OK! The terminal shows up and I can see the window and the control widgets and such, but when I turn

OK! The terminal shows up and I can see the window and the control widgets and such, but when I turned on my controllers to try to use it, they didn't show up. Does it not support hotplug?

Open SkiesOP•11/9/24, 11:18 PM

(restarted to get it to register controllers) The window is pretty hard to grab and use, or at least unintuitive.

OOpen Skies OK! The terminal shows up and I can see the window and the control widgets and s...

Schmarni•11/9/24, 11:19 PM

monado doesn't support hotplug, you have to turn your controllers on before starting monado

Open SkiesOP•11/9/24, 11:19 PM

What is the control on the bottom center of the window? I don't see a tool tip or label.

SSchmarni monado doesn't support hotplug, you have to turn your controllers on before star...

Open SkiesOP•11/9/24, 11:19 PM

Oh, when will that be fixed?

Schmarni•11/9/24, 11:20 PM

idk, i don't work on monado and idk if that is even something that is being worked on

OOpen Skies (restarted to get it to register controllers) The window is pretty hard to grab ...

Nova•11/9/24, 11:21 PM

what do you mean

OOpen Skies What is the control on the bottom center of the window? I don't see a tool tip o...

Nova•11/9/24, 11:21 PM

it's for panel shells, basically you can take 2D apps and put them in different 3D objects to interact differently

NNova what do you mean

Open SkiesOP•11/9/24, 11:31 PM

I was expecting to be able to palm-grab to move the window around without resizing it, like I can in resonite, and trying to grab the controls on the corners by pointing an arrow at it which isn't a laser and then doing a grab gesture on the opposite side of the hand was weird. Splitting the difference between a fairly intuitive gesture control of "point at the thing and do a grab gesture to grab it remotely" and "actually grab the thing at the position to grab the thing" with "do a grab gesture at the position, but the active space of the grabbing isn't where the grab gesture occurs but where a pointer indicator is" and it didn't feel good to me.

Open SkiesOP•11/9/24, 11:33 PM

What's the current story for typing in Stardust like? Do I need to swap back and forth between keyboard and controller like I did in simula before?

OOpen Skies I was expecting to be able to palm-grab to move the window around without resizi...

Nova•11/11/24, 8:40 PM

oh shoot i didn't see this

OOpen Skies What's the current story for typing in Stardust like? Do I need to swap back and...

Nova•11/11/24, 8:40 PM

haven't added software keyboards yet, am working on it

Nova•11/11/24, 8:40 PM

it's... taking a while

Schmarni•11/12/24, 2:21 AM

is there still any interest in porting the stardust server to bevy? if yes i will try to integrate smithay with bevy

SSchmarni is there still any interest in porting the stardust server to bevy? if yes i wil...

Nova•11/12/24, 2:40 AM

yes, somewhat... but idk if i can integrate it well

Schmarni•11/12/24, 2:44 AM

also completely unrelated, is there a reason why you are doing automatic material batching instead of using something like material handles?

SSchmarni also completely unrelated, is there a reason why you are doing automatic materia...

Nova•11/12/24, 2:46 AM

because i want the api to be as simple and render pipeline agnostic as possible and also because i want to batch materials across client instances

Schmarni•11/12/24, 2:47 AM

ah, okay, fair enough

n_n•11/13/24, 9:05 AM

dang https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/316975#issuecomment-2471788558

Schmarni•11/13/24, 9:26 AM

egl on nvidia strikes again...

Nova•11/13/24, 3:16 PM

it's the fence again

Nova•11/13/24, 3:17 PM

@Pandapip1 did that person patch monado with this? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1083091622880890880/1277856820056035338/nvidia_egl_fence_wait.patch?ex=6728ff27&is=6727ada7&hm=42ce1aa1cc31461e11b4a3e5a174e7feca6126876a40860e28333e8010925b24&

Pandapip1•11/13/24, 6:30 PM

I don't think that patch is in nixpkgs. I can very quickly add that and see if it works.

PPandapip1 I don't think that patch is in nixpkgs. I can *very* quickly add that and see if...

Schmarni•11/14/24, 12:59 AM

I have a slightly better one, also put it behind a flag or something like that since it's more of a hack than a fix

Nova•11/14/24, 12:59 AM

sure thing :D

Schmarni•11/14/24, 1:11 AM

this is the newer patch

0001-always-fail-to-create-egl-fence.patch937B

Nova•11/14/24, 1:12 AM

ooh

Schmarni•11/14/24, 1:12 AM

hm?

Nova•11/14/24, 1:12 AM

just it's only 1 line

Schmarni•11/14/24, 1:16 AM

yeah, but one line that breaks fences, just that on nvidia they are broken already so it shouldn't make much of a difference, and since it breaks fences for every gpu i don't want to upstream that

Nova•11/16/24, 2:21 AM

@Schmarni is flatland going well?

NNova @Schmarni is flatland going well?

Schmarni•11/16/24, 3:33 AM

It still doesn't have input, i can work on it rn tho

SSchmarni It still doesn't have input, i can work on it rn tho

Nova•11/16/24, 3:33 AM

cool, lemme know if you've got any questions

NNova cool, lemme know if you've got any questions

Schmarni•11/16/24, 4:51 AM

one issue i have is that if i make the hover plane a child of the surface element it doesn't get resized, the only way around that that i can think of rn is using a channel which i have to insert into self

Nova•11/16/24, 4:51 AM

oh... you're not resizing it by scaling it right?

SSchmarni one issue i have is that if i make the hover plane a child of the surface elemen...

Nova•11/16/24, 4:52 AM

why not just store the size from the resize handles in the state struct then generate the UI for the hover plane from that size?

Schmarni•11/16/24, 4:56 AM

it is strored in ToplevelInfoToplevelInfo which is stored in ToplevelStateToplevelState but build is not run after a state change, or maybe it's that create_inner is not called again, maybe i just need to handle updates correctly

Nova•11/16/24, 4:56 AM

yeah it sounds like it's not updating right

Nova•11/16/24, 4:56 AM

you have to manually check for updates in updateupdate

Nova•11/16/24, 4:57 AM

so, compare self.size != old.sizeself.size != old.size or such then if not you call the update size method

Nova•11/16/24, 4:57 AM

create_innercreate_inner is only called once, when you first create the element

Schmarni•11/16/24, 4:58 AM

yep, i just forgot to update it

Nova•11/16/24, 4:58 AM

cool

Schmarni•11/16/24, 5:00 AM

should i store touch inputs in the state or should i use events like the resize handles?

Nova•11/16/24, 5:01 AM

i'd recommend events, that way we can put the touch plane input back into the asteroids library for use in other stuff too

Schmarni•11/16/24, 5:05 AM

watch::Sender<Vector2<f32>>watch::Sender<Vector2<f32>> doesn't implement PartialEqPartialEq, is there an Event type from asteroids?

SSchmarni `watch::Sender<Vector2<f32>>` doesn't implement `PartialEq`, is there an Event t...

Nova•11/16/24, 5:06 AM

you shouldn't need a watch sender at all, what are you doing?

NNova you shouldn't need a watch sender at all, what are you doing?

Schmarni•11/16/24, 5:07 AM

my thought was using that as the Event, storing the Receiver in the Panel, idk how to do events other than that

Nova•11/16/24, 5:08 AM

wanna vc in a bit so i can explain better?

Nova•11/16/24, 5:08 AM

i shouldn't have thrown you straight into the wolves like i did haha

Nova•11/16/24, 5:08 AM

because admittedly it's a weird architecture i designed