Saw this in Matrix. How many of us use App images? I do for some things, but not many. https://githu

Saw this in Matrix. How many of us use App images? I do for some things, but not many. https://github.com/fedora-silverblue/issue-tracker/issues/589

GitHub

rpm-ostree-2024.7-1.fc40 breaks AppImage support for Silverblue 40 ...

Describe the bug rpm-ostree 2024.7-1.fc40 drops the fuse dependency leading to a removal of fuse in Silverblue 40. Changelog: - Require fuse3 as ostree now uses it Removed: fuse-2.9.9-21.fc40.x86_6...

Kyle Gospo•8/19/24, 5:36 PM

Well that's an easy fix on our end

Kyle Gospo•8/19/24, 5:36 PM

One PR to Main to make sure that package is included

NNoel Saw this in Matrix. How many of us use App images? I do for some things, but not...

Bigpod•8/19/24, 6:30 PM

honestly to me this is a nonissue, more dstros should jsut stop shiping that fuse 2.9.9 as it is depricated and its only appimage creator who doesnt want to move and insists that everyone should conform to him

tryhardsoccermomswag•8/19/24, 6:35 PM

bazzite users use appimages

tryhardsoccermomswag•8/19/24, 6:35 PM

but otherwise i agree

tryhardsoccermomswag•8/19/24, 6:35 PM

flatpak is the only universal linux graphical package option i care about

Kyle Gospo•8/19/24, 6:45 PM

https://github.com/ublue-os/main/pull/631

GitHub

fix: Include fuse package for AppImage support by KyleGospo · Pull ...

fedora-silverblue/issue-tracker#589

KKyle Gospo https://github.com/ublue-os/main/pull/631

NoelOP•8/19/24, 6:59 PM

to be clear, Fedora Upstream is thinking about potentially still keeping it.

NoelOP•8/19/24, 6:59 PM

they are just having the discussion.

NNoel to be clear, Fedora Upstream is thinking about potentially still keeping it.

Kyle Gospo•8/19/24, 6:59 PM

that one line just ensures we always have it

Kyle Gospo•8/19/24, 6:59 PM

so no big deal

RoyalOughtness•8/19/24, 8:07 PM

who are the current maintainers for ublue-os/config and ublue-os/ucore?

https://github.com/ublue-os/config/pull/297
https://github.com/ublue-os/config/pull/313
https://github.com/ublue-os/ucore/pull/187

Please review or decline

The first one has been waiting for some time

RoyalOughtness•8/19/24, 8:20 PM

thanks @Kyle Gospo

RoyalOughtness•8/19/24, 8:20 PM

just need another (for config)

KKyle Gospo https://github.com/ublue-os/main/pull/631

RoyalOughtness•8/19/24, 8:21 PM

ngl appimage support should be dropped eventually

RoyalOughtness•8/19/24, 8:22 PM

fuse2 is unmaintained and is yet another suid binary

RRoyalOughtness ngl appimage support should be dropped eventually

tryhardsoccermomswag•8/19/24, 8:29 PM

i don't think this will happen in the near future

Ttryhardsoccermomswag i don't think this will happen in the near future

RoyalOughtness•8/19/24, 8:29 PM

sadly

tryhardsoccermomswag•8/19/24, 8:30 PM

bazzite tries to reach parity with steamos and tons of applications are appimage only

tryhardsoccermomswag•8/19/24, 8:30 PM

hhd-ui is also an appimage and we rely on that

RoyalOughtness•8/19/24, 8:30 PM

but still it would behoove bazzite to start pushing the apps that are appimage-only to package in another format

RoyalOughtness•8/19/24, 8:30 PM

even if appimage deprecation is a year+ away

RRoyalOughtness but still it would behoove bazzite to start pushing the apps that are appimage-o...

Kyle Gospo•8/19/24, 8:30 PM

We support appimages because it's common on SteamOS

Kyle Gospo•8/19/24, 8:30 PM

we do not have the weight to fix that

RoyalOughtness•8/19/24, 8:30 PM

I see

RoyalOughtness•8/19/24, 8:31 PM

even still, it would be nice to eventually remove fuse from main

Kyle Gospo•8/19/24, 8:31 PM

Also, we have an added issue that the OpenRGB flatpak is unoffiical

tryhardsoccermomswag•8/19/24, 8:31 PM

the amount of people who use emudeck alone would be very upset

RoyalOughtness•8/19/24, 8:31 PM

and keep it in bazzite only

Kyle Gospo•8/19/24, 8:31 PM

and it displays a warning about missing udev rules every time it's launched

Kyle Gospo•8/19/24, 8:31 PM

when pressed, OpenRGB's devs told us it's not supported and to use the appimage

Kyle Gospo•8/19/24, 8:31 PM

so, that's gonna fuck over a lot of people too

Kyle Gospo•8/19/24, 8:31 PM

then you have companies like Wooting that only release their software as AppImage on linux

RoyalOughtness•8/19/24, 8:31 PM

yeah fair

Kyle Gospo•8/19/24, 8:31 PM

and you're stuck -- have to support it

RoyalOughtness•8/19/24, 8:31 PM

for bazzite it makes sense

tryhardsoccermomswag•8/19/24, 8:31 PM

so many modding tools too

tryhardsoccermomswag•8/19/24, 8:32 PM

we'll never escape it lmao

RoyalOughtness•8/19/24, 8:32 PM

but for main if Fedora drops appimage support i think ublue should as well (aside from bazzite)

RoyalOughtness•8/19/24, 8:32 PM

otherwise ublue would be encouraging the perpetuation of fuse2

RoyalOughtness•8/19/24, 8:33 PM

plus, users can always layer fuse2 back

Kyle Gospo•8/19/24, 8:33 PM

looks like the appimage dev's solution is to statically compile fuse2

RoyalOughtness•8/19/24, 8:33 PM

that's not really a solution lol

fiftydinar•8/19/24, 8:33 PM

AppImage is easier to make than flatpak, so I understand why some devs prefer it

RoyalOughtness•8/19/24, 8:33 PM

appimage would be okay if they just migrated to fuse3

RoyalOughtness•8/19/24, 8:33 PM

but even then it's yet another suid binary :/

dreamyuki•8/19/24, 8:33 PM

also Appimage is cool for single use apps like etcher

RoyalOughtness•8/19/24, 8:34 PM

appimages also encourage the pattern of "run this executable you downloaded via your browser"

RoyalOughtness•8/19/24, 8:35 PM

which goes against user security best practices

KKyle Gospo looks like the appimage dev's solution is to *statically compile fuse2*

Bigpod•8/19/24, 8:56 PM

wow probono finaly went away from the position of every distro should ship fuse2 becuase appimage uses it becuase there are some distros that dont have fuse 3

Saw this in Matrix. How many of us use App images? I do for some things, but not many. https://githu

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