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RHINO #0669 Has Shipped!
RHINO #0669 Has Shipped!
RI stared at it too long and pulled the trigger, oops
RAnd the DCS rig kit it goes to
RGuess my nearly decade-long era of relying on fold-out tables and chairs is going to be behind me
RIs this just the plate or does it include other stuff. I’m wanting to use the plate to connect to some 4040 extruded aluminum
HAny owner of the DCS FC24 module able to shed some light to it's ffb support? Mainly curious for the sabre, mig15, f5 and f15c.
RJust the bracket. It connects to the seat frame they make
HI can trial the older FC stuff, I guess I'll do that first.
HI suppose the newer FC24 planes should have the same ffb support as their full fidelity counter parts, can anyone confirm?
RFor clarity, or at least my interpretation, the square frame that it's pictured with, it does not come with it. Despite being included in all the photos
RIf you want to buy a complete kit with that, get the Flight Sim Cockpit - DCS Edition. The $599 one. It's expensive but it has everything you need, including 3 different kind of universal adapter plates to mount other sticks/throttles. Except for the VPForce, they had to make a separate individual plate for that
RI tried to buy the parts individually to see if I could scrub some unneccessary stuff and save money (essentially instead of buying the cockpit kit, I buy the rudder kit, seat, frame, extentions etc and do it separately that way) but even without a right side mount, it still comes out more expensive than the big bulk cockpit kit.
RBetter to just roll with the $599 item and then tack on the VP adapter
HMaking your own rig from aluminium profiles can be a lot cheaper, but you’ll have to make a design of your own.
JYou can also just 1:1 rip existing aluminum profile design from places like Monster Tech or TrakRacer etc. Super easy by referencing their manuals. Even easier with a part list that gives dimensions.
Honestly the hard part is sourcing all the important parts like connectors etc.
Getting aluminum profiling in correct dimensions isn't hard, but figuring out the other stuff can be annoying if you are unfamiliar with it all. I still feel super lost trying to navigate the big supplier sites trying to find everything I'd need to DIY on my existing rig.
Honestly the hard part is sourcing all the important parts like connectors etc.
Getting aluminum profiling in correct dimensions isn't hard, but figuring out the other stuff can be annoying if you are unfamiliar with it all. I still feel super lost trying to navigate the big supplier sites trying to find everything I'd need to DIY on my existing rig.
AIf you can't find a suitable supplier who does uni connector bores (/can do them yourself), it's also an option to go with external corner brackets for everything instead.
Those are generally easier to find, and more flexible in slot dimension requirements etc.
Of course, like uni connectors, they have their own considerations.
The main thing is to find a suitable profile series, and to stick with that as much as possible.
(For example: 40-series metric, i-type slot-8).
Makes your life a lot easier.
Those are generally easier to find, and more flexible in slot dimension requirements etc.
Of course, like uni connectors, they have their own considerations.
The main thing is to find a suitable profile series, and to stick with that as much as possible.
(For example: 40-series metric, i-type slot-8).
Makes your life a lot easier.
RI built mine all from extruded aluminum 4040. It had been too bad to find components that work and match my 4040 aluminum is from the UK so I have to buy most everything online to be compatible. It’s really solid though.
RYeah, I just need the plate. I bought the one made by monster Tech, but I don’t like that. It only uses one side to secure the rhino.
JYeah there's various suppliers and most of the ones do cut stuff to your request including special things like threadings in various diameters, or to do cutouts for internal brackets (like what Monster Tech uses)
CDoes VP have software for bass shakers that could complement the base?
NNo. The way the motors generate haptic effects and the way a bass shaker work have almost zero in common. One is programmatically starting/stopping one or more periodic effects with a few frequency/intensity parameters... the other is essentially engineering a library of sound waves that will excite a speaker transducer.
CThanks!
NI’ll tell you though, that my vpforce powered collective hard mounted to my chair does a pretty damn good job. I haven’t bothered to reconnect my buttkicker 
RI think I said this in support the other day
RBut one of the coolest things I noticed with the VPF was that it creates its own haptic effects
RThe frequency that the motors can achieve is surprising. Like with engine vibration
RIts so fast but so small, I can't see it looking at the stick. But grab onto it, and I can really feel it shaking in my hand
RIt doesn't need some spinning unbalanced motor, or transducer. It creates vibration the good old fashioned way 
Rjust shaking the shit out of itself
NI was surprised when I started writing effects for TelemFFB at how well it can even handle multiple simultaneous effects. Rotor whirl + jet engine + cannons? No problem.
JIt's also what makes it seem like blackmagic, and why at least to me Rhino will always be king. The only thing that could be better is if Walmis makes a new and improved Rhino v2.0. Which is in no way necessary, but who knows what the future holds.
JRegardless, what has been cooked up by Walmis, and huge contributors from the community such as your self, is something truly special nowhere else can come close to touching.
Rwhat would make it better for me is if we got that MFG FFB kit
JAh, yeah that too for sure 100%
GMy Rhino arrived today. Getting it mounted in the pit tonight. Excited to try it. I’m do have transducers and use both DCRealistic and SimHaptic in my cockpit to get an amazing experience. Can’t wait to see how this Rhino base works and how it adds to the experience. And of course plan on converting my TPR pedals to FFB here shortly as well.
DPlease let us know how that TPR conversion goes for you. I have a set I might want to convert too some day.
AAnyone else mount their Rhino in a Next Level Racing pit? I am getting up there on the list and want to prepare
RIs there any potential issue with EMI if it’s placed next to a large transducer?
PI think you missed an opportunity here Walmis
Pthis is in the comments of HIP yt video for the moza base
AI loved when the claim was made that Moza was the first to enter the flight sim market for FFB.
ASome of the claimed features in the video are planned features, not features that the software Moza has provided can actually do right now.
AUnfortunately there is a pretty vast difference between reviewers like say Jabbers look at the moza, and Promoters like HIP.
VIs it really missed? It's not like the queue is drying up as it is currently
AWell yeah, honestly.
PAdertising is still good for business though
ADon't get me wrong I like walmis, and Rhino, I'm buying one for review, but a response could've helped at least educate the guy
AHe should've done a bit more research himself, but still.
AWe all get things wrong, but there is also a point where it becomes a tad silly
VIdk if it's just my mindset but I really don't really think every Youtuber and their grandmas should get stuff for review just because they have a YT channel with XY amount of subscribers.
Many times have I seen stuff from such Youtubers that's just plain wrong but because they don't know better, the audience they reach takes that at the face value and the circle of misinformation begins.
On the other hand, Rhino is in circulation for a while now. I firmly believe that 90% in the flightsim community have already heard about the Rhino from the owners and DIYers. Better to get a "review" from people actually owning it and using it rather than someone who's just gotten it an played with it for a bit without looking in too deep.
Many times have I seen stuff from such Youtubers that's just plain wrong but because they don't know better, the audience they reach takes that at the face value and the circle of misinformation begins.
On the other hand, Rhino is in circulation for a while now. I firmly believe that 90% in the flightsim community have already heard about the Rhino from the owners and DIYers. Better to get a "review" from people actually owning it and using it rather than someone who's just gotten it an played with it for a bit without looking in too deep.