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Aru
Android doesn't run Linux apps, that eliminated it for me as a contender
Android doesn
't run Linux apps
, that eliminated it for me as a contender
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B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:28 PM
Android is literally a mainstream linux distro
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:29 PM
it does run linux applications in a variety of ways
A
Aru
Android doesn't run Linux apps, that eliminated it for me as a contender
K
Kamquat
•
8/15/24, 12:29 PM
eh you
can
proot in termux
K
Kamquat
•
8/15/24, 12:29 PM
I did that back when I used samsung dex
K
Kamquat
eh you *can* proot in termux
A
Aru
OP
•
8/15/24, 12:29 PM
If it
's not supported by the OS vendor
, I don
't count it
K
Kamquat
•
8/15/24, 12:29 PM
to use xfce
+x11
+linux apps
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:29 PM
have you heard of the true scotsman
?
K
Kamquat
•
8/15/24, 12:29 PM
Samsung did support that for a bit
, but backtracked on it
A
Aru
OP
•
8/15/24, 12:29 PM
No everyday user is going to proot termux
K
Kamquat
•
8/15/24, 12:29 PM
(Linux on Dex
)
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:30 PM
no TRUE scotsman would be unaware they were using Linux while using it on their phone
K
Kamquat
(Linux on Dex)
A
Aru
OP
•
8/15/24, 12:30 PM
Yep
, I know about it
. Shame Google pressured Samsung into killing it
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:30 PM
google
's gonna bring their own desktop view
K
Kamquat
•
8/15/24, 12:31 PM
Eh
A
Aru
OP
•
8/15/24, 12:31 PM
But basically I don
't count Android since it doesn
't support Linux apps ootb
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:31 PM
implemented as part of Play Services like Android Auto is
K
Kamquat
•
8/15/24, 12:31 PM
its crap rn
K
Kamquat
•
8/15/24, 12:31 PM
I tried it
(you can enable it in developer settings
)
A
Aru
OP
•
8/15/24, 12:31 PM
Dex is better
K
Kamquat
•
8/15/24, 12:31 PM
Dex
/ReadyFor
/whatever that thing Honour uses are all more mature
A
Aru
But basically I don't count Android since it doesn't support Linux apps ootb
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:31 PM
yes
, like I said
, running the Linux kernel to execute ELF binaries doesn
't make it a true enough scotsman
K
Kamquat
•
8/15/24, 12:31 PM
Lenovo also has
'Productivity Mode
'
K
Kamquat
•
8/15/24, 12:32 PM
for some phones
/tablets
K
Kamquat
Immutable Live Image?
A
asen23
•
8/15/24, 12:33 PM
let new user try also you could create custom image easily too
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:33 PM
I think pretty much every live image is immutable
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:33 PM
I mean
, traditionally they have a read
-only root
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:33 PM
it should be easier to make a ublue live
K
Kamquat
Honestly the biggest issue at the high end for *that* is 'But we NEEED CUDAAAAAA...
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:36 PM
I think almost all cuda users are on linux these days
, right
? All the ones training models at least
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:36 PM
LLM software targets Linux first and windows sometimes never
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:37 PM
there are several markets where Linux dominates
. Like model production
, microelectronics
/factory dev
, web hosting
, etc
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:37 PM
gaming is a weird island far from those areas and it
's really excellent that it
's catching on there
B
bq
there are several markets where Linux dominates. Like model production, microele...
A
asen23
•
8/15/24, 12:43 PM
arent like 99
% server run on mostly linux lol
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:43 PM
yep
!
B
bq
I think almost all cuda users are on linux these days, right? All the ones train...
K
Kamquat
•
8/15/24, 12:43 PM
Not for 3D rendering necessarily no
. CUDA
+Iray is often used on Windows for that
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:43 PM
pixar
's whole pipeline is linux
K
Kamquat
•
8/15/24, 12:44 PM
Sure you can do it all in Linux
, but that basically means all blender all the time
.
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:48 PM
if valve were just boosting linux as hard as they can
, they
'd promote godot
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:48 PM
godot vs unity
/unreal is a big OS battlefront
K
Kamquat
•
8/15/24, 12:49 PM
Is it even a battle
? Pretty sure zero AAA studios are using godot
. Might be wrong
, but I
'd be shocked
.
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:50 PM
zero AAA titles use godot
.
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:50 PM
it
's a battle because more indies are in the last few years
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:50 PM
if big games started getting made with godot
, that would have a trickle
-down effect for native linux support for the titles
K
Kamquat
•
8/15/24, 12:52 PM
Ehh
.
.
. native Linux support is kind of dead
K
Kamquat
•
8/15/24, 12:52 PM
cause Proton is too good
K
Kamquat
•
8/15/24, 12:52 PM
so why bother
? Just do windows and make sure proton
(well
, steam deck
) works
.
K
Kamquat
•
8/15/24, 12:52 PM
(from the perspective of devs that is at least
)
K
Kamquat
Ehh... native Linux support is kind of dead
V
Valerie
•
8/15/24, 12:57 PM
I don
't think it is
, games are still getting Native Linux ports
.
V
Valerie
•
8/15/24, 12:57 PM
But it
's still comparatively small
.
V
Valerie
I don't think it is, games are still getting Native Linux ports.
K
Kamquat
•
8/15/24, 12:58 PM
Less than used to
K
Kamquat
•
8/15/24, 12:58 PM
and it was small even then
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