FAQ states that Rhino produces 9N of force which equates to 5 kg of force. Any conversion table I lo

FAQ states that Rhino produces 9N of force which equates to 5 kg of force. Any conversion table I looked up states 1 N =0.1kg so 9N =1 kg of force. So I am curios about how math was used to calculate 5 kg of force from 9 N of force? Thank you!

Iixifelixi FAQ states that Rhino produces 9N of force which equates to 5 kg of force. Any c...

Hiob•12/17/24, 3:55 PM

When converting torque into force you need to take the lever into account, which is < than 1m and therefore amplifies the force (/.2)

Hiob•12/17/24, 3:56 PM

its 9 Nm(!)

Hiob•12/17/24, 3:57 PM

How much pull force in kg you get depends on the overall length of your lever. (Axis of rotation to middle of hand)

Hiob•12/17/24, 3:58 PM

5 kg is without any additinal extension and an average flight grip

Hiob•12/17/24, 4:03 PM

(also a bit of smartassing: Newton is the unit of force, kg the unit of mass. What we really mean when we talk about kgs in this context is the equivalent force that a mass of 1 kg excerts in 1 G, which is ~9.8N)

Fierce_Fire•12/17/24, 4:08 PM

to add: you're missing the m in the 9 Nm. This means torque at an axis. To go from torque to force you need to divide by the length of a lever, in this case ~.180m. or 18cm. So in this case we get 49N at the grip. This is ~5kg

ixifelixiOP•12/17/24, 4:31 PM

Thank you guys for clarifying the meter part. Now math makes sense.

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Raick•12/17/24, 4:45 PM

Loved it

Vertigo (VIV)•12/18/24, 8:43 AM

Can I buy a board +license without motors? I already own a Rhino, and I want to build another one (dont ask). I already have the motors though, I would just need a controller. The one on the website is really cheap and is listed as "replacement", so I assume this is meant to replace an existing board if it breaks, iow, its just the PCB without a firmware license. Im fine paying for the firmware, its what makes this stick magic, but Id rather not pay for 2 motors I dont need. Can I order a "kit without motors"?

VVertigo (VIV)Can I buy a board +license without motors? I already own a Rhino, and I want to ...

walmis•12/18/24, 8:56 AM

You can just grab the replacement board if you already have the motors

Wwalmis You can just grab the replacement board if you already have the motors 🙂

Vertigo (VIV)•12/18/24, 9:23 AM

Seriously? Thats going to be one cheap rhino. You should charge more for the board+firmware. Do I have to / can I change firmware settings to configure which motors Im using, or if I decide to build a rudder first, that its a Z axis controller?

VVertigo (VIV)Can I buy a board +license without motors? I already own a Rhino, and I want to ...

Fierce_Fire•12/18/24, 9:23 AM

I hope you know you need the vp motors if you want to use the board, it has its own controllers

FFierce_Fire I hope you know you need the vp motors if you want to use the board, it has its ...

Vertigo (VIV)•12/18/24, 9:24 AM

ah, the motors are not "default"? In that case, I guess I dont have the motors yet lol

Fierce_Fire•12/18/24, 9:24 AM

Haha, I made the same mistake that's why I warned

Vertigo (VIV)•12/18/24, 9:31 AM

May be an idea to make that a little more clear. Also, I dont see spare motors listed, if these motors are customized, that may be required one day. Or if I want to upgrade to stronger ones. I suppose shelling out 25 euro for a new board as well isnt the end of the world though.

Fierce_Fire•12/18/24, 9:35 AM

If you want a spare motor just message walmis, he is really chill about things like that

VVertigo (VIV)May be an idea to make that a little more clear. Also, I dont see spare motors l...

Arno•12/18/24, 10:29 AM

@walmis I have been contemplating about this too. I have an exsting VPForce 86BLF03 setup. Could I transplant its electronics to a generic 86BLF04 motor, or is it not compatible?

AArno @walmis I have been contemplating about this too. I have an exsting VPForce 86BL...

walmis•12/18/24, 10:35 AM

No it would break the motor profiling/calibration. Each driver is tuned to the specific motor

VPforceBot•12/18/24, 12:13 PM

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Fissy•12/18/24, 2:03 PM

Christmas rhinos getting pumped

G. R. Cooper•12/18/24, 2:28 PM

mine is currently in Cologne ... it's going to be a very good christmas

Fissy•12/18/24, 4:25 PM

I cant figure out a way to mount mine without spending a grand on a chair

Alighierian•12/18/24, 4:38 PM

Desk and floor mounting might be options.
The latter could be pretty simple; sufficiently large sheet of sturdy material, 4 mounting points for the Rhino.

Fissy•12/18/24, 4:40 PM

Yeah floor was the plan but bunch of issues came up with that

Fissy•12/18/24, 4:42 PM

stick Has to sit pretty far forward so that it has enough clearance from the chair to pull back, but that makes it less ergonomic, and i have to be far away from my desk, then i cant use my mouse to click things,

GG. R. Cooper mine is currently in Cologne ... it's going to be a very good christmas

Rocco Thamanoidis•12/19/24, 1:51 AM

Mine arriving hopefully tomorrow, it's resting in Hannover for over 1 day now.

Will any customs fee apply to german customers?

RRocco Thamanoidis Mine arriving hopefully tomorrow, it's resting in Hannover for over 1 day now. �...

walmis•12/19/24, 7:30 AM

Free borders within the EU

VPforceBot•12/19/24, 10:38 AM

:package:

RHINO #0845 Has Shipped!

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RHINO #0844 Has Shipped!

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RRocco Thamanoidis Mine arriving hopefully tomorrow, it's resting in Hannover for over 1 day now. �...

G. R. Cooper•12/19/24, 5:11 PM

good luck! Mine made it from Germany to my house in a day! Wow, I have a Rhino!

GG. R. Cooper good luck! Mine made it from Germany to my house in a day! Wow, I have a Rhino...

Rocco Thamanoidis•12/19/24, 5:24 PM

It just arrived 1hr ago. Setting it up in the rig now.

Fr4Ged•12/19/24, 8:20 PM

Good choice of a Christmas present for yourselves

FFr4Ged Good choice of a Christmas present for yourselves 😂

Bob Bushman•12/20/24, 2:07 AM

That's some good planning right there

Blackrat•12/20/24, 7:31 AM

I was hoping for a Christmas Present, but as my Birthday is in January I am hoping it will be a birthday present

Blackrat•12/20/24, 7:34 AM

Birthday is 24 days the bots says 18 days but I suspect a well earnt Christmas rest will be in order for @walmis and push that out a bit more.

FuturPaladin [FR/2A]☨•12/20/24, 12:27 PM

is there a way to make a thumb stick axis relative ?

SR-F_Winger_[73]_David•12/20/24, 1:52 PM

if anyone might be looking for one - I am selling this TM TQS F16 MissionPack. Hardly any traces of use. Original Packaging and invoice from 23.12. Asking 300,-
I hope its fine that i post that here!

SSR-F_Winger_[73]_David if anyone might be looking for one - I am selling this TM TQS F16 MissionPack. H...

f14billy•12/20/24, 3:16 PM

Sent you a PM

Rocco Thamanoidis•12/20/24, 6:01 PM

Any airbus pilot can tell us, if the sidestick gets lighter/heavier with changing airspeed? Thnx

Bozo VFA-86•12/20/24, 10:34 PM

Not that I noticed...very much not a force feedback type feel...I'll check the manual.

RRocco Thamanoidis Any airbus pilot can tell us, if the sidestick gets lighter/heavier with changin...

Boggy•12/20/24, 10:37 PM

It doesn't. It always feels the same.

TrigaNZ•12/20/24, 10:38 PM

Roll force is lighter than pitch force.

RRocco Thamanoidis Any airbus pilot can tell us, if the sidestick gets lighter/heavier with changin...

Boggy•12/20/24, 10:39 PM

When you're flight control laws blend into normal law after take off the pitch becomes a G load demand and roll becomes a roll rate demand.

Kite•12/20/24, 10:54 PM

Mentour Pilot on YouTube said Aibus are developing it to get both synchronized movement between the sticks and ffb.

Kite•12/20/24, 10:54 PM

I wonder if they will try a side yoke as well?

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