i just wanted to know where is embedded heading to?
i just wanted to know where is embedded heading to?
Tlow power, linux, AI
MDoes 30 years in the industry count?
The only thing one can say with certainty is: Smaller, Faster, Cheaper
There will always be a split between Bare Metal, RTOS & Linux - mainly because these fill difference niches. There will just be more of all three.
My only guess is that the AI bubble will burst. At the moment, you just slap an 'AI' label on it and then go raise some investment. This is something I have seen too many times with DotCom, Web2.0, etc, etc.
They all burst - leaving the things that actually had purpose space to grow properly.
LLMs are good for helping, but they don't understand.
There is a lot of good AI/ML out there, but is in far more specific areas not general level intelligence.
When I was researching AI in 1992, full AI was always '20 years away'. 30 years later, it is still '20 years away'! Saying that, the advances are coming through far more rapidly now.
As embedded gets more powerful, then yes, there will be a lot more 'AI' at the edge as there has always been a flow of technology down to the smaller devices. I remember when having a network stack on a hand-held device was exciting!
The only thing one can say with certainty is: Smaller, Faster, Cheaper
There will always be a split between Bare Metal, RTOS & Linux - mainly because these fill difference niches. There will just be more of all three.
My only guess is that the AI bubble will burst. At the moment, you just slap an 'AI' label on it and then go raise some investment. This is something I have seen too many times with DotCom, Web2.0, etc, etc.
They all burst - leaving the things that actually had purpose space to grow properly.
LLMs are good for helping, but they don't understand.
There is a lot of good AI/ML out there, but is in far more specific areas not general level intelligence.
When I was researching AI in 1992, full AI was always '20 years away'. 30 years later, it is still '20 years away'! Saying that, the advances are coming through far more rapidly now.
As embedded gets more powerful, then yes, there will be a lot more 'AI' at the edge as there has always been a flow of technology down to the smaller devices. I remember when having a network stack on a hand-held device was exciting!
TI’m curious how much the Musk Optimus robots “understand” at this point. You’d think they would have to at least to some extent to perform as advertised.
UThese days I see embedded devices in two forms, low-power battery operated devices used widely in IoT. And other category is power-hungry devices, capable of running n training AI algo. and require huge compute. Now as future is AI, with embedded devices surely become more expensive in terms of power consumption. Because energy is not yet cheap at many geo. But, I agree and enjoy reading news and learning associated cost in the market for operation and deployment. By the way it's possible to run small logic (pre-trained model) in the form of rules to perform at the edge for battery-operated embedded devices. Now you can called it as AI or not is very subjective. Happy to hear from others perspective.
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MTo me ‘understanding’ would be teaching it to iron a pair of trousers and then giving it a shirt. How can it cope with inferred knowledge.
TDoes inferred knowledge like this require a level of unsupervised learning? I guess it would have to... which is also the great fear when you have an army of robot slaves all around us.
Mthe great fear when you have an army of robot slaves
That’s why we have the three laws of robotics
AI have a tds sensor in the data sheet that reads from 1000-0 PPM, but there is a project on the market that has the same sensor attached to it, which is the tds meter v1, that reads up to 10,000. How did it manage to do that? Can anyone help me?
TAre you sure it’s the same sensor? Did you double check the sensor datasheet (not a wiki) and also double check the product is in fact using the same sensor and only that sensor?
!Who wants to work with me long term and earn money?
I am a developer.
I am a developer.
ZOk tell us how will they make money working with you?
TWhat is the job? Put it in #jobs
AYes, I am sure it is the same sensor. I read the sensor data sheet from the manufacturer and it only reads 1000 PPM, but I do not know how to make it read 10,000 PPM.
T@ZacckOsiemo @Camila_99$$ @Middleware & OS did you guys check out Matthew Flynn's code: ✅-code-review.Net Class for Invensnese ICM-20948
AIs it possible to connect arduino uno R4 wifi to blynk platform with a library like blynk.edgnt where I can change the password and wifi network name without having to change the code?
MYes very possible
M@kbrsi
UIt's possible, you may need to use OTA feature provided in Blynk Cloud. It has a dedicated OTA tab in the dashboard. I mean you can change the password in the form of new firmware release (over the air) update
ZOh my word! https://www.communica.co.za/collections/specials/products/fnirsi-dso1013d-dual-ch-100mhz does anyone already have one of these. I might loan out a kidney to try this.
Communica South Africa
1013D is a Tablet Screen-Touch Oscilloscope in a Handheld Portable Size. 100MHz Bandwidth/1GSA/S Sampling Rate 2CH Tablet Oscilloscope witH 3.7V 6000mAh BatteryDual Channel Touchable Panel Oscilloscope Features 2 Channels Portable Handheld Tablet Oscilloscope 1GSa/s Sampling Rate (1X=5MHz,10X=100MHz) 100MHZ * 2analog
Mlooks nice
i personally prefer the displayless one due to its small size and ease
i personally prefer the displayless one due to its small size and ease
Mi am also in search of oscilloscope
Zyeah but that's an extra cable going into the host and then you are juggling buttons and when to start it.
Mnever thought of that
ZAlso if you dont have usb 3.0 some signals are going to be hard to catch nicely
ZBut I also love the logic analyser as well, I with they made a bus pirate that had a screen
Mas in?
ZZAlmost like a low level sniffer
Mnever seen this!
looks amazing
looks amazing
Mtime to dive into it
AYes I understand you thank you
MI with they made a bus pirate that had a screen
You mean like this:
https://buspirate.com/bus-pirate-5-rev-10-now-available/
Bus Pirate
Bus Pirate 5 REV10 is ready! The next generation of Bus Pirate is here.
Type simple commands in a terminal and talk to chips over 1-Wire, I2C, SPI, UART, and more. Figure out how a chip works before writing a line of code.
Hardware specs
Get Bus Pirate 5 and
Type simple commands in a terminal and talk to chips over 1-Wire, I2C, SPI, UART, and more. Figure out how a chip works before writing a line of code.
Hardware specs
Get Bus Pirate 5 and
MI bought one of these to help out when I volunteer at our local Repair Café
- where a bunch of us try and fix things that people bring in.
https://www.fnirsi.com/products/dso-tc3?srsltid=AfmBOoqR7g93JlREbd-SIQZ-Xz6dea9DeGGaLUkv4_4u7_7B8i-lGI9V
The features that have been most useful are the 'What is this random, unlabelled component' and it tells you not only what it is, but for a transistor, what the pins are, etc.
Also, the waveform generator is great for testing speakers to see if it is the speaker or the electronics that have broken.
FNIRSI
FNIRSI DSO-TC3: A 3-in-1 handheld tool integrating oscilloscope, signal generator, and transistor tester. Real-time 10MS/s sampling, 500kHz bandwidth, and 6 waveform options.
Zwhat! bno way!
AWhat should I edit in the OTA file can you help me?
Tquick question is self-promotion(no sales pitch included) allowed here as long as its related to embedded?
Zyes, it's encouraged we have a #projects-and-self-promotion channel
UYou don't need to modify any file. All you should do is edit your code with updated password and compile a project using
Skecth --> Export Compile Binary in Arduino IDE to generate .bin file. Now this binary file can be uploaded into target hardware i.e. on ur Arduino R4 from OTA Tab of a Blynk Dashboard. This way you can change the password, remotely from anywhere. I hope this will help. Best wishes!Toh nice didn't see it
DHey guys, with the recent evolution in AI and Robotics what do y'all think?
Should AI-driven automation be prioritized over human workers to mitigate risks and enhance operational efficiency in industries where safety and precision are critical such as mining, construction, and manufacturing?
Considering factors such as job displacement, long-term cost implications, ethical concerns, and the evolving nature of AI capabilities.
What balance do you think should be struck between leveraging automation and maintaining a human workforce to ensure both safety and job security?
@Middleware & OS @MCU, MPU & Firmware
Should AI-driven automation be prioritized over human workers to mitigate risks and enhance operational efficiency in industries where safety and precision are critical such as mining, construction, and manufacturing?
Considering factors such as job displacement, long-term cost implications, ethical concerns, and the evolving nature of AI capabilities.
What balance do you think should be struck between leveraging automation and maintaining a human workforce to ensure both safety and job security?
@Middleware & OS @MCU, MPU & Firmware
E- By providing more training ,you can transfer human workforce to other roles.
- Government can provide restrictions to protect the workers rights and promote fair distribution of automation benefits
- The automation should supplement and not replace human workforce.
MI just wrote a long post bringing in historical examples of how previous technological revolutions were a bit sh*t to live through for the people that lost their jobs at the time but in every case has advanced humanity each time.
However discord said it was too long and refused to post it.
See the agricultural revolution, the Luddites, etc.
As I am typing on my phone, I am giving up and getting another glass of wine instead
However discord said it was too long and refused to post it.
See the agricultural revolution, the Luddites, etc.
As I am typing on my phone, I am giving up and getting another glass of wine instead
WIt's sad Discord didn't let it go through, revolutions can be tough for those affected, (i didn't go through thinking if it's a good thing or not and if it's worth it) i think i will spend the night thinking about it now 
, Enjoy your glass Sir!
, Enjoy your glass Sir!
KIdealistically I like to think we can reduce our role as engineers to improving the "efficiency" of humanity through technology. We bring new capabilities, and make old capabilities cheaper and easier and more accessible.
If we do so well that not every person needs to work for us all to have a good standard of living, I see that as a good thing. (Note on this, if embedded got fully automated, I like to think I could still flash leds on my desk for fun)
The real problem there is social / political. Less work needed should just mean more time for frolicking
If we do so well that not every person needs to work for us all to have a good standard of living, I see that as a good thing. (Note on this, if embedded got fully automated, I like to think I could still flash leds on my desk for fun)
The real problem there is social / political. Less work needed should just mean more time for frolicking
PPost it to Google Blogger, GitHub or another free website and give us a link?
DWhile training and transitioning workers to other roles seems ideal, not every industry can accommodate displaced workers with new roles at scale. Also, government restrictions might slow down technological innovation. Can we truly say automation will supplement rather than replace when the trend suggests full automation is the goal? @Edison_ngunjiri
DIt's easy to point to past revolutions and claim they advanced humanity, but they also caused immense social upheaval. The Luddites weren't just resisting change for the sake of it they saw firsthand the negative consequences for workers. Why should we assume this AI revolution will be any less disruptive or more humane?
ZAll the revolutions turned out to be more humane than we ever thought, we live longer, healthier freeer lives because these things happened. Ofcourse there will be losers but ultimately when AI is finding breast cancer where a doctor would have missed it , life is good. Disruption is key remember it's not our world, it's the blind watchmakers world.
