merged🎉 the reason its so jank is that the API was originally built for use in FNA/MojoShader exclu

merged

the reason its so jank is that the API was originally built for use in FNA/MojoShader exclusively, and it just so happens that people like me picked it up and started improving upon it for use elsewhere

Lyris the KitoriOP•10/7/24, 9:10 PM

it wasnt even in the main sdl org originally

Lyris the KitoriOP•10/7/24, 9:11 PM

just a personal repo of flibitjibibo

Lyris the KitoriOP•10/7/24, 9:11 PM

Perksey•10/7/24, 9:25 PM

yeah the GPU API was literally just the FNA internal abstraction in the end

Perksey•10/7/24, 9:26 PM

it was similar enough to what icculus was designing and sped the process along

Rahkiin•10/7/24, 9:53 PM

They built the thing in what… 3 months?

LLyris the Kitori merged🎉 the reason its so jank is that the API was originally built for use in ...

Aqua•10/7/24, 10:09 PM

ohhh I see

LLyris the Kitori merged🎉 the reason its so jank is that the API was originally built for use in ...

Aqua•10/7/24, 11:33 PM

back on my pc so got a chance to look, yeah this is so much better

PPerksey I mean put it this way, Minecraft is the project notch used to _learn_ OpenGL

DragonsScales•10/8/24, 4:19 AM

wait what

TechPizza•10/8/24, 9:14 AM

notch seemingly was learning java too, spwaning particles in beta is a big string switch :disintegrate:

AAqua i was actually looking into maybe using vkd3d earlier today, any idea how good i...

ichigo•10/8/24, 9:26 AM

I installed the debian packages for vkd3d and the samples ran

ichigo•10/8/24, 9:28 AM

which is funny as hell, considering that laptop has an Intel HD 4000 GPU

ichigo•10/8/24, 9:28 AM

that thing is /not/ vulkan compliant and /definitely/ doesn't support d3d12 even on windows

ichigo•10/8/24, 9:29 AM

but the based mesa devs got it working anyway (even then vulkan 1.0 support is not complete)

Iichigo I installed the debian packages for vkd3d and the samples ran

Aqua•10/8/24, 11:40 AM

that gives a bit of confidence in getting it working, will take a look myself when i have a working linux install again

Aqua•10/8/24, 11:41 AM

d3d12 would be absolutely ideal for me. i love d3d11 way more than i should do so d3d12 is probably the best api for me if it can work on linux and hopefully macs in the future as well

Aqua•10/8/24, 11:42 AM

will be interesting trying to get the windows headers compiling on linux though. didn't have much luck before when i used dxvk-native. can't remember what was missing though, probably something obvious

Essial•10/8/24, 2:31 PM

windows headers? like HWND/HDC and such? sounds painful

Aqua•10/8/24, 4:05 PM

Yeah, directx needs a lot of the windows headers as well

TTechPizza notch seemingly was learning java too, spwaning particles in beta is a big strin...

DragonsScales•10/9/24, 2:29 AM

lol that’s funny

ichigo•10/9/24, 8:55 AM

I don't know that you would use the windows headers. AFAIK you'd be using only d3d, not directx

sowa705•10/9/24, 8:55 AM

it's funny how notch became a billionaire and did literally nothing with that money

ichigo•10/9/24, 8:56 AM

also I wish I could use d3d12 everywhere with vkd3d but it's LGPL so I can't (there is a popular platform that supports vulkan but requires static linking and NDAs)

ichigo•10/9/24, 8:56 AM

dxvk isn't though, so I might fall back to d3d11

ichigo•10/9/24, 9:00 AM

however, DXVK won't compile on my HD 4000 machine because it requires Vulkan 1.3 and the cracked mesa devs only support almost-vulkan 1.0 on HD 4000 GPUs.

ichigo•10/9/24, 9:00 AM

whereas the vkd3d samples do run

sowa705•10/9/24, 9:04 AM

maybe it's time to upgrade from ivy bridge

sowa705•10/9/24, 9:05 AM

I think basically everything works fine on skylake

Ssowa705 it's funny how notch became a billionaire and did literally nothing with that mo...

ChickenSystems•10/9/24, 3:09 PM

That you know of. ;)

ChickenSystems•10/9/24, 3:09 PM

Also he bought a really expensive house in LA.

sowa705•10/9/24, 3:13 PM

70m out of 1.5B or something like that

sowa705•10/9/24, 5:18 PM

phones are now faster than laptops in single thread lol

Ssowa705 it's funny how notch became a billionaire and did literally nothing with that mo...

DragonsScales•10/9/24, 8:47 PM

well early retirement!

Ssowa705 maybe it's time to upgrade from ivy bridge

ichigo•10/10/24, 7:19 AM

Nah the lappy still works and Acer never made anything better.

ichigo•10/10/24, 7:20 AM

I have a haswell desktop PC that has a Vega 64 in it if I /actually/ need graphics.

sowa705•10/10/24, 7:20 AM

there are other brands than acer lol

ichigo•10/10/24, 7:20 AM

yeah, but I didn't see them making anything better either

ichigo•10/10/24, 7:21 AM

this laptop is

small
replaceable battery
upgradable ram, hdd (I put an ssd in tho)
core i5

ichigo•10/10/24, 7:21 AM

anything with reasonable specs is over 11" now

sowa705•10/10/24, 7:23 AM

core i5 doesn't mean much when it's slower than a $200 phone. reminds me of using my x230 some time ago lol

ichigo•10/10/24, 7:23 AM

my point being that it was actually usable at the time, anything released now in a similar formfactor has an anemic cpu

ichigo•10/10/24, 7:24 AM

like, this was clearly designed as a fully featured laptop. Nobody's doing that now in 11"

sowa705•10/10/24, 7:24 AM

maybe you can find something that is 13" and has smaller bezels

sowa705•10/10/24, 7:24 AM

11 inch is dead though

ichigo•10/10/24, 7:24 AM

nah wouldn't fit in my bag

Ssowa705 11 inch is dead though

ichigo•10/10/24, 7:24 AM

yeah it sucks

ichigo•10/10/24, 7:25 AM

so I'll just keep using this one. I wish the screen was better though

sowa705•10/10/24, 7:27 AM

x230 had a hilarious screen

sowa705•10/10/24, 7:27 AM

worst TN panel in existence

sowa705•10/10/24, 7:27 AM

colors shifted on the edges when looking perfectly straight

merged🎉 the reason its so jank is that the API was originally built for use in FNA/MojoShader exclu

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