When I have durable object, let's call it xyz I must use fetch to communicate with it? or could I c

When I have durable object, let's call it xyz I must use fetch to communicate with it?
or could I call it's functions directly?
example: xyz.storage.get('key');

KKuririn When I have durable object, let's call it xyz I must use fetch to communicate wi...

codefrau•8/4/21, 9:20 PM

Yes, fetch only

Ccodefrau Yes, fetch only

KuririnOP•8/4/21, 9:20 PM

ok, thanks

Vvans163 seeing these today "Error: Internal error in Durable Object storage write caused...

kenton•8/5/21, 2:09 AM

It looks like we have some sort of bug where some errors like this happen while we roll out an update to the workers runtime. We are looking into it. (FWIW, whenever you see "internal error" that means we think it's our bug, not yours, and the error has already been reported to our internal monitoring.)

asp•8/5/21, 1:03 PM

I need to use an NPM package in my Durable Object project - can someone tell me which of these templates would allow me to do that? Thanks!

https://github.com/cloudflare/durable-objects-template
https://github.com/cloudflare/durable-objects-rollup-esm
https://github.com/cloudflare/durable-objects-webpack-commonjs

Aasp I need to use an NPM package in my Durable Object project - can someone tell me ...

Matt Silverlock•8/5/21, 1:10 PM

https://github.com/cloudflare/durable-objects-rollup-esm is (IMO) a good place to start -

GitHub

GitHub - cloudflare/durable-objects-rollup-esm: Template for durabl...

Template for durable objects, rollup, es modules. Contribute to cloudflare/durable-objects-rollup-esm development by creating an account on GitHub.

Aasp I need to use an NPM package in my Durable Object project - can someone tell me ...

Matt Silverlock•8/5/21, 1:10 PM

It even shows importing a package in the example entrypoint: https://github.com/cloudflare/durable-objects-rollup-esm/blob/master/src/index.mjs

GitHub

durable-objects-rollup-esm/index.mjs at master · cloudflare/durable...

Template for durable objects, rollup, es modules. Contribute to cloudflare/durable-objects-rollup-esm development by creating an account on GitHub.

asp•8/5/21, 1:11 PM

Alright. Thanks!

Matt Silverlock•8/5/21, 1:11 PM

(I use Rollup on my own projects, and ES Modules are the way forward, especially with Durable Objects / Workers’ Modules API)

ItsWendell•8/5/21, 4:19 PM

Is it possible to know where in the world the durable object is?

John Spurlock•8/5/21, 4:32 PM

one way is to fetch from inside the DO, and cache the colo field from that trace

John Spurlock•8/5/21, 4:35 PM

iirc module workers are now passed a property on each incoming fetch request, so is defined for the incoming worker request, but the passed to your DO's still does not have the property (I just double-checked) - it makes sense since many of the custom properties don't apply for the internal DO fetch calls, but a colo accessor (maybe on ?) would certainly be useful

ItsWendell•8/5/21, 4:49 PM

Yeah having the CF property specific for the worker would be great!

John Spurlock•8/5/21, 4:57 PM

in case you haven't seen it, check out https://where.durableobjects.live/ by @jedschmidt, a cool idea to find out which cf colos support DOs at the moment

JJohn Spurlock in case you haven't seen it, check out https://where.durableobjects.live/ by @je...

asp•8/5/21, 5:43 PM

asp•8/5/21, 5:44 PM

John Spurlock•8/5/21, 5:45 PM

hehe, probably a colo he doesn

John Spurlock•8/5/21, 5:45 PM

t have his master list yet

asp•8/5/21, 5:46 PM

It's on VPN to Albania - thought I'd populate the list some more

John Spurlock•8/5/21, 5:47 PM

it would be so nice to be able to send a worker request to a specific colo for testing this sort of thing

asp•8/5/21, 5:47 PM

asp•8/5/21, 5:47 PM

correct colo this time

asp•8/5/21, 5:47 PM

wait,

John Spurlock•8/5/21, 5:47 PM

maybe pager went off : )

asp•8/5/21, 5:48 PM

seems to change a lot from this location

asp•8/5/21, 5:48 PM

asp•8/5/21, 5:50 PM

it was 44% when I started

John Spurlock•8/5/21, 5:52 PM

denominator+++++++

asp•8/5/21, 6:25 PM

Alright, I "managed" to bring the percentage down to 37. Won't spend anymore time on this

JJohn Spurlock t have his master list yet

jed•8/5/21, 11:47 PM

yeah, using this list: https://speed.cloudflare.com/locations

jed•8/5/21, 11:47 PM

(tho should’ve handled that more gracefully)

Jjed yeah, using this list: https://speed.cloudflare.com/locations

Hello, I’m Allie!•8/5/21, 11:53 PM

How'd I not noticed that? I needed the locations of the datacenters for a project, so I scraped them off the statuspage then geocoded them.

HHello, I’m Allie!How'd I not noticed that? I needed the locations of the datacenters for a projec...

codefrau•8/5/21, 11:55 PM

Me too

codefrau•8/5/21, 11:56 PM

Guess I should update my latency map durable-objects

jed•8/6/21, 12:12 AM

i did the same until i found that endpoint!

jed•8/6/21, 12:12 AM

good thing workers makes scraping so easy…

Ccodefrau Guess I should update my latency map https://discord.com/channels/59531799019139...

codefrau•8/6/21, 12:39 AM

Actually no - the coords in that list are literally the airport coords which makes the map look rather weird zoomed in. I'll keep my reverse geocoder.

Ccodefrau Actually no - the coords in that list are literally the airport coords which mak...

Hello, I’m Allie!•8/6/21, 12:40 AM

Does your Latency Map test latency to your datacenters, or the actual Colos?

HHello, I’m Allie!Does your Latency Map test latency to your datacenters, or the actual Colos?

codefrau•8/6/21, 12:53 AM

it's measuring roundtrip latency client – worker – DO – worker – client using a websocket connection (as we do for our "real" apps)

Ccodefrau it's measuring roundtrip latency client – worker – DO – worker – client using a ...

Hello, I’m Allie!•8/6/21, 12:54 AM

And how do you figure out which colo the DO is in?

HHello, I’m Allie!And how do you figure out which colo the DO is in?

codefrau•8/6/21, 12:54 AM

https://1.1.1.1/cdn-cgi/trace

Ccodefrau https://1.1.1.1/cdn-cgi/trace

Hello, I’m Allie!•8/6/21, 12:54 AM

Should have foreseen that.

HHello, I’m Allie!Should have foreseen that.

codefrau•8/6/21, 12:55 AM

codefrau•8/6/21, 1:50 AM

Hmm, curious. One of my DOs moved from LAX to SJC today

Is that supposed to happen?

Ccodefrau Hmm, curious. One of my DOs moved from LAX to SJC today 🤔 Is that supposed to h...

Hello, I’m Allie!•8/6/21, 1:51 AM

Might have been me...

Hello, I’m Allie!•8/6/21, 1:53 AM

Sorry about that, @codefrau!

codefrau•8/6/21, 1:53 AM

Huh? How? Supposedly DOs are fixed to one colo, unless that colo is down, I thought

Ccodefrau Huh? How? Supposedly DOs are fixed to one colo, unless that colo is down, I thou...

Hello, I’m Allie!•8/6/21, 1:54 AM

I believe that DOs persist in one colo, until they are shut down. Once they are triggered again, they are reinitialized in the nearest DO-ready colo to the incoming request.

HHello, I’m Allie!I believe that DOs persist in one colo, until they are shut down. Once they are ...

codefrau•8/6/21, 1:56 AM

The way @kentonv_cf described it is that it lives in one colo, but is replicated to a few near colos for backup. It would not "jump" from the EU to the US.

Ccodefrau The way @kentonv_cf described it is that it lives in one colo, but is replicated...

Hello, I’m Allie!•8/6/21, 1:58 AM

According to your log above, it seems that because there was an extended period of time with no requests, it was terminated(FRA). Once someone else triggered it(Me, probably), it was reestablished in the nearest Colo(SJC) to my request.