I have a separate input (trim wheel) for trim in IL-2 GB & I get the same thing with the bf109 full

I have a separate input (trim wheel) for trim in IL-2 GB & I get the same thing with the bf109 full trim & still it pitches up. I think it's just the way the fm & il2 are with ffb maybe?

PPiNKSH!T I have a separate input (trim wheel) for trim in IL-2 GB & I get the same thing ...

Col. Sanders•9/11/24, 5:37 AM

Hmm ya idk I have mine set to a hat switch and primarily fly 109s and never have had issues with trim and my rhino.

CCol. Sanders Hmm ya idk I have mine set to a hat switch and primarily fly 109s and never have...

PiNKSH!TOP•9/11/24, 5:41 AM

I might try changing from the axis to hat see if that helps.

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FFlatSpin can you share the link for the rudder ffb kit? I can't find it.

Piola•9/11/24, 6:38 AM

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScJy9f571afga-yYYOE5eqiEacWpqE3UigkC1hfQy6szQnN3g/viewform

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Enter your details here, so you can enter the queue for the VPforce MFG FFB Kit.
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The kit contains:
86BLF03 or 86BLF04 FFB motor
Large gear + 14T motor pulley
Belt HTD5M 400
Motor mount + fasteners
Assembled wiring
Toe brake connectors to VPforce board
Power supply - 19V 9.5A 18...

PPiNKSH!T I have a separate input (trim wheel) for trim in IL-2 GB & I get the same thing ...

hexpod•9/11/24, 8:22 AM

It’s seems to be the specificity of the Messerschmitt. It’s not a bug it’s a feature so to speak

DDracks Hello 👋, I don't know if I understood your question correctly, but here's my a...

PlaguedRoo•9/11/24, 12:14 PM

Are you using a throw limiter adapter on your setup?

PPlaguedRoo Are you using a throw limiter adapter on your setup?

Dracks•9/11/24, 1:18 PM

Nop ! I use only the settings in the "effects" tab of TelemFFB: Endstop/axis scaling/etc. Not a physical one

Dracks•9/11/24, 1:19 PM

For now, I have a extension of 10cm/my virpil Alpha and the VP Force base

Hhexpod It’s seems to be the specificity of the Messerschmitt. It’s not a bug it’s a fea...

Col. Sanders•9/11/24, 2:30 PM

This is not true. You should be able to trim the stabilizer to get level flight. There might be some very specific power setting, altitude and wind that it is unable to trim properly, but that is not the inherent design. I have been flying all variants of the 109 a couple times a week for the last 9 months and have not had an issue getting trimmed level flight.

PPiola @walmis sry for the ping, preorders for the MFG rudders FFB kit opened months ag...

Ice•9/11/24, 3:17 PM

Check the knowledge base for the FFB mod for the MFGs made by Hiob. I did it to my pedals and it’s incredible.

CCol. Sanders This is not true. You should be able to trim the stabilizer to get level flight...

hexpod•9/11/24, 7:12 PM

In Dcs it’s a documented feature with a lot of discussion about the phenomenon that’s why I assumed it’s similar in Il2.

Please try it again: increase the airspeed up to 550 km/h with stabilizer setting 100% positive. If you take the hand off the stick you should see the nose going up.

hexpod•9/11/24, 7:13 PM

Col. Sanders•9/11/24, 7:28 PM

I will give it a shot and see.

goobernoodles•9/12/24, 12:31 AM

unboxed my new rhino a little while ago - should it have moved/centered once you twist the red power... button thing to the right to release it? I did that with the software running and it seemed like the power might have been having issues.

goobernoodles•9/12/24, 12:33 AM

goobernoodles•9/12/24, 12:34 AM

...doesn't seem normal to me. if someone would confirm, i'd appreciate it

goobernoodles•9/12/24, 12:45 AM

apologies for the hobbit feet

Ggoobernoodles unboxed my new rhino a little while ago - should it have moved/centered once you...

Number481•9/12/24, 1:14 AM

silly question... have you tried pulling and re-plugging the USB after powering on the Rhino? I sometimes see odd behavior with Configurator if I power cycle the device while its running (but I am running 3 devices so its a bit different situation).

Other than that, a common issue is overloaded USB hubs. Try direct attach to PC if you can (if it isn't already).

Do you still feel the cogging in the axis when the power is on or is it smooth?

Also, even if it were properly connecting, with the profile you have set in your video (with master gain at 0), it wouldn't center the stick.

NNumber481 silly question... have you tried pulling and re-plugging the USB after powering ...

goobernoodles•9/12/24, 1:26 AM

i'll give that a shot - it is plugged into a big usb hub with like 8-9 other devices. i'm not really sure what cogging feels like, it's relatively smooth, but i feel some... uhh lumpiness, for lack of a better term? it's nothing like hitting an afterburner detent or anything

goobernoodles•9/12/24, 1:34 AM

direct connected the usb cable to the motherboard/replaced cable while the power was connected. also, the power adapter is going directly into the wall

Number481•9/12/24, 1:49 AM

Yikes…that sounds like either the internal connections to the stop switch are loose or maybe a faulty PS. (Those are my wild guesses). I’ll tag @walmis for you to make sure he sees it.

walmis•9/12/24, 6:04 AM

Yeah, something's fishy here. It tested fine before shipping, so it might be a PSU or an undetected wiring issue. DMd.

kaltokri•9/12/24, 5:37 PM

I want to configure my new MFG Rhino pedals.
Must/Should I rename the "joystick" and change the ID?
How to avoid conflicts with the Rhino base?
Is there a tutorial on how to configure FFB pedals?

Kkaltokri I want to configure my new MFG Rhino pedals. Must/Should I rename the "joystick"...

Hiob•9/12/24, 6:02 PM

Hey, yeah, you need to deactivate one axis in the VP config and give it a different ID and name it Pedals. It is all pretty straight forward.

Hiob•9/12/24, 6:03 PM

There is some tips on setting them up in the knowledge base thread.

Hiob•9/12/24, 6:04 PM

Most important thing is probably that you make sure that you don’t reach max motor current before the stops. Otherwise it is easy to overpower and tilt the motor by strength of your legs.

Hiob•9/12/24, 6:05 PM

In general, don’t overdo it with the spring gain. Keep it at 50% and dial in your other settings. When you are all set, you can increase it slowly to your taste, but make sure you stay below max current at max deflection.

buzzbomb•9/12/24, 6:45 PM

Woohoo, invoice just paid...now we wait

j9murphy•9/12/24, 7:12 PM

mine shipped this morning! so much learning to do.... lol

Jj9murphy mine shipped this morning! so much learning to do.... lol

Hiob•9/12/24, 7:37 PM

Yeah, setting up the software and tuning in all parameters can be a bit overwhelming in the beginning. But once it clicks, the software (including TelemFFB) is pure gold.

HHiob Yeah, setting up the software and tuning in all parameters can be a bit overwhel...

buzzbomb•9/12/24, 7:46 PM

My prior career was an avionics guy in the military, and now Im a software guy as well as a pilot (just for fun). I enjoy tuning these types of things as long as its not an every day thing

Henning Piez•9/13/24, 7:45 AM

Has someone the data of the 86BLF04 x1 Motor Kit? What is the Max Motorpower? What Amp does the Powersupply need?

HHenning Piez Has someone the data of the 86BLF04 x1 Motor Kit? What is the Max Motorpower? Wh...

Hiob•9/13/24, 8:22 AM

Rated torque 1.4 NM peak torque 4.2NM (rated amps 14, peak 38)

Hiob•9/13/24, 8:23 AM

https://www.act-motor.com/brushless-dc-motor-86blf-product/

https://www.act-motor.com/

Brushless DC Motor 86BLF

VPforceBot•9/13/24, 8:31 AM

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RHINO #0689 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•9/13/24, 8:31 AM

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Henning Piez•9/13/24, 9:00 AM

What Kind of Powersupply is the best Choice? I think Notebook Powerbricks are to Weak.... So a bigger Meanwell is needed? I only have 48V Power Supply here that we need for our Motion Platforms....

Henning Piez•9/13/24, 9:01 AM

For Rudder and Pitch this one?

Henning Piez•9/13/24, 9:01 AM

https://de.wiautomation.com/mean-well/power-supply/TDR96024?gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAC2XDKCgePrnHACw3m00BhFMpO7kO&gclid=CjwKCAjwxY-3BhAuEiwAu7Y6s_xn6RCx059WC3T-YDePp4xdCLEv3oTiNzSFsKPiwtCg5aBpLwYWahoC0A8QAvD_BwE

TDR-960-24 Mean Well

DIN Rail Power Supply, 24V, 40A, 960W, Adjustable

Kite•9/13/24, 9:12 AM

Mean Well is a very good brand. If that is the required voltage and power, it will do the job.

HHenning Piez What Kind of Powersupply is the best Choice? I think Notebook Powerbricks are to...

walmis•9/13/24, 9:12 AM

Meanwell LRS-350-24 is a very good deal

HHenning Piez What Kind of Powersupply is the best Choice? I think Notebook Powerbricks are to...

Hiob•9/13/24, 9:17 AM

Keep in mind, that the amps specs for the motor are not equivalent with the amps drawn from the PSU. Those amps are only applied momentarily per coil by the motor controller. So a 40A PSU is a bit overkill, even for the big motors. I don't what the maximum amps need to be, but I would estimate a third at most.

walmis•9/13/24, 9:18 AM

A single motor draws about 150-160W at max current

walmis•9/13/24, 9:19 AM

and follows the P=I^2*R law, so at half the torque it uses only 1/4th the power

VPforceBot•9/13/24, 9:21 AM

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RHINO #0690 Has Shipped!

Wwalmis A single motor draws about 150-160W at max current

Hiob•9/13/24, 9:37 AM

Is that for the 57 or 86 motors?

walmis•9/13/24, 9:40 AM

both are roughly the same

I have a separate input (trim wheel) for trim in IL-2 GB & I get the same thing with the bf109 full

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