@H145Rotor-Sims i think you should always counterweight a collective control since speed of movement

@H145Rotor-Sims i think you should always counterweight a collective control since speed of movement is not an issue so extra mass should not hurt anything

TTonyZ2525 @H145Rotor-Sims i think you should always counterweight a collective control sin...

H145Rotor-Sims•12/4/24, 6:58 PM

Hi Tony, I have it connected to a 10:1 gear box and noticed if I set static force it can balance but I am using this strictly for the H145 HPG. I'm reading the documentation on it and it mentions to use balance spring and adaptive force to bring it to center. So I'm not sure if I'm not allowed to use static force in conjuction with that

H145Rotor-Sims•12/4/24, 7:01 PM

TonyZ2525OP•12/4/24, 7:01 PM

I dont mean to use the forces on the motor to balance...i mean to attach a physical weight to the end of the tube to balance the entire arm before ever putting it on the motor.

smitty•12/4/24, 7:02 PM

physical weight counterbalance would be best

TonyZ2525OP•12/4/24, 7:02 PM

yes

H145Rotor-Sims•12/4/24, 7:03 PM

Okay that's what I'll do. I guess the goal is put as little resistance load on the motor as possible

TonyZ2525OP•12/4/24, 7:03 PM

yes exactly

H145Rotor-Sims•12/4/24, 7:04 PM

Now time to find some weight

TonyZ2525OP•12/4/24, 7:05 PM

try ring weights or mic stand balance weights maybe on a threaded tube so they are adjustable.

TonyZ2525OP•12/4/24, 7:06 PM

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TonyZ2525OP•12/4/24, 7:09 PM

just a few ideas

H145Rotor-Sims•12/4/24, 7:10 PM

I just did a quick test with some weights. I need about 12 lbs or need to extend the rear

TonyZ2525OP•12/4/24, 7:13 PM

probably best to extend the rear with a slightly larger tube and attack the weights to that...even a pvc tube to fit inside the collective tube and still have the wire come through the middle

TTonyZ2525 probably best to extend the rear with a slightly larger tube and attack the weig...

H145Rotor-Sims•12/4/24, 7:17 PM

As an electrician the first thing that came to mine was a 4 sq j box filled with concrete

TonyZ2525OP•12/4/24, 7:17 PM

that works

H145Rotor-Sims•12/4/24, 7:18 PM

Is there anything wrong with using 50% constant force?

TonyZ2525OP•12/4/24, 7:18 PM

or lead pellets

TonyZ2525OP•12/4/24, 7:20 PM

aside from constant power draw and possible heat in the motors not really...but if the motor powers off or ps shuts off the the copter is going down unless you constantly hold the collective in place...hard balance w weights eliminates that issue

H145Rotor-Sims•12/4/24, 7:22 PM

Just by adding two emt connectors and 1 rigid coupling my static force is 12% and holding. I gave nothing else set

TonyZ2525OP•12/4/24, 7:24 PM

add just a little more weight or slightly longer coupler and you should have it

TonyZ2525OP•12/4/24, 7:24 PM

i think the hand weight may be overkill

H145Rotor-Sims•12/4/24, 7:25 PM

I'm not sure what this really needs to be set to properly working in fs2020 the manual mentions the balance spring and adaptive re-entering but makes no mention of static force

smitty•12/4/24, 7:26 PM

the manual is mostly written for joysticks that point upward

TonyZ2525OP•12/4/24, 7:26 PM

beats me .... I know hardware but the settings are a complete mystery to me...I dont even know what to set my rhino to in fs2020 or dcs.