Hey, I am not sure what Hyperdrive is, but does this make it possible to have a database being hidde

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I am not sure what Hyperdrive is, but does this make it possible to have a database being hidden behind the Cloudflare Network?

SStilau Hey, I am not sure what Hyperdrive is, but does this make it possible to have a ...

AJR•2/9/25, 2:43 PM

Yes. Our tunnel integration does exactly that.

AAJR Yes. Our tunnel integration does exactly that.

StilauOP•2/9/25, 2:45 PM

I want to hide my database behind Cloudflare's Network without needing to have the CloudflaredCloudflared application on all devices..

Is that what Hyperdrive fixes?

AJR•2/9/25, 2:52 PM

Hyperdrive is a way to talk from Workers to a centralized database. We integrate with tunnels too so you'd only need have cloudflared running once somewhere within your vpc to egress the traffic to your DB from.

Based on your questions I'm assuming you're not running your application on Workers?

AAJR Hyperdrive is a way to talk from Workers to a centralized database. We integrat...

StilauOP•2/9/25, 2:56 PM

No I am not..

AJR•2/9/25, 2:57 PM

Okay. This is another interesting use case for non-workers ingress for us. I'll mention this over to our product folks.

AJR•2/9/25, 2:59 PM

For now though, Hyperdrive probably isn't going to be a lot of help for your use case, I'm afraid.

StilauOP•2/9/25, 3:00 PM

Alright, thanks tho for the help

AAJR FYI @thomasgauvin ^ Might be in a better spot to address what will fit your use...

Sam•2/9/25, 6:18 PM

Sweet thank you, let me know on the digital ocean stuff when back into the office just to get a firm answer if possible vs not.

Then I can explore alternatives if its a definite no!

Happy to speak to @thomasgauvin

also. As exploring alternatives is totally fine too.

Nick•2/10/25, 10:30 AM

Is Hyperdrive on the Cloudflare IP range? (So we can whitelist those)

SSam I have digital ocean and azure credits to burn and the latter seem to be priced ...

dave•2/10/25, 1:39 PM

You could probably use cloudflared just fine

NNick Is Hyperdrive on the Cloudflare IP range? (So we can whitelist those)

Isaac McFadyen•2/10/25, 3:56 PM

hyperdrive

Isaac McFadyen•2/10/25, 3:56 PM

TLDR: not yet.

IIsaac McFadyen TLDR: not yet.

thomasgauvin•2/10/25, 4:52 PM

This is correct, Hyperdrive is not on Cloudflare's IP range @Nick

João Castro•2/10/25, 9:42 PM

Are there any plans for supporting custom connection limits per region? Right now we seem to be hitting that limit and losing performance by being routed to a nearby region.

AJR•2/10/25, 9:43 PM

We're moving away from regional pooling, which should dramatically improve that without the additional config needed

AJR•2/10/25, 9:43 PM

Post your Hyperdrive ID and I'll enroll you early, we're still teeing up the migration for everyone

AAJR Post your Hyperdrive ID and I'll enroll you early, we're still teeing up the mig...

João Castro•2/10/25, 9:44 PM

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João Castro•2/10/25, 9:44 PM

Thanks!

João Castro•2/10/25, 9:44 PM

This was created recently btw, so not sure if it already has the new version

AJR•2/10/25, 9:44 PM

Just cut over for new configs last week, so it'd depend

AJR•2/10/25, 9:44 PM

let me check

AJR•2/10/25, 9:45 PM

Ah yeah, you're already on global pools

AJR•2/10/25, 9:45 PM

Moving to thread

Tthomasgauvin This is correct, Hyperdrive is not on Cloudflare's IP range @Nick

dave•2/10/25, 10:04 PM

It is on CF’s ASN though iirc?

Ddave It is on CF’s ASN though iirc?

Hello, I’m Allie!•2/10/25, 10:07 PM

IIRC it is on a CF ASN, but not the CF ASN

dave•2/10/25, 10:07 PM

Ahhh… I definitely missed that.

Shados•2/10/25, 11:46 PM

Hello~ I was reading about hyperdrive, and wanted to confirm something: is hyperdrive ONLY for accessing a database from workers, or can it be used for connecting from other type of distributed applications (that aren't hosted on Cloudflare?).

I assume the answer is "nope, sorry!", since it looks like Hyperdrive operates as a worker binding, but just want to confirm.

SShados 👋 Hello~ I was reading about hyperdrive, and wanted to confirm something: is hy...

AJR•2/11/25, 12:04 AM

Yes, that is correct. We've kicked around opening it up more, but have not committed to that yet. Hyperdrive operates as a standalone service, so it is technically possible, though would take some work.

If you're willing to discuss your use case a bit, it'd help us as we evaluate.

dave•2/11/25, 2:21 PM

@AJR Hmm, I think I may have found a pretty bad bug. When you reconnect, are you doing a fresh DNS lookup, or are you maybe accidentally using a cached entry?

letincho5•2/11/25, 5:14 PM

Hi, combining Hyperdrive with Neon, which connection strings is the recommended? With pool o without it?

Lletincho5 Hi, combining Hyperdrive with Neon, which connection strings is the recommended?...

dave•2/11/25, 5:39 PM

Neon suggestions without the pooler.

https://neon.tech/docs/guides/cloudflare-hyperdrive#retrieve-your-neon-database-connection-string

Cloudflare suggests with the pooler.

https://developers.cloudflare.com/hyperdrive/examples/neon/#neon-dashboard

letincho5•2/11/25, 5:41 PM

I'm testing with pooler, but I'm get an error: "Connection terminated unexpectedly" on stress test. My next test will be without.... thanks!

Lletincho5 I'm testing with pooler, but I'm get an error: "Connection terminated unexpected...

dave•2/11/25, 5:41 PM

tbh I've found Neon very unreliable in the past with connections.

letincho5•2/11/25, 5:43 PM

Yes, I'm discover stranger things on stress scenarios.

Lletincho5 Yes, I'm discover stranger things on stress scenarios.

dave•2/11/25, 5:44 PM

hyperdrive

Ddave Neon suggestions without the pooler. https://neon.tech/docs/guides/cloudflare-h...

AJR•2/11/25, 5:48 PM

I, personally, think without the pooler will be a better experience

dave•2/12/25, 2:05 PM

@AJR As a sanity check, when I use the patch API, what happens to existing connections?

Ddave @AJR As a sanity check, when I use the patch API, what happens to existing conne...

AJR•2/12/25, 2:21 PM

In most scenarios, a new pool will be created when you send traffic after the PATCH change to your configuration, and the existing connections will idle and then time out.

AAJR In most scenarios, a new pool will be created when you send traffic after the PA...

dave•2/12/25, 2:30 PM

ah dang, so that would deal with if the database password was expiring (since it would trigger a disconnect on the old pools), but wouldn't be useful for @AJR Hmm, I _think_ I _may_ have found a sadly

letincho5•2/12/25, 8:45 PM

Hi, I'm working with Drizzle (node-postgres) + Hyperdrive + Neon, I'm trying with/without pooler's connection string and with/without SSL required in connection string... but, sometimes I receive an error: Connection terminated unexpectedly ... any ideas?

letincho5•2/12/25, 8:46 PM

I try with node-postgress pool configuration like: min = 0, idleTimeout=0, etc...

The error appears on stress scenarios (500 request in 10 seconds)

AAJR In most scenarios, a new pool will be created when you send traffic after the PA...

dave•2/13/25, 10:36 PM

been thinking about this more; is there really no way to force close existing connections from the Hyperdrive side of things?

Ddave been thinking about this more; is there really no way to force close existing co...

AJR•2/13/25, 10:38 PM

Well, we'd need to build it. It'd be pretty doable, it's just not something we've had to do before.

AJR•2/13/25, 10:38 PM

But no, we don't currently have a "nuke this pool" button available to us.

AJR•2/13/25, 10:41 PM

Unrelated: we've started teeing up migration of existing Hyperdrives to the new pool placement system. I love my demo page screencaps, so here y'all go.

dave•2/13/25, 10:53 PM

Could we have have the same/similar page that shows the stats like that for our Hyperdrives?

thomasgauvin•2/14/25, 2:33 PM

@dave | ai.moda what do you think of hyperdrive's current analytics on latency? ie what are you looking to get out of this

AAJR I, personally, think without the pooler will be a better experience

thomasgauvin•2/14/25, 2:34 PM

pr incoming

Tthomasgauvin @dave | ai.moda what do you think of hyperdrive's current analytics on latency? ...

dave•2/14/25, 3:17 PM

I'd be curious what my direct to database origin latency would be for this for example.

Ddave I'd be curious what my direct to database origin latency would be for this for e...

AJR•2/14/25, 3:32 PM

If you're in an experimenting mood, you can do vanilla TCP connections to your DB from Workers. It usually goes about as well as the demo page suggests so we don't suggest it, but it'd give you the easy comparison.

https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/tutorials/postgres/

Cloudflare Docs

Connect to a PostgreSQL database with Cloudflare Workers · Cloudfla...

In this tutorial, you will learn how to create a Cloudflare Workers application and connect it to a PostgreSQL database using TCP Sockets and Hyperdrive. The Workers application you create in this tutorial will interact with a product database inside of PostgreSQL.

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