily investing in Windows GUIs, Microsoft also probably isn't sitting still, and you have other options like Playtron slowly being worked on in the background

j0rge•8/14/24, 12:39 AM

CCrono I bought Ubisoft games on Epic, when they had the chain coupon thing that let yo...

Crono•8/14/24, 12:40 AM

The gold editions and stuff

j0rge•8/14/24, 12:40 AM

let's see if verge hearts me back

Amarielle•8/14/24, 12:40 AM

I want them to ignore now ;p

Crono•8/14/24, 12:40 AM

Up to 700 games on Epic & friends, the free stuff outnumbers my Steam library 3:1 now

AAru tbh I think Valve's window of opportunity to get SteamOS on other handhelds is s...

matt_schwartz•8/14/24, 12:40 AM

true. honestly I just don’t think they have the bandwidth to work on their in-house Linux stuff alongside a wider Linux release in a timely matter

j0rge•8/14/24, 12:41 AM

yeah they're just not built that way

Mmatt_schwartz true. honestly I just don’t think they have the bandwidth to work on their in-ho...

Aru•8/14/24, 12:41 AM

yep, I think Valve really messed up on execution, they gave Windows and other options too much breathing room

Amarielle•8/14/24, 12:41 AM

I dunno, the chief complaint every time is windows

Aru•8/14/24, 12:41 AM

Deck OLED was actually a mistake imo, they should've prioritized general SteamOS release before the OLED

AAmarielle I dunno, the chief complaint every time is windows

Aru•8/14/24, 12:42 AM

yet how many PC handhelds ship with linux now? 1

AAru yep, I think Valve really messed up on execution, they gave Windows and other op...

Crono•8/14/24, 12:42 AM

I don't think they did, Windows is still Windows. The silver bullet for SteamOS is gamescope. Maybe Microsoft will develop an equivalent, wouldn't hold my breath

Aru•8/14/24, 12:42 AM

did ya know that Lenovo actually approached Valve for to use SteamOS, but Valve said no?

Aru•8/14/24, 12:42 AM

guess why?

Aru•8/14/24, 12:42 AM

Deck OLED was taking up Valve's developer bandwidth

matt_schwartz•8/14/24, 12:42 AM

Gamescope vanilla support is rather garbage for these handhelds as well

j0rge•8/14/24, 12:43 AM

and also, everyone forgets how hard it is to make an OS.

matt_schwartz•8/14/24, 12:43 AM

there’s a reason we have to patch it to hell

j0rge•8/14/24, 12:43 AM

you have to hire teams of people for that

Aru•8/14/24, 12:43 AM

yeah, Valve prides itself on having a low employee count

Aru•8/14/24, 12:43 AM

but tbh I think it's hurting their overall ability to execute

Crono•8/14/24, 12:43 AM

I think that's the least of their issues perhaps; how many employees does System76 have?

Aru•8/14/24, 12:44 AM

like why can't they work on both a general SteamOS release alongside the Deck OLED? not enough headcount

Crono•8/14/24, 12:44 AM

While building a whole DE ecosystem

CCrono I think that's the least of their issues perhaps; how many employees does System...

Froggyman [R5 7600X RX9070XT]•8/14/24, 12:44 AM

Small floor

KKyle Gospo we are not responsible for data loss and you can expect any steam games on there...

Pez•8/14/24, 12:44 AM

you can make steam games launch like this but i absolutely am not handing out instructions to do so lmaoooooo

Froggyman [R5 7600X RX9070XT]•8/14/24, 12:44 AM

I saw their office once

Pez•8/14/24, 12:44 AM

even if you do get games booting off an NTFS disk it'll still just end up with dementia after all that effort

j0rge•8/14/24, 12:45 AM

yeah people are going to read that article and think they're getting some magical thing and it's like, if it was anywhere close to a thing you would have seen them hiring people from KDE, some kernel people, a bunch of internals people.

PPez even if you do get games booting off an NTFS disk it'll still just end up with d...

Kyle Gospo•8/14/24, 12:45 AM

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-know-dont-know-bird-clueless-gif-12587825

Tenor

j0rge•8/14/24, 12:45 AM

like, they wouldn't be able to magically make a general purpose distro without having teams like that.

If they’re supported the rog ally with custom fixes seems like they’d probably do device specific fi

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