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Kamquat
OP
•
8/15/24, 12:23 PM
seems
.
.
. not needed
?
A
Aru
•
8/15/24, 12:23 PM
The installer itself does suck though
C
CSW1984
Hah I'm still fighting this. Between her temu addiction and having 10 different ...
K
Kamquat
OP
•
8/15/24, 12:23 PM
Oh ugh that
'd be awful
C
CSW1984
Hah I'm still fighting this. Between her temu addiction and having 10 different ...
A
Aru
•
8/15/24, 12:24 PM
Ultimatum
: Chromebook or no tech support from me
A
Aru
The installer itself does suck though
K
Kamquat
OP
•
8/15/24, 12:24 PM
Yeah Anaconda is pretty
A
Aru
•
8/15/24, 12:25 PM
As much as I
'm not a fan of ChromeOS
, it
's perfect for users that have a tendency to accidentally shoot themselves in the foot with Windows
.
K
Kamquat
OP
•
8/15/24, 12:25 PM
still a vast improvement over 30
+ 3
.5
" floppy disks back from when I was a teen installing Slackware on my 486 laptop tho
A
Aru
As much as I'm not a fan of ChromeOS, it's perfect for users that have a tendenc...
K
Kamquat
OP
•
8/15/24, 12:26 PM
I don
't mind it
, though if the US Gov
't does antitrust chop up Google it
'll be interesting to see what happens with ChromeOS
A
Aru
•
8/15/24, 12:27 PM
ChromeOS is the closest thing we have to a mainstream Linux distro
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:27 PM
what
? No
, Android
K
Kamquat
OP
•
8/15/24, 12:27 PM
Yes but I don
't know how much money Google is
directly
making from ChromeOS and Android
, I think most of the
'profit
' from those is more from them funneling people towards google services
/ads
A
Aru
•
8/15/24, 12:28 PM
? ChromeOS runs full Linux apps
, runs on the Linux kernel
, chromeOS is basically a heavily sandboxed Linux distro
.
A
Aru
? ChromeOS runs full Linux apps, runs on the Linux kernel, chromeOS is basically...
K
Kamquat
OP
•
8/15/24, 12:28 PM
he
's saying
'android is linux
'
A
Aru
•
8/15/24, 12:28 PM
Ahh gotcha
A
Aru
•
8/15/24, 12:28 PM
Android doesn
't run Linux apps
, that eliminated it for me as a contender
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:28 PM
Android is literally a mainstream linux distro
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:29 PM
it does run linux applications in a variety of ways
A
Aru
Android doesn't run Linux apps, that eliminated it for me as a contender
K
Kamquat
OP
•
8/15/24, 12:29 PM
eh you
can
proot in termux
K
Kamquat
OP
•
8/15/24, 12:29 PM
I did that back when I used samsung dex
K
Kamquat
eh you *can* proot in termux
A
Aru
•
8/15/24, 12:29 PM
If it
's not supported by the OS vendor
, I don
't count it
K
Kamquat
OP
•
8/15/24, 12:29 PM
to use xfce
+x11
+linux apps
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:29 PM
have you heard of the true scotsman
?
K
Kamquat
OP
•
8/15/24, 12:29 PM
Samsung did support that for a bit
, but backtracked on it
A
Aru
•
8/15/24, 12:29 PM
No everyday user is going to proot termux
K
Kamquat
OP
•
8/15/24, 12:29 PM
(Linux on Dex
)
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:30 PM
no TRUE scotsman would be unaware they were using Linux while using it on their phone
K
Kamquat
(Linux on Dex)
A
Aru
•
8/15/24, 12:30 PM
Yep
, I know about it
. Shame Google pressured Samsung into killing it
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:30 PM
google
's gonna bring their own desktop view
K
Kamquat
OP
•
8/15/24, 12:31 PM
Eh
A
Aru
•
8/15/24, 12:31 PM
But basically I don
't count Android since it doesn
't support Linux apps ootb
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:31 PM
implemented as part of Play Services like Android Auto is
K
Kamquat
OP
•
8/15/24, 12:31 PM
its crap rn
K
Kamquat
OP
•
8/15/24, 12:31 PM
I tried it
(you can enable it in developer settings
)
A
Aru
•
8/15/24, 12:31 PM
Dex is better
K
Kamquat
OP
•
8/15/24, 12:31 PM
Dex
/ReadyFor
/whatever that thing Honour uses are all more mature
A
Aru
But basically I don't count Android since it doesn't support Linux apps ootb
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:31 PM
yes
, like I said
, running the Linux kernel to execute ELF binaries doesn
't make it a true enough scotsman
K
Kamquat
OP
•
8/15/24, 12:31 PM
Lenovo also has
'Productivity Mode
'
K
Kamquat
OP
•
8/15/24, 12:32 PM
for some phones
/tablets
K
Kamquat
Immutable Live Image?
A
asen23
•
8/15/24, 12:33 PM
let new user try also you could create custom image easily too
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:33 PM
I think pretty much every live image is immutable
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:33 PM
I mean
, traditionally they have a read
-only root
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:33 PM
it should be easier to make a ublue live
K
Kamquat
Honestly the biggest issue at the high end for *that* is 'But we NEEED CUDAAAAAA...
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:36 PM
I think almost all cuda users are on linux these days
, right
? All the ones training models at least
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:36 PM
LLM software targets Linux first and windows sometimes never
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:37 PM
there are several markets where Linux dominates
. Like model production
, microelectronics
/factory dev
, web hosting
, etc
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:37 PM
gaming is a weird island far from those areas and it
's really excellent that it
's catching on there
B
bq
there are several markets where Linux dominates. Like model production, microele...
A
asen23
•
8/15/24, 12:43 PM
arent like 99
% server run on mostly linux lol
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:43 PM
yep
!
B
bq
I think almost all cuda users are on linux these days, right? All the ones train...
K
Kamquat
OP
•
8/15/24, 12:43 PM
Not for 3D rendering necessarily no
. CUDA
+Iray is often used on Windows for that
B
bq
•
8/15/24, 12:43 PM
pixar
's whole pipeline is linux
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