Worker Routes can be wildcard

ziegfried•10/31/24, 7:20 PM

right, but without the domain, there's no DNS record actually pointing to the worker, or am I misunderstanding something?

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 7:20 PM

With Routes you just make originless records if you don't have an actual origin behind it, AAAA target 100::

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 7:20 PM

either wildcard or just for a specific hostname

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 7:21 PM

100:: is IPv6 discard, basically "handle inside of CF or drop and don't go anywhere)

ziegfried•10/31/24, 7:27 PM

like this?

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 7:28 PM

yup

ziegfried•10/31/24, 7:30 PM

thanks for your help! getting a certificate error right now, but I assume it may take a bit for those to be issued

Zziegfried thanks for your help! getting a certificate error right now, but I assume it may...

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 7:30 PM

did you issue one w/ ACM or have Total TLS on?

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 7:30 PM

that's lower then the first layer, the universal cert won't cover you

ziegfried•10/31/24, 7:31 PM

I just enabled the total tls

ziegfried•10/31/24, 7:34 PM

and it's working now, thanks a ton!

CChaika Worker Routes can be wildcard

elpupper•10/31/24, 8:15 PM

Cant u have wildcard domains route through a worker and then manage it from there?

Eelpupper Cant u have wildcard domains route through a worker and then manage it from ther...

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 8:16 PM

You can have Wildcard Worker Routes, but not wildcard Worker Custom Domains, is what that was about

CChaika You can have Wildcard Worker Routes, but not wildcard Worker Custom Domains, is ...

elpupper•10/31/24, 8:32 PM

But cant the client route to the wildcard

Eelpupper But cant the client route to the wildcard

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 8:32 PM

The client, as in an external customer not using CF?

CChaika The client, as in an external customer not using CF?

elpupper•10/31/24, 8:38 PM

Yes

elpupper•10/31/24, 8:39 PM

So the wildcard acts as a proxy

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 8:39 PM

Then you have to use CF For SaaS, which doesn't support wildcards full stop for non-enterprise

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 8:39 PM

Can only use Worker Routes and such when the domain/zone is in your account

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 8:40 PM

You can't just CNAME to a worker either if that's what you're thinking

Mozzy•10/31/24, 9:29 PM

Is there a good/native way of avoiding this behaviour in order to get a cache miss?

Mozzy•10/31/24, 9:31 PM

Currently, I'm just doing a simple cache with Hono middleware

export const cache = (name: string, minutes: number) =>
  honoCache({
    cacheName: name,
    cacheControl: `public, max-age=${minutes * 60}`,
  });

export const cache = (name: string, minutes: number) =>
  honoCache({
    cacheName: name,
    cacheControl: `public, max-age=${minutes * 60}`,
  });

MMozzy Is there a good/native way of avoiding this behaviour in order to get a cache mi...

Isaac McFadyen•10/31/24, 9:35 PM

In general this is a good way to cache-bust. It seems "hacky" but it's not really and is used quite frequently in a lot of sites actually.

Spunkie•10/31/24, 9:35 PM

So routes is not available on pages, only workers? Is that right or am I just blind?

SSpunkie So routes is not available on pages, only workers? Is that right or am I just bl...

Isaac McFadyen•10/31/24, 9:35 PM

That's correct. Pages is full-domain.

IIsaac McFadyen That's correct. Pages is full-domain.

Spunkie•10/31/24, 9:36 PM

:weicry:

IIsaac McFadyen In general this is a good way to cache-bust. It seems "hacky" but it's not reall...

Mozzy•10/31/24, 9:37 PM

I know it's helpful, but I would like the option to have stricter cache rules

Mozzy•10/31/24, 9:37 PM

Maybe a rewrite middleware before the caching?

SSpunkie :weicry:

Isaac McFadyen•10/31/24, 9:37 PM

You could write a Pages Function to proxy some routes to another backend but that would increase latency and always bill you for Function invocations.

MMozzy Maybe a rewrite middleware before the caching?

Isaac McFadyen•10/31/24, 9:37 PM

Oh I might have misunderstood. You want to disable that so it still hits the cache?

Mozzy•10/31/24, 9:37 PM

Exactly

Isaac McFadyen•10/31/24, 9:37 PM

If so there's a setting you can change in the Cloudflare dashboard.

Isaac McFadyen•10/31/24, 9:37 PM

Sec.

Isaac McFadyen•10/31/24, 9:38 PM

https://dash.cloudflare.com/?to=/:account/zone/caching/configuration

Isaac McFadyen•10/31/24, 9:38 PM

Try that

Isaac McFadyen•10/31/24, 9:38 PM

Then change Caching Level to "Ignore Query String"

Isaac McFadyen•10/31/24, 9:38 PM

Keep in mind that will ignore all query string not just the incremental cache bust there.

IIsaac McFadyen You could write a Pages Function to proxy some routes to another backend but tha...

Spunkie•10/31/24, 9:39 PM

Ya I thought about that but it kind of defeats why I wanted to use pages. Which is mostly to make it easy to understand and update for non technical users.

Spunkie•10/31/24, 9:39 PM

But that is prob what I'll do :thisisfine:

Isaac McFadyen•10/31/24, 9:39 PM

You could also create a Cache Rule that ignores a specific query string value but I believe it requires a Business plan

Mozzy•10/31/24, 9:39 PM

Something I failed to show is that I do need to bust cache if other search params change

Isaac McFadyen•10/31/24, 9:39 PM

Yeah one sec then

Mozzy•10/31/24, 9:39 PM

ahh

Isaac McFadyen•10/31/24, 9:40 PM

Unfortunately it requires Enterprise to exclude specific query params actually.

Mozzy•10/31/24, 9:41 PM

would a rewrite middleware that only keeps certain params be enough then?

Mozzy•10/31/24, 9:41 PM

Never done rewrites, so not sure it works

Isaac McFadyen•10/31/24, 9:42 PM

I believe that would work? Always hard to know because different kinds of Rules run in different orders and there's no real reference that I've seen

IIsaac McFadyen I believe that would work? Always hard to know because different kinds of Rules ...

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 9:43 PM

https://developers.cloudflare.com/ruleset-engine/reference/phases-list/#request-phases

Cloudflare Docs

Phases list | Cloudflare Ruleset Engine docs

The following tables list the phases of Cloudflare products powered by the Ruleset Engine, in the order those phases are executed. Some products such as the Cloudflare Web Application Firewall have more than one associated phase.

CChaika https://developers.cloudflare.com/ruleset-engine/reference/phases-list/#request-...

Isaac McFadyen•10/31/24, 9:44 PM

Ah TY

ChaikaOP•10/31/24, 9:44 PM

actual cache runs at the very end though, if the question is "can I use rules to modify what normal cache uses" pretty sure all of them work, transform headers at least def does

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