Hi everyone, How can I amplify the default TelemFFB plane effects ? So basically what it is for Bf10

Hi everyone,
How can I amplify the default TelemFFB plane effects ? So basically what it is for Bf109 in Il.-2 but a notch more

Thx !

BBruh'gdan Hi everyone, How can I amplify the default TelemFFB plane effects ? So basically...

Hiob•11/18/24, 7:25 PM

Increase the gain for periodic effects (guns, shudder) and constant force (g-force, de-accel) in the VP config…..and of course master gain if it isn’t on 100
Assuming you already maxed out the settings in TelemFFB

Hiob•11/18/24, 7:27 PM

Make sure you haven’t accidentally limit any force by means of the potentiometer.

HHiob Make sure you haven’t accidentally limit any force by means of the potentiometer...

Bruh'gdanOP•11/18/24, 9:52 PM

i have pot #1 to 50% as spring, and the actual Spring force is 100%...so basically 50% spring if i am not mistaken....btw. I have the smaller diamater wheels.

BBruh'gdan i have pot #1 to 50% as spring, and the actual Spring force is 100%...so basical...

Hiob•11/18/24, 9:53 PM

correct. But spring doesn’t affect the aforementioned effects.

Bruh'gdanOP•11/18/24, 9:54 PM

affirmative

HHiob Make sure you haven’t accidentally limit any force by means of the potentiometer...

Bruh'gdanOP•11/18/24, 9:57 PM

or the smaller cog is slipping ?...as i did 3d print them myself

BBruh'gdan or the smaller cog is slipping ?...as i did 3d print them myself 😬

Hiob•11/18/24, 9:58 PM

You mean the motor side pulley?

Hiob•11/18/24, 9:58 PM

Bold to make those out of 3D prints. I wouldn’t bet on their longevity.

HHiob You mean the motor side pulley?

Bruh'gdanOP•11/18/24, 9:58 PM

jup

HHiob Bold to make those out of 3D prints. I wouldn’t bet on their longevity. 😅

Bruh'gdanOP•11/18/24, 9:59 PM

me neither

Hiob•11/18/24, 9:59 PM

Well at least they are cheap and quick to replace….

Hiob•11/18/24, 10:00 PM

How many teeth?

HHiob Well at least they are cheap and quick to replace….

Bruh'gdanOP•11/18/24, 10:00 PM

thats true....i have the alu ones, but the shaft hole is too small

Hiob•11/18/24, 10:00 PM

They come in different bore sizes. 8mm is what you need

Hiob•11/18/24, 10:01 PM

Maybe you can drill it up? (be careful, wear glasses and clamp them down properly)

HHiob Maybe you can drill it up? (be careful, wear glasses and clamp them down properl...

Bruh'gdanOP•11/18/24, 10:02 PM

already thougth bout it...and will try it out. definitely need a good clamp

Hiob•11/18/24, 10:02 PM

Best to use a standing push down drill. Freehand will be hard to aline.

Hiob•11/18/24, 10:03 PM

(or bite the apple and by new ones)

Hiob•11/18/24, 10:04 PM

*buy

TeufelHunden•11/19/24, 3:49 PM

I'm using throw limiter that is not assymetric. I have 20 degree pitch foward but only 15 deg backward. My stick center is now foward 3-4 degree. How do I correct this?

TTeufelHunden I'm using throw limiter that is not assymetric. I have 20 degree pitch foward bu...

Vertigo (VIV)•11/19/24, 4:00 PM

I have the same issue, just posted in suggestions to add a recenter option. What I do for now is mess with the Y min/max axes calibration values.

TeufelHunden•11/19/24, 4:04 PM

So your saying for now I need to change the Y values in order to get a true center.

TTeufelHunden I'm using throw limiter that is not assymetric. I have 20 degree pitch foward bu...

Vertigo (VIV)•11/19/24, 4:04 PM

Or wait, maybe you have the opposite problem. You calibrated using the throw limiter, and you want your logical center to be different from the physical "middle" position?

TeufelHunden•11/19/24, 4:07 PM

I'm using phycial throw limiters which are not assymetric only for the Y axis. I recalibrated and now the software thinks that the center for me is forward about 4 deg or so. So my stick recenter to the center of the circle on the software but that center is not good for me it is foward 4 deg. I need the circle for center in the software to be back more.

TeufelHunden•11/19/24, 4:09 PM

is that the same problem you have. This problem cannot be resolved by the balance or static force settings because those settings will not move the center backwards 4 degrees or so it will only move my stick and that's not what I need so I came here for help.

Vertigo (VIV)•11/19/24, 4:09 PM

You can probably get there by first changing the Y axis calibration values (to give you more logical throw), then use the software axis scaling to set an asymetric scale for Y. Probably quite a bit of trial and error

Vertigo (VIV)•11/19/24, 4:12 PM

Its similar but different from what I have. I use software endstops and want to use only the "bottom half" of the physical range, but I do want that to be symmetric (I printed an extension that angles the stick forward a bit). By using software endstop scaling, center position remains in the physical middle, so if I have like 1 degree throw for negative Y and 20 degree for positive, which doesnt really fly well

Vertigo (VIV)•11/19/24, 4:14 PM

But it is what you want I think, just a little less extreme

TeufelHunden•11/19/24, 4:17 PM

Maybe there is no problem for me. I know that it seems my stick is forward at its new center but maybe that's because of the fact my throw is more forward than back and true center for my setup is now foward a little which make sense.

Vertigo (VIV)•11/19/24, 4:19 PM

Yeah if you calibrated using the actual physical range (with limiter) stick center will be in the middle of the range.

TeufelHunden•11/19/24, 4:20 PM

glad I didn't order my new extension with any rake lol now my stick is naturally canted a little forward but thats ok I need to test it out in the sky I'm sure it will be fine

Vertigo (VIV)•11/19/24, 4:24 PM

FWIW, if you want your stick to be upright in the middle, even if that means you have a little less throw in one direction than the other, you can do that (the way I explained) and I find that to feel more natural than I thought. Also, if you just want to offset the weight of the stick, you can do that with the static force setting

TeufelHunden•11/19/24, 4:26 PM

so change the min max for the Y?

TeufelHunden•11/19/24, 4:26 PM

change both an even amount?

TTeufelHunden change both an even amount?

TheAmazinGreat•11/19/24, 4:37 PM

With stick in its current position note Raw Y value. Move stick to desired center point and note raw Y value there.

If desired-current is positive: under Y axis calibration increase the higher number until C:#### is equal to your desired center raw Y value.

If desired-current is negative:
Decrease the lower number until C:#### is equal to your desired center raw y value.

Then you need to go into axis scaling in effects tab and play with percents so at the physical end stop you get full deflection from the virtual axis.

TheAmazinGreat•11/19/24, 4:42 PM

I think that should work to give you true 20deg fwd, 15deg back

TeufelHunden•11/19/24, 4:45 PM

ok I understand what all these numbers mean the C number and the raw numbers. This makes sense!

TeufelHunden•11/19/24, 4:53 PM

problem changing the numbers is not changing the actual physical zero of the stick in the software its just changing the scale of the virtual limit

TeufelHunden•11/19/24, 4:54 PM

not gonna work. I just need a way to change the physcial center to not be symmetric zero

TheAmazinGreat•11/19/24, 4:55 PM

Did you click apply/store? your stick should jump when you change the Y limits and click apply/store.

TheAmazinGreat•11/19/24, 4:56 PM

The x and y values at the bottom determine where the physical center is (raw values)

TheAmazinGreat•11/19/24, 4:59 PM

You are only changing one of the Y limit values. You should be changing the value in the direction of your lower degree throw in order to push the center toward that direction.

TeufelHunden•11/19/24, 5:00 PM

I changes the max down alot so that the C was the number I wanted when stick was where I wanted it to be centered

TeufelHunden•11/19/24, 5:01 PM

applied settings and stick did not move but when I move stick foward it the virtual axis hits the max way before my stick physically hits the limit

TeufelHunden•11/19/24, 5:02 PM

I did not change the min

TeufelHunden•11/19/24, 5:03 PM

but the problem is even if I get this to work there is no way to use scaling in order to get the virtual axis correct? because there is no negative options on scaling

TeufelHunden•11/19/24, 5:04 PM

scaling option only allows you to increase movement virtually not take any movement out

TheAmazinGreat•11/19/24, 5:04 PM

You need to leave the max where it is and decrease the min to move the center to desired value

TTeufelHunden scaling option only allows you to increase movement virtually not take any movem...

TheAmazinGreat•11/19/24, 5:05 PM

Have you tried putting in negative numbers? You can for some things so I figured you could for axis scaling. Make sure to unlink the values so they aren’t all the same.

TeufelHunden•11/19/24, 5:07 PM

only allows positive numbers

Hi everyone, How can I amplify the default TelemFFB plane effects ? So basically what it is for Bf10

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