I'm convinced there is something wrong with my x axis motor or it's sensor or maybe it's my settings

I'm convinced there is something wrong with my x axis motor or it's sensor or maybe it's my settings but it is almost constantly cutting out with telemffb effects & even without that running when flying in IL2. Any ideas on how I can test this? Happy to post my settings if someone would be willing to check them out & test them. Any help would be great thanks.

PPiNKSH!T I'm convinced there is something wrong with my x axis motor or it's sensor or ma...

Number481•10/3/24, 1:13 PM

are you saying that, without TelemFFB running, even the spring effect from IL2 is cutting in and out on the x axis?

NNumber481 are you saying that, without TelemFFB running, even the spring effect from IL2 i...

PiNKSH!TOP•10/3/24, 1:16 PM

without telemffb running the native ffb effects from IL2 will cause the x axis to do it's 'safety-cut-out'. It happens the worse in DCS with telemffb & heli effects like ETL VRS etc. it's never the y axis only the x axis.

PPiNKSH!T without telemffb running the native ffb effects from IL2 will cause the x axis t...

Number481•10/3/24, 1:21 PM

I see. I thought you meant it was cutting in and out like stopping/starting.

If the axis is going into failsafe cutout, there's likely something in your settings that is leading to the instability. For me, this usually happens if I get too aggressive with combinations of damper/friction/inertia. Could also be something in your "expert settings".

Post your configurator settings, both the "settings" and "effects" tabs. Maybe something will jump out or maybe walmis will have a suggestion.

PiNKSH!TOP•10/3/24, 1:22 PM

NNumber481 I see. I thought you meant it was cutting in and out like stopping/starting. I...

PiNKSH!TOP•10/3/24, 1:22 PM

my settings

PPiNKSH!T my settings

Number481•10/3/24, 1:35 PM

your damper/friction/inertia sliders and their associated effect tab settings look reasonable to me. Your expert setting LPF values look a bit off from the defaults though. I don't really know how to use these values to affect a certain change, but I do know that they can have a big impact on what a "good" setting would be for the sliders/effects.

I'm guessing there's a reason for your current values, but you might try loading the values from the default config and see if things improve. Otherwise I could only suggest disabling/reducing one or more of damper/friction/inertia and seeing what happens.

The values from the default profile:

NNumber481 your damper/friction/inertia sliders and their associated effect tab settings lo...

PiNKSH!TOP•10/3/24, 1:52 PM

I think these were lowered on advice from walmis when I originally had x axis issues. I'll have a play with them tomorrow when I'm on again.

Bozo VFA-86•10/3/24, 2:29 PM

my F4 roll axis has gotten very light without me making any changes. The roll axis issue is inconsistent, sometimes feeling normal...it may be a single player vs multi-player issue but I'm not certain yet.

tanr•10/3/24, 9:19 PM

Is it possible to map other joystick encoders or pots, or even just keyboard shortcuts, to change some of the configurator gains like "Pot#1 Function" does? It would make tweaking my configs so much easier if I could just turn knobs to change the configurator Master, Periodic Effects, Spring, Damping, and Friction gains while feeling the changes on the fly.

Ttanr Is it possible to map other joystick encoders or pots, or even just keyboard sho...

buzzbomb•10/3/24, 11:53 PM

i believe the passthrough option mentioned in the manual will do that

Bbuzzbomb i believe the passthrough option mentioned in the manual will do that

tanr•10/4/24, 12:15 AM

I don't see a passthrough option mentioned in the user guide. Is there a different place I should be looking?

buzzbomb•10/4/24, 12:58 AM

lemme look, i may have the nomenclature wrong

Ttanr I don't see a passthrough option mentioned in the user guide. Is there a differ...

buzzbomb•10/4/24, 1:00 AM

3.3 Rhino loopback. But it appears to only work with buttons

buzzbomb•10/4/24, 1:00 AM

but it does replace the buttons on the grip ...nevermind...probably wont work for your needs

tanr•10/4/24, 1:52 AM

Ah well, will keep going the way I have been.

PPiNKSH!T I think these were lowered on advice from walmis when I originally had x axis is...

Reed•10/4/24, 2:12 AM

I have similar issues with x axis and had to tweak expert settings. I also use a longer than usual extension which was causing some issues.

PiNKSH!TOP•10/4/24, 5:02 AM

what did you tweak them to?

Nemisis Wolf•10/4/24, 3:16 PM

Hi guys New owner and I have a couple of questions! I have read the entire manual and understand the majority of the settings but obviously still to grab the practical experience with what each setting actually does. But I am having issues with the FFB telemetry software! It states that adjusting the settings in this can be done "on the fly" and makes an instant change but every time I make a change in the telemetry software to any setting the configurator cuts the main gain to zero giving me no effects!

I can quickly go in set it back to higher setting then apply/save to the base and all is good and it will have adjusted the setting I touched in the FFB Telemetry software, but I can't make any changes without the main gain in the configurator dropping to zero and the base losing all effects?? Any ideas??

Also the spring seems to be a big setting with regards to feedback. Took me a while to figure out why I had Zero trim in any aircraft due to having the spring gain to zero. What would any of you reccommend for the "normal" gain setting for the spring.

Sorry but one more. The F-14 seems to be giving me all the various feedback except spring even though it is set correctly and applied and stored to the base but i get zero trim effect in the F-14 and it's feels exactly the same as when I first went flying without the spring setting off, but it is definitely on and I get the feedback for the other effects but nothing from from the flight controls?

Much thanks in advance for any help!

f14billy•10/4/24, 3:18 PM

I have the master gain at 100, spring setting at 70, also check the knob in your rhino next to the red emergency stop. In mine it's set to spring gain and if you have it turned all the way down it doesn't matter what setting you put in the configurator it will be zero.

NNemisis Wolf Hi guys New owner and I have a couple of questions! I have read the entire manua...

LeLv30_Superbus•10/4/24, 3:34 PM

Screenshots of your configurator pages would help us get started please

LeLv30_Superbus•10/4/24, 3:35 PM

My "normal" spring setting is 100%

Nemisis Wolf•10/4/24, 3:57 PM

Spring seems to be working now after a shut down reset but but trim is not responding all the time in the F-14, controls are set and are receiving commands for trim all ok but trim only moving the stick "sometimes"

Biggest issue is the Congifurator setting Gain to zero everytime i make a telemetry adjustment More annoying than anything.

LeLv30_Superbus•10/4/24, 4:05 PM

Not seeing anything suspicious there. @Number481 can TelemFFB override Master gain slider too?

LeLv30_Superbus•10/4/24, 4:06 PM

Have you connected something to pot_2 connector?

NNemisis Wolf Spring seems to be working now after a shut down reset but but trim is not respo...

TheAmazinGreat•10/4/24, 5:57 PM

Show effects tab

LLeLv30_Superbus Not seeing anything suspicious there. @Number481 can TelemFFB override Master ga...

Nemisis Wolf•10/4/24, 6:00 PM

No nothing added!

PPiNKSH!T what did you tweak them to?

Reed•10/4/24, 6:59 PM

I’m oot. I’ll send pic Monday

Number481•10/4/24, 8:01 PM

@Fourgrinder @Nemisis Wolf
Any time you make a change in TelemFFB, the entire config is reapplied. If you are using the Override Configurator SlidersOverride Configurator Sliders feature, whatever you have configured will get pushed to the device again. If you have master gain enabled and set to zero in the overrides, It thinks you want master gain at zero.

Nemisis Wolf•10/4/24, 8:20 PM

It looks like that it is not checked off in the settings? or am i looking in the wrong area?

NNemisis Wolf It looks like that it is not checked off in the settings? or am i looking in the...

Number481•10/4/24, 8:37 PM

I can't tell what context you are in.. sim? class? model? You can also set/see it if you are loaded into an aircraft from the real-time settings page

NNumber481 I can't tell what context you are in.. sim? class? model? You can also set/se...

Nemisis Wolf•10/4/24, 9:29 PM

Hi none of the settings for DCS have that override configurator slider active! I only fly DCS and Jet's props and Helicopters and all specific aircraft have that setting unchecked. I haven't even been in this section to alter anything since I received the Rhino. the only setting i have adjusted are the main sliders in the configurator and the main effects panel in the FFB telemetry.

Trim seems to be an issue in all the jets I've tried so far with the stick only reacting to trim commands it seems "whenever it wants to" and not all the time! Maybe I need to increase/decrease a setting.

Hate sounding like a complete noob as I'm usually good at figuring this sort of thing out myself but I'm just scratching my head when I look at all the adjustments re read the manual and still can't figure out what's causing these 2 main issues.

lots of adjustments required in the standard DCS setups from what I can see with many settings just feeling way out of whack, but I can deal with that it's DCS and anyone that's sat and mapped out keybinds in DCS for 20 modules isn't really going to mind going and mapping out the effects for each of those modules. But getting that Master Gain reset every time I adjust one thing and have to reset it to feel if my adjustment was what I wanted is a real pain. Got to be one overide setting as you say but I haven't created any personalised Config files other than adjusting the sliders on the FFB telemetry effect page.

Number481•10/4/24, 9:45 PM

Use the help menu in TelemFFB to create a support bundle and post it here or DM it to me. I believe you about the setting not being enabled, but unless I misunderstood the symptom of the Configurator sliders resetting everytime you change a setting in TelemFFB, that is the only feature in TelemFFB that could/would do that.

The support bundle will include your system settings, user config and recent logs.

Reed•10/4/24, 10:08 PM

What yall printing your limiters in?

NNumber481 Use the help menu in TelemFFB to create a support bundle and post it here or DM ...

Nemisis Wolf•10/4/24, 11:48 PM

Seems I fixed the issue hopefully. I reset the configurator to factory settings and the calibrated and went from there. Changing settings in FFB telem no longer cuts the Master Gain

Will keep you informed.

Nemisis Wolf•10/4/24, 11:48 PM

Not sure on the Trim yet though

Bird*dog•10/5/24, 1:14 AM

Would it be possible to get the .stl file for the VKB adapter nut? Mine just broke (has worked well since I received it in January)

Bird*dog•10/5/24, 1:18 AM

Nevermind found it! https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1198547200058347670/1252245760293208115

102nd-YU-devill•10/5/24, 6:32 AM

Hi all, my rhino developed a "shimmer" or a "purr" (very low amplitude, high-frequency vibration) which is noticeable when the stick is moving, and goes away when the stick is kept in position. Is this a sign I need to re-tighten the belts? Or is it something else?

BBozo VFA-86 my F4 roll axis has gotten very light without me making any changes. The roll ax...

Kowalsky•10/5/24, 9:29 AM

Same for me, DCS restart helps but it's weird when it happens

RReed What yall printing your limiters in?

Hiob•10/5/24, 9:32 AM

I would recommend PETG for the throw limiter. PLA is to hard and PETG has a slight elastic property that makes it more pleasant for this application.

RReed What yall printing your limiters in?

TheAmazinGreat•10/5/24, 12:32 PM

PLA+ should be totally fine for this application

Bob Bushman•10/5/24, 12:32 PM

And I found petg very easy to print, just needed higher temps. Even less shrinkage and creep as well, and here regular pla and petg costs exactly the same.

Bob Bushman•10/5/24, 12:33 PM

No enclosure or such needed as for ABS.

BBob Bushman And I found petg very easy to print, just needed higher temps. Even less shrinka...

TheAmazinGreat•10/5/24, 1:01 PM

PETG always gave me trouble so I tend to avoid it. What are you doing for bed adhesion to make it easy?

Bob Bushman•10/5/24, 1:04 PM

I just cranked bed temp on my ender 3 til it stuck.
Going a few degrees below material glass point can be a good start point, think i was somewhere about 80-90c.
I do also have a glass panel on my bed so I peobably loose a fair few degrees between the surface and the bed heater/sensor as well.

BBob Bushman I just cranked bed temp on my ender 3 til it stuck. Going a few degrees below ma...

TheAmazinGreat•10/5/24, 1:15 PM

I’ll give it a try, I have the same setup. Are you printing directly on the glass? Any glue stick?

TTheAmazinGreat I’ll give it a try, I have the same setup. Are you printing directly on the glas...

Bob Bushman•10/5/24, 1:16 PM

Direct on the glass, no glue, hairspray or anything. At least not in the end.

102nd-YU-devill•10/5/24, 1:41 PM

I gave 300 bucks for a piece of shit

102nd-YU-devill•10/5/24, 1:41 PM

didnt last 1 month

NNumber481 Use the help menu in TelemFFB to create a support bundle and post it here or DM ...

Nemisis Wolf•10/5/24, 2:01 PM

The Configurator being reset to factory setting has indeed fixed all my issues I was having and brought all my aircraft to life. So it seems a bad setting in the configurator was the issue, Thanks to you and others for your help!

I'm convinced there is something wrong with my x axis motor or it's sensor or maybe it's my settings

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