they can hit same metals twice but reducing from less than a millisecond to even less than a millise

they can hit same metals twice but reducing from less than a millisecond to even less than a millisecond is very inconsequential, the rest of your code will be far far slower than routing ever is

WalshyOP•10/15/24, 1:19 PM

pick what makes more sense for you, hono is great, functions default stuff is great, itty-router is great, lots of things you can use

better to prioritise what makes sense from a dx/usability prospective than worry about micro-optimisations in perf

Burrito•10/15/24, 2:00 PM

I was also thinking about the cost of including library's code which needs to be parsed and run, and well a dependency is a dependency you need to maintain. But I see your point.

Ricky U•10/16/24, 2:02 AM

Are my API functions being scanned?

Im looking out the Real time logs for my pages functions and i see random api calls to endpoints that do not exisit such as:
/api/liferay
/api/users/admin/check
so many other randoms..
and despite not having any functions there, cloudflare returns a 200 OK?
are these cloudflare pings? or what are they?
my guess is that all routes to /api/* are allowed but if function does not exist it should block or not pass through...
any help much appreicated

Ricky U•10/16/24, 2:04 AM

the User-agent seems normal
And the json for the botsManagment shows as :

"botManagement": {
          "corporateProxy": false,
          "verifiedBot": false,
          "jsDetection": {
            "passed": false
          },
          "staticResource": false,
          "detectionIds": {},
          "score": 99
        }
      }
    },
    "response": {
      "status": 200

"botManagement": {
          "corporateProxy": false,
          "verifiedBot": false,
          "jsDetection": {
            "passed": false
          },
          "staticResource": false,
          "detectionIds": {},
          "score": 99
        }
      }
    },
    "response": {
      "status": 200

Ricky U•10/16/24, 2:05 AM

shouldn't it return a 404 at the very least, or have no response if the route doesn't exisit

Ricky U•10/16/24, 2:19 AM

seems to be coming from : "asOrganization": "Amazon.com",

RRicky U seems to be coming from : "asOrganization": "Amazon.com",

Isaac McFadyen•10/16/24, 2:33 AM

Check if you have a 404.html. If not then Pages will assume SPA mode and will always serve an index.html even for not found routes.

https://eas.lol•10/19/24, 7:25 PM

https://eas.lol•10/19/24, 7:25 PM

on my main domain ı cant update the list even ı do its not works but if ı try on backup domain its works fine

https://eas.lol•10/19/24, 7:25 PM

DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN

Idle•10/19/24, 8:36 PM

:raised_eyebrow_cat:

TheHeretic•10/23/24, 2:49 PM

hey, really quick, can I run page functions in python, or does it have to be with js/ts?

jsk•10/23/24, 10:47 PM

The documentation says this regarding switching from fail close/fail open for a cf function:

jsk•10/23/24, 10:47 PM

jsk•10/23/24, 10:47 PM

There is literally no place inside of a project to change this setting anywhere

jsk•10/23/24, 10:49 PM

I checked workers routes under domains to see if the cloudflare function would be present there for this domain and its not. Not sure if a lot of additional config needs to happen but the cf function is currently up and running

RRicky U for me its in the side bar called "workers routes" after you select your pages w...

jsk•10/25/24, 5:52 PM

I'll follow up on my old message lol -- I can't see fail closed under Workers Routes, or any worker even available under workers routes, because we're using cf functions which technically isn't an isolated worker?

I can add the route but it doesn't matter since worker is none regardless -- theres nothing to match to it and indicate whether to fial open/fail close

WWalshy pick what makes more sense for you, hono is great, functions default stuff is gr...

Kevin•10/27/24, 4:31 PM

Each flavor has their perks/focus!

WWalshy they can hit same metals twice but reducing from less than a millisecond to even...

Kevin•10/27/24, 4:33 PM

This right here... lotta folks wasting time on optimizing a near-zero to even nearer-zero (every mainstream router) instead of their code that is the real slowdown, haha

Pick the router that fits your vibe/needs and don't look back [until much later]

crossbeau•10/29/24, 12:38 PM

Whats the real difference between workers and functions

WalshyOP•10/29/24, 12:38 PM

functions are just workers underneath so not much

WalshyOP•10/29/24, 12:39 PM

functions are just nicely packaged with workers and have their own file based routing system

crossbeau•10/29/24, 12:39 PM

Any limitations of one vs. the other?

WalshyOP•10/29/24, 12:40 PM

functions usually lags behind a bit in terms of features due to the way it's implemented (e.g. newer bindings will take longer to be supported, logpush and other things like that aren't supported)

WalshyOP•10/29/24, 12:40 PM

but otherwise, functionally the same limitations

crossbeau•10/29/24, 12:41 PM

Got it, thank you

rob•10/31/24, 3:10 AM

on a pages project using Wrangler, if u put mode = smart it doesnt do anything, h aveto change it in the dashboar

rob•10/31/24, 3:11 AM

but the docs say

placement Placement optional

Specify how Pages Functions should be located to minimize round-trip time. Refer to Smart Placement.

placement Placement optional

Specify how Pages Functions should be located to minimize round-trip time. Refer to Smart Placement.

to put it at the highest level like pages_build_output_dir but that throws an error so idk, any ideas?

MrTeddy•11/2/24, 9:02 PM

Hi, I'm trying to build a full-stack application with Pages and Functions. My framework is Angular. I've added a functions folder, and I have a single route currently, however when I send a request to that route it returns the Angular app HTML rather than the expected response.

Any ideas?

Mathilda•11/5/24, 2:59 PM

Hello! I’m currently trying to make an ab-test with a pages function. I'm using a next js static site (SSG) but can't get it to work. Has anyone done this before and gotten it to work? With either a static or a SSR site? I’ve been following this guide: https://developers.cloudflare.com/pages/functions/examples/ab-testing/.

Augusto•11/8/24, 10:50 PM

Hi I have a question, I'm using vite with functions, to run localy using wrangler pages dev command, is always run the vite build first?

AAugusto Hi I have a question, I'm using vite with functions, to run localy using wrangle...

Hello, I’m Allie!•11/8/24, 11:10 PM

Yes

Bbondero has anyone tried using https://data-star.dev/ with pages and functions? is it ev...

Ricky U•11/9/24, 4:22 PM

DATASTAR looks interesting, a small framework.. i am sure it can be run in a function itself, --- but isn't it a client side framework , not server side rendering.

AAugusto Hi I have a question, I'm using vite with functions, to run localy using wrangle...

Ricky U•11/9/24, 4:23 PM

you need to build first, then run npx wrangler pages dev ./dist (output folder)

Adam B•11/9/24, 8:58 PM

Hey guys, is there a way to use wrangler's unstable_dev with functions?

Adam B•11/9/24, 8:59 PM

I'm trying to create a Gatsby plugin that proxies functions to make them available for local development

Adam B•11/9/24, 9:00 PM

If possible I'd like to avoid running wrangler using child_processchild_process

njdancer•11/11/24, 12:27 AM

Does anybody know what the expected behaviour is for active clients of a pages site after a deploy? Do clients continue to have their requests routed to the existing worker version somehow or does all traffic get re-routed immediately? I can't find this documented anywhere so I'm assuming its the latter but hoping to get confirmation.

Nnjdancer Does anybody know what the expected behaviour is for active clients of a pages s...

Isaac McFadyen•11/11/24, 12:29 AM

Latter. All future requests immediately hit the new version. If you want some sort of skew protection (similar to https://vercel.com/blog/version-skew-protection but not Vercel-specific) then you'll need to use a framework that provides that built-in.

njdancer•11/11/24, 12:39 AM

@Isaac McFadyen thanks for the quick response. So to accomplish this you'd need a way for the client to direct requests to the specific function version it was served against? Is there a way inside the function to get the details of the current function(i.e. version or url)?

Nnjdancer @Isaac McFadyen thanks for the quick response. So to accomplish this you'd need ...

Isaac McFadyen•11/11/24, 12:40 AM

You'll need to use a framework-specific implementation for versioning. For example, SvelteKit has https://svelte.dev/docs/kit/configuration#version

Configuration • Docs • Svelte

Configuration • Svelte documentation

njdancer•11/11/24, 12:55 AM

@Isaac McFadyen Thanks for the example. If I'm not mistaken thats not quite the same as the Vercel link. SvelteKit just seem to be using the version to decide whether they should reload the app or not. By contrast Vercel seem to be tracking the function version that the app is served from so that any subsequent requests can be made in a way that they get routed to the same function. Even if this can be handled at a framework level, I would expect that within the pages function that serves the app initially, you would need to access the id of the function(and consequently the preview url) so that you had a way to force the routing of subsequent requests.

Nnjdancer @Isaac McFadyen Thanks for the example. If I'm not mistaken thats not quite the ...

Isaac McFadyen•11/11/24, 12:57 AM

So yeah, when I linked to Vercel's link I just meant that that's the kind of feature you're looking for. But you'll likely need to do a full reload—I don't believe (although I might be wrong) that assets from a past deployment will be available on Pages once you've pushed a new version, so you'll likely need to reload the page.

njdancer•11/11/24, 1:07 AM

yeah, I think as long as you had the preview url for the current deployment you could work around that by using the preview url as your base url for everything after the initial load(although you might not want to expose that url). With that said, look's like you need the version metadata api to get the deployment id which is not currently available in pages functions by the looks. Thanks for your help.

blaze•11/13/24, 2:30 AM

Bit of a beginner's question, but how do I use pages plugins? My site is static, so no node or wrangler or anything. I have a script that runs in the build, but currently no workers or functions. If I add functions/_middleware.tsfunctions/_middleware.ts the build fails trying to import the package, but I'm not sure where the packages for functions are meant to be set up The docs say using wrangler.toml will likely overwrite settings that I have in the dashboard, which I'd prefer to avoid. Can I specify plugins from the dashboard? Or if not, is there a specific location where I should put package requirements for functions, rather than a general application sort of build? Thanks

JosiahBartlet•11/15/24, 10:15 PM

Uncaught SyntaxError: Identifier '__cf_cjs' has already been declaredUncaught SyntaxError: Identifier '__cf_cjs' has already been declared has anyone seen this?

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