VPforce Controls•15mo ago

The Rhino is first a machine designed to shake itself apart and second a fun input device. 😂 The l

The Rhino is first a machine designed to shake itself apart and second a fun input device.

The loose pinion gear wasn’t the last thing I had to retighten and fixate with loctide.

HHiob The Rhino is first a machine designed to shake itself apart and second a fun inp...

Henning Piez•10/13/24, 9:47 PM

Ok, Now I understand the name "joystick"

HHiob The Rhino is first a machine designed to shake itself apart and second a fun inp...

Bob Bushman•10/13/24, 11:27 PM

I mounted a couple of transducers to a recliner once for movie watching.

It was potent but cheap kit, it could make the 80lbs chair rattle across the floor like an old nokia phone would across a glass table.

With my 200lbs butt sitting in it.

And the chair was just shaken beyond function in a matter of months.

CoolHand•10/14/24, 12:06 AM

Hey all, I'm new to this joystick and having issues with the AH64. When I force trim it snaps the stick almost all the way to the right. I have the special settings to INSTANT TRIM and the pedals to WITHOUT SPRINGS AND FFB

CoolHand•10/14/24, 12:24 AM

Ah I figured it out. The "swap axis" box was checked, which inhibited it form working.

CCoolHand Ah I figured it out. The "swap axis" box was checked, which inhibited it form wo...

Number481•10/14/24, 12:27 AM

As a rule, to ensure a proper experience:

Make sure the axes directions are set correctly in configurator such that the position dot follow the stick inputs correctly. This ensures that “FFB direction” and “axis direction” are in sync.
don’t use curves in DCS axis settings
don’t use saturation in DCS axis settings

H. Bear•10/15/24, 5:32 AM

G'day @walmis , unfortunately my WinWing adapter snapped at the threaded collar.
Could you let me know how to get another or if there's an stl I can try to print a replacement.
#VPF-0702
Cheers.

H. Bear•10/15/24, 5:32 AM

PiNKSH!T•10/15/24, 9:32 AM

@walmis sorry to ping you, but just about to use my rhino in a dcs op first time since the recalibration you did. Is it ok for me to import & apply old config profiles or will that break the new calibration you did on the x motor?

PPiNKSH!T @walmis sorry to ping you, but just about to use my rhino in a dcs op first time...

HiobOP•10/15/24, 9:46 AM

I don't know of course what Walmis did with your motor, but in general the auto calibration in the VP config is supposed to be a user level exercise that can (and must) be performed whenever you change something, like installing a throw limiter, change or re-tighten the belts etc.
So I think it is save to say, that you certainly won't break anything if you do a calibration. Just look at the monitor in the config tab and see if everything is properly centered. Otherwise do a calibration.

HHiob I don't know of course what Walmis did with your motor, but in general the auto ...

PiNKSH!T•10/15/24, 9:48 AM

Nah walmis did some sort of motor recalibration. It all looked like ancient runes & magic to me

PPiNKSH!T Nah walmis did some sort of motor recalibration. It all looked like ancient rune...

HiobOP•10/15/24, 10:02 AM

I think that is saved on a deep firmware level and not affected by user profiles.

HHiob I think that is saved on a deep firmware level and not affected by user profiles...

PiNKSH!T•10/15/24, 10:04 AM

awesome, thanks for your help m8

HH. Bear Click to see attachment

TrigaNZ•10/15/24, 10:06 AM

https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1198547200058347670/1252245760293208115

ZSH Zebra•10/15/24, 10:10 AM

Stupid question. Are the PC fans required for VPForce 5V or 12V.

TTrigaNZ https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1198547200058347670/125224576029...

H. Bear•10/15/24, 10:27 AM

Beauty, cheers mate!

ZZSH Zebra Stupid question. Are the PC fans required for VPForce 5V or 12V.

HiobOP•10/15/24, 10:35 AM

12V

ZSH Zebra•10/15/24, 10:35 AM

Thanks

PPiNKSH!T @walmis sorry to ping you, but just about to use my rhino in a dcs op first time...

amadeus•10/15/24, 7:50 PM

i've had this re-calibration done as well. nothing you do with the configurator will have an effect on this, so you're good to go

Aamadeus i've had this re-calibration done as well. nothing you do with the configurator ...

PiNKSH!T•10/16/24, 2:13 AM

cheers m8, good to know

Reed•10/16/24, 6:39 AM

Why are users needing or getting a motor recalibration and how would I know if I need it?

RReed Why are users needing or getting a motor recalibration and how would I know if I...

HiobOP•10/16/24, 7:40 AM

When you don't know if you need it - you don't need it.

HiobOP•10/16/24, 7:42 AM

Sometimes the motors act up - and Walmis can usually fix that remotely - but if you don't encounter any problems. Don't worry.

Old Prospector•10/16/24, 12:13 PM

Any idea what the the wait time is going to be like for Virpil FLNKR compatibility?

OOld Prospector Any idea what the the wait time is going to be like for Virpil FLNKR compatibili...

walmis•10/16/24, 3:52 PM

I have one on order, so once I get it should be quick

Old Prospector•10/16/24, 3:52 PM

Cool, thanks

Old Prospector•10/16/24, 3:53 PM

Received my Rhino today

Old Prospector•10/16/24, 3:53 PM

Hope to find time to DIY the mount and get it going.

f14billy•10/17/24, 5:52 PM

Anyone ever had this issue with the 86 motors with adaptive recentering overshooting and not being able to find the center? Once it starts it won't stop unless it's completely shut down or recalibrated or sometimes I have to put the stick dead center and hold it for a few seconds and this only stops it temporarily. After some use it comes back. Luckily when using a game with TelemFFB on this issue goes away and works as expected. Once the sim is closed and TelemFFB is not in use it comes back. Since I always use TelemFFB this isn't an issue. Just annoying haha.

f14billy•10/17/24, 5:52 PM

Ff14billy Anyone ever had this issue with the 86 motors with adaptive recentering overshoo...

HiobOP•10/17/24, 7:05 PM

Sounds as if you dampening is to low. Try to adjust the adaptive dampening (right side of the settings screen). Spring proportional dampening or smething like that it is called…..

f14billy•10/17/24, 7:10 PM

Spring strength proportional dampening is at 100%. This issue doesn't happen all the time and TelemFFB fixes it when running and in use.

f14billy•10/17/24, 7:14 PM

I've only been able to recreate it semi consistently by bumping the stick lightly a few times to where the position is just to the edge of the centering circle in the screen. Then when it tries to center it it overshoots the center and that behavior starts.

Ff14billy Anyone ever had this issue with the 86 motors with adaptive recentering overshoo...

Reed•10/17/24, 7:23 PM

Are you using hard limiter or software limiters. WHen is the last time you calibrated? THis is very interesting.

f14billy•10/17/24, 7:23 PM

f14billy•10/17/24, 7:25 PM

Here is a video of me recreating it. It works just fine until I do the light jumping then the oscillation grows gradually until it reaches the maximum shown in my first video. No software limiters.

Reed•10/17/24, 7:26 PM

What is your static force or balance spring set at if using?

f14billy•10/17/24, 7:26 PM

f14billy•10/17/24, 7:27 PM

Settings and you can see the maximum oscillation to the left of the centering circle.

Reed•10/17/24, 7:27 PM

One more thing, are you positive you don't have something ingame bound to these axis, like vr hand controller or similar. I have had this happen and I chased this for days.

f14billy•10/17/24, 7:28 PM

f14billy•10/17/24, 7:29 PM

Effects settings. Nothing is bound to the axis and nothing running in the background. The original rhino I have with the 57 motors does not have the issue with similar settings except balance spring is different due to the lack of extension.

Reed•10/17/24, 7:31 PM

Very interesting man, above my knowledge

f14billy•10/17/24, 7:36 PM

And lastly here is a video of it being fixed temporarily by making a few circles and leaving it centered by hand.

f14billy•10/17/24, 7:37 PM

TheAmazinGreat•10/17/24, 7:39 PM

I would guess your spring is too low. In effects tab change all spring to 100%. And set slider at 50% in settings tab

TheAmazinGreat•10/17/24, 7:41 PM

Your current settings are giving less force than stock rhino.

f14billy•10/17/24, 7:42 PM

My current settings give me way more force than the stock rhino actually but I'll try and see if setting max spring takes care of the issue.

f14billy•10/17/24, 7:44 PM

Ok I did some testing. Setting the springs to 100% in both the effects tab and the setting tab fixes the issue. So you are right. Adaptive recentering is needing more spring strength to work correctly.

f14billy•10/17/24, 7:45 PM

Luckily with TelemFFB it doesn't need that much strength. It works perfectly with my original settings.

TheAmazinGreat•10/17/24, 7:45 PM

At 100% on spring your monster rhino is 1.7x the stock. You have limited it to 49% of that

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