mine shipped this morning! so much learning to do.... lol
mine shipped this morning! so much learning to do.... lol
HYeah, setting up the software and tuning in all parameters can be a bit overwhelming in the beginning. But once it clicks, the software (including TelemFFB) is pure gold.
BMy prior career was an avionics guy in the military, and now Im a software guy as well as a pilot (just for fun). I enjoy tuning these types of things as long as its not an every day thing
HHas someone the data of the 86BLF04 x1 Motor Kit? What is the Max Motorpower? What Amp does the Powersupply need?
HRated torque 1.4 NM peak torque 4.2NM (rated amps 14, peak 38)
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RHINO #0688 Has Shipped!HWhat Kind of Powersupply is the best Choice? I think Notebook Powerbricks are to Weak.... So a bigger Meanwell is needed? I only have 48V Power Supply here that we need for our Motion Platforms....
HFor Rudder and Pitch this one?
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KMean Well is a very good brand. If that is the required voltage and power, it will do the job.
WMeanwell LRS-350-24 is a very good deal
HKeep in mind, that the amps specs for the motor are not equivalent with the amps drawn from the PSU. Those amps are only applied momentarily per coil by the motor controller. So a 40A PSU is a bit overkill, even for the big motors. I don't what the maximum amps need to be, but I would estimate a third at most.
WA single motor draws about 150-160W at max current
Wand follows the P=I^2*R law, so at half the torque it uses only 1/4th the power
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HIs that for the 57 or 86 motors?
Wboth are roughly the same
W86 have more Nm/A
HNice, I have that "tiny" PS here from my old Dyadic Actuators 
Will test with them but replace them as the internal fan is annoying.
Will test with them but replace them as the internal fan is annoying.HAh, yeah - I see from the spec sheet. How would the voltage effect these? The big motor could in theory run on 48V. Just go faster? Less waste heat?
HI get that your logic board only support 24V, right?
HI started by using the old PSU from a 3D-printer. It had a fan that would instantly respond to any change in load. Pulling more G = more fan noise. Quite irritating. I then got the Meanwell 350/24 - it is dead silent since then.
WThe voltage rating is KV in essence i.e. how fast it spins per volt, the less KV the more torque per amp. The 86BLF is rated 3000RPM @ 48V for example.
The voltage, at standstill @ max torque, in the windings is something like 3V. So the 48V etc rating is useless if motor is not used for spinning applications.
The voltage, at standstill @ max torque, in the windings is something like 3V. So the 48V etc rating is useless if motor is not used for spinning applications.
CDoes the Rhino work in old space combat games such as Descent Freespace 1 and 2 that had force feedback support? I know they were just simple haptic effects such as when firing guns, missiles, or applying after burner, but just curious. Thanks.
Awith anything that old it's a big maybe, but Rhino does support directx ffb
Jdoes the rhino ship with a power supply or I need to supply my own? I have a meanwell UHP 1000w 24V PS that I could use, overkill I know, but silent and I could run both the pedals, the ffb base, and some other stuff off of a single supply I guess.
Jmax output is 42A on the DC side
TYes a power supply is included with the production rhinos
HYou can use that, even though the Rhino comes with one.
VDoes anyone know where I can get a 17° throw limiter?
CMake one or buy one from. Walmis.
Jthat question (throw limiter) opens up some questions for me that I'e been wanting to ask... Let's suppose (for discussion) that I'm trying to replicate the throw of an f18 stick. I think I want to replicate the angular distances that the real f18 stick covers not necessarily replicate the angle that it travels. This is because distance traveled will vary based on the length of the stick to cover the angle. My theory is therefore that the angular distance is more appropriate to replicate than the angle. Using a little math based on real f18 stick specs and the actual length of my own stick I can then replicate the actual throw distance in my simpit by using the appropriate angle throw limiters. Is this the right approach?
Jso back to the f18 example, if the actual aircraft has 3" of travel in each roll direction and my stick is 18" from the pivot to the trigger, then using theta = arc length / radius gives me theta = 3 / 18 (*180/pi to go from radians to degrees) I get 9.5 degrees in each direction as the appropriate roll throw.
BYour approach is the most practical and would be the one i would use based on those constraints (length of stick vs real length of stick). Just be aware that there will still be differences as it ultimately comes down to rotational precision at the gimble. so if your stick has less angular displacement for the same linear throw you will have less precision at the gimble aka it will be more sensitive. and vice versa if you have a greater angular displacement
Bbit it all is a compromise unless you replicate all the dimensions
J@buzzbomb I think part of what you are saying is that if i limit the travel of the stick too much I lose a lot of resolution in the stick position sensor?
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Bi havent finished my coffee so my s'planing skills arent awake yet 
Jtypically that problem would be more likely to occur the longer the stick is... I think mine will be mounted without any extension, so unless the travel of the actual stick is really small (like the f16 is) I should be ok? My guess is that you want to use at least half of the available rhino throw, but I'm open for other opinions on that.
Bit really depends on the geometry and the aircraft. The F16 is an outlier as its a force sensing stick and displacement doesnt really play into the input to the FLCS. Its just there for the pilot's 'feel'
Jagreed, probably bad example in this case. I think the question is how much can you limit the throw of the rhino for a particular aircraft until you lose so much sensor resolution that you've made the aircraft hard to control and/or begin to lose the "feel" of the aircraft
Bthat is likely a personal preference and not really an objective one
Jyeah to make it objective I would have to have experience in the real aircraft, but no matter how often i ask that, the answer is always no! lol
Bim sure there is an objective limit to the rotational sensitivy of the sensor but i cant tell you if you will hate the fell before you reach that limit or not
Bi plan on doing a bunch of GA stuff at first, at least i have some practical experience there
Bunfortunately most of the RW aircraft i have flown regularly with a stick have non-standard setups. The stick is geometry is essentially the same as a yoke. But The Rv-12, and 7 are normal but also really light on the controls. They will be a good comparison test in terms of angular sensitivity
RI started with 11 degree throw limiter for helos and now I’m running a 10-8 throw limiter for helos. Didn’t need as much side to side.
DWith what length of stick?