Why a reboot every time I install a normal rpm?

rustdesk flatpack does not minimize to tray and I do not know how to setup SDDM X11 (as yet). So I have gone down the rpm-ostree install route for the normal fedora rpm on the rustdesk website, but I now have to reboot before it is seen and available to use.
Any TLDR docs that I can read to see why this is?
Thanks.

Pixelguin•8/12/25, 3:25 PM

https://docs.bazzite.gg/Installing_and_Managing_Software/

Installing and Managing Applications - Bazzite Documentation

Bazzite is a custom image built upon Fedora Atomic Desktops that brings the best of Linux gaming to all of your devices.

Pixelguin•8/12/25, 3:26 PM

Layering system packages with

rpm-ostree

rpm-ostree

should be a last resort compared to containerized options like flatpak or a distrobox. The system has to reboot because it is image-based and layering a package creates a new image.

Lumaeris•8/12/25, 3:44 PM

you can't use sddm x11 since x11 is not present in bazzite at all, excluding xwayland

LLumaeris you can't use sddm x11 since x11 is not present in bazzite at all, excluding xwa...

mikx4OP•8/12/25, 5:20 PM

So the only option is to rpm-ostree rustdesk, change so it starts as a service at bootup, and then change to autologin so the login window is no longer needed(as it was wayland and thats what another bazzite person told me could change to SDDM and X11). In fact there is the X11 plasma option in the login screen already because I installed it with this "rpm-ostree install plasma-workspace-x11", but when I selected it, and tried to login with password, it just took me back to login screen. In fact, now it just hung at login screen and I had to hard reset.
Oh wow, in fact it said I was on plasma x11 at this new bootup screen(single monitor now) and it has brought up the desktop, and system settings-about tells me Graphics platform X11.
The plasma X11 does not like my laptop and external hdmi monitor hooked up at login screen. It kept hanging to black screens when trying to login. With just the laptop screen at login, it logins ok, and then i can add the second screen.
AND yes, my inexperience shows me up. The X11 desktop is not the same, I dont think, as the login screen.

Mmikx4 So the only option is to rpm-ostree rustdesk, change so it starts as a service a...

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🎄tristan•8/12/25, 7:00 PM

x11 is no longer included because it is a legacy windowing system no longer supported by Fedora/Bazzite. if the application you're trying to use still rely's on it, I'd suggest looking for a alternative

�🎄tristan x11 is no longer included because it is a legacy windowing system no longer supp...

mikx4OP•8/12/25, 7:02 PM

Is there a free remote desktop tool that works with bazzite login and desktops? Rustdesk does not work on the login screen apparently.

Mmikx4 Is there a free remote desktop tool that works with bazzite login and desktops? ...

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🎄tristan•8/12/25, 7:33 PM

sunshine and moonlight

sunshine is the host, moonlight is the app that connects to sunshine

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🎄tristan•8/12/25, 7:33 PM

you can look them up for more info

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🎄tristan•8/12/25, 7:33 PM

Bazzite has a built in command to easily setup sunshine

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🎄tristan•8/12/25, 7:33 PM

ujust setup-sunshine

ujust setup-sunshine

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🎄tristan•8/12/25, 7:34 PM

(if I remember correctly)

Mmikx4 Is there a free remote desktop tool that works with bazzite login and desktops? ...

mrvictorywin•8/12/25, 7:51 PM

set up autologin, you'll have a much easier time

mrvictorywin•8/12/25, 7:52 PM

seconded sunshine + moonlight, goated software

Mmrvictorywin set up autologin, you'll have a much easier time

mikx4OP•8/12/25, 7:58 PM

Except for the kde wallet

disabled autologin again to see if I can control remotely from the login display onwards from moonlight.
Thanks.

mrvictorywin•8/12/25, 7:58 PM

You can get wallet out of the way too, need to change the password of the default wallet to blank

mrvictorywin•8/12/25, 7:59 PM

Sunshine (server part) starts when you are logged in so it won't capture login screen

Mmrvictorywin You can get wallet out of the way too, need to change the password of the defaul...

mikx4OP•8/12/25, 8:05 PM

Yes, I just found that out. Is there no tool that allows remote display and interaction from the login screen? I will try to do that default wallet, couldn;t find it in kde wallet manager a few minutes back.

mrvictorywin•8/12/25, 8:07 PM

there is xrdp but

it will definitely not work on bazzite
it creates a virtual display

mrvictorywin•8/12/25, 8:08 PM

search for wallet in system settings, choose "start wallet manager" on bottom right, unlock the default wallet (password is your login password) and set password to be blank

mikx4OP•8/12/25, 8:12 PM

Yessir, just did that. It is autologin now and moonlight is accessing the display. However now I have to investigate a way of auto relogin in if i mistakenly logout. Thank you.
4 entries in DDG for this search kde "Relogin=true" Only 4 entries.

Mmikx4 Yessir, just did that. It is autologin now and moonlight is accessing the displa...

mrvictorywin•8/12/25, 8:22 PM

system settings -> sddm -> configure login manager, there is a setting to enable autologin even after you log out

Mmrvictorywin system settings -> sddm -> configure login manager, there is a setting to enable...

mikx4OP•8/12/25, 8:26 PM

Thank you yet again. I did change Relogin in kde-settings.conf manually and it now re-logins. And that setting where you said it is, the option is ticked. Its really a matter of experience and remembering what all the options do and where there may be.
So now, my next search is: Is there a key combination to one-time stop auto login in case I want to login as a different user

I could modify the conf file again or untick that option, but hoping there is a quicker solution.

mrvictorywin•8/12/25, 8:27 PM

Keep auto login enabled but change the user to log in

Mmrvictorywin Keep auto login enabled but change the user to log in😁

mikx4OP•8/12/25, 8:41 PM

Sorry, I dont understand how the heck I can do that. I CTRL-ALT F2 to TTY and could modify kde-settings.conf, but surely the devs of SDDM must have thought a keyboard combination at boot time to SDDM is needed so that auto-login stops?

mrvictorywin•8/12/25, 8:42 PM

I don't know any feature of sddm to interrupt auto login

mikx4OP•8/12/25, 8:43 PM

Joined SDDM Github Group to see if my idea will get shot down.
Or the another option for a KB combination to enable or disable and then Kiosks and the like still only auto login, no matter what KB combo is attempted.

Mmikx4 Joined SDDM Github Group to see if my idea will get shot down. Or the another op...

mrvictorywin•8/18/25, 3:01 PM

shoot me a ping if there are any news

mikx4OP•8/18/25, 3:02 PM

Soz m8, have already moved on to popos testing and mint stable. Thank you.

Why a reboot every time I install a normal rpm?

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