VPforce Controls•17mo ago

For some reason, I had to check this box but only for the trim hat (Hat 1). The others worked fine b

For some reason, I had to check this box but only for the trim hat (Hat 1). The others worked fine by default!

SScavenger For some reason, I had to check this box but only for the trim hat (Hat 1). The ...

Prometheus [Prom]•8/27/24, 7:20 PM

I see number 7 is lit, I had that too, couldn’t figure out if it is feature or a bug.

ScavengerOP•8/27/24, 7:22 PM

No, that's intentional I believe - buttons 1 and 7 correspond to the resting positions of the flip-down trigger and pinky lever respectively. They're bindable buttons

SScavenger No, that's intentional I believe - buttons 1 and 7 correspond to the resting pos...

Prometheus [Prom]•8/27/24, 7:22 PM

thanks!

PPrometheus [Prom]thanks!

Prometheus [Prom]•8/27/24, 7:23 PM

post if your LUA sets up nicely, it never worked for me, you must have the ‘secret sauce’

ScavengerOP•8/27/24, 7:41 PM

The lua mostly works, but still not with the trim hat - I think it might be something to do with the fact that this diagram implies it's actually an 8-way hat

ScavengerOP•8/27/24, 7:46 PM

So here's the issue: I load up DCS and open the controls menu for the Mi-24P, which has my controls from the WinWing stick/base copied over to the WinWing stick/Rhino base. Most of the keybinds work as intended, e.g. the depress of the trim hat is written as JOY_BTN19 which corresponds correctly. However, the up/down/left/right of the trim hat are displayed as JOY_BTN_POV1_U, JOY_BTN_POV1_D, JOY_BTN_POV1_L, and JOY_BTN_POV1_R respectively.

ScavengerOP•8/27/24, 7:47 PM

The VPForce software has instead written these inputs to 45, 46, 47 and 48, and does not recognise the diagonal inputs as buttons.

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(41F) RAFAIR Dave H•8/27/24, 9:36 PM

@walmis here’s my settings

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(41F) RAFAIR Dave H•8/27/24, 9:39 PM

I had the master gain at 100% too

Naoki_NT3•8/29/24, 2:01 AM

What version is the latest Rhino firmware? Mine is v1.0.16. Is this old?

NNaoki_NT3 What version is the latest Rhino firmware? Mine is v1.0.16. Is this old?

Hiob•8/29/24, 5:49 AM

no, it‘s the latest. you‘re fine

HHiob no, it‘s the latest. you‘re fine

Naoki_NT3•8/29/24, 12:43 PM

Thanks. I am waiting for a new firmware. I already asked Walmis to include my grip support.

NNaoki_NT3 Thanks. I am waiting for a new firmware. I already asked Walmis to include my gr...

Hiob•8/29/24, 1:55 PM

Yeah, me too. For the support of custom fan control.

Subtile•8/29/24, 2:00 PM

Hey everybody,
Since weeks now, I don't understand why my Rhino self disconnects while I'm holding it about 3/5 seconds during a hard corner while in Dogfight on IL-2 or DCS.

Subtile•8/29/24, 2:01 PM

It's very disapointing.

kaltokri•8/29/24, 2:11 PM

What is your amps settings in the configurator?

SSubtile Hey everybody, Since weeks now, I don't understand why my Rhino self disconnects...

Col. Sanders•8/29/24, 2:14 PM

That is not normal. Most likely a setting issue. Also what do you have to do to recover the ffb?

SSubtile Hey everybody, Since weeks now, I don't understand why my Rhino self disconnects...

Hiob•8/29/24, 2:31 PM

Check the telemetry in the VP configurator while holding the G and see if the Amps exceed the set Amps, if so you need to reduce the spring force a bit. When you overpower the max strength of the motor (which is easy with the wrong settings) it will quit and need resetting.

Hiob•8/29/24, 2:32 PM

Basically you want settings, that do not exceed the maximal amps when you pull maximum deflection with a given spring setting.

Subtile•8/29/24, 3:03 PM

Subtile•8/29/24, 3:03 PM

my actual settings

SSubtile Click to see attachment

Hiob•8/29/24, 3:24 PM

Spring 100 is too much probably. I drive mine at 75 or something (at most). However the interesting part is the telemetry left of what is depicted in your screenshot.

SSubtile Click to see attachment

Col. Sanders•8/29/24, 3:24 PM

Wow that is some serious spring gain.

Bob Bushman•8/29/24, 3:26 PM

Spring is usually overriden by pot 1.
Its at 100 for me as well but the pot is at 40%

Bob Bushman•8/29/24, 3:26 PM

But that part is cropped out from the screenshot

SSubtile Click to see attachment

Hiob•8/29/24, 3:26 PM

Without seeing the actual telemetry it's all guesswork

Hiob•8/29/24, 3:28 PM

@Subtile The math goes master gain x spring gain x poti (if set to spring). The result shouldn't be any higher than 70-80%, otherwise you will reach max amps before you reach max deflection - and this is the cause of the tilt out.

Hiob•8/29/24, 3:31 PM

You could also increase the max motor current to 30A. Your motors will heat up slightly faster under max load though. -> earlier engagement of the fan.

amadeus•8/29/24, 4:08 PM

Spring gain is most likely not the reason for the disconnects (I assume by disconnects you mean it does that beep and it turns off the motors forcing you to cycle the emergency switch).

The problem is most likely one of the lpf settings in conjunction with other effects

Subtile•8/29/24, 4:19 PM

Ok, I'll try some parameters

amadeus•8/29/24, 4:26 PM

What are your effect settings? Perhaps a screenshot of those

amadeus•8/29/24, 4:27 PM

(Also do you have an extension?)

Subtile•8/29/24, 5:44 PM

Subtile•8/29/24, 5:45 PM

actually it still "tilts"

Aamadeus What are your effect settings? Perhaps a screenshot of those

Hiob•8/29/24, 5:45 PM

Effects gains are only relevant when the sim doesn’t provide own ffb or when made sticky. And they can‘t increase the max strength beyond the master settings.

Subtile•8/29/24, 5:45 PM

Hiob•8/29/24, 5:48 PM

Everything apart spring isn’t even activated.
I don’t see something suspicious at first glance tbh….

SSubtile Hey everybody, Since weeks now, I don't understand why my Rhino self disconnects...

walmis•8/29/24, 5:52 PM

Can you elaborate "self disconnect" does it give a long beep or there's a USB reconnection event?

walmis•8/29/24, 5:53 PM

Or short beeps ?

Subtile•8/29/24, 5:53 PM

same as the kill switch operation

walmis•8/29/24, 5:54 PM

So it gives short beeps and then reverts to normal operation?

walmis•8/29/24, 5:54 PM

Probably would be helpful to capture the log text in the Debug tab when that happens

Subtile•8/29/24, 5:57 PM

I'm catching some logs right now with a try in IL-2GB

Subtile•8/29/24, 5:57 PM

to send here

Hiob•8/29/24, 6:09 PM

Maybe a loose connection at the power switch?

Subtile•8/29/24, 6:12 PM

I'll try tomorrow then send you logs here

HHiob Effects gains are only relevant when the sim doesn’t provide own ffb or when mad...

amadeus•8/29/24, 6:31 PM

Yes but depending the game, maybe he cranked friction up which is notoriously unstable and games generally won’t override it

SScavenger The lua mostly works, but still not with the trim hat - I think it might be some...

Prometheus [Prom]•8/29/24, 8:18 PM

usually diagonals are actually two switches combined and require the firmware to note that two switches are depressed e.g N & W for the NW diagonal. Perhaps that routine is missing in the vpforce firmware?

ScavengerOP•8/29/24, 8:33 PM

ScavengerOP•8/29/24, 8:33 PM

Anyone know why my master gain, periodic effects etc might be repeatedly resetting themselves to 0%?

For some reason, I had to check this box but only for the trim hat (Hat 1). The others worked fine b

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