Experienced people use Vulkan. Do I get any profit from learning Open GL? I started because GL looks
Experienced people use Vulkan. Do I get any profit from learning Open GL? I started because GL looks simpler.
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Personally, if you just need to draw some stuff without a window, just use a hidden window with opengl.
vulkan-tutorial implemented directly in silk if it helps at all.Personally, if you just need to draw some stuff without a window, just use a hidden window with opengl.
PVulkan is designed for AAA developers who have endless time & bottomless budgets to optimise the living hell out of their game engines
POpenGL is a lot better to use for a hobby project, but it's also slowly withering away and there is no FOSS standard to replace it with equivalent ease-of-use yet
FSo if I want to make small home projects with 3d or 2d, GL is sufficient? No need to worry about Vulkan?
Pyep! GL will be around for a long time, and makes your life easier.
FDo we have window event “OnResize”? To recalculate UI positions on screen.
Pyes there's a Resize and FramebufferResize event
Pthey are used in the examples
Pyou should pretty much always prefer the latter, as that refers to the scaled size
Pe.g. you could have a 500x500 window size, but its actual render resolution could be 1000x1000 (you see this most frequently on retina displays)
FThanks for tips, so we should use not real pixels, but "resolution" pixels from "Framebuffer".
KI think the expectation is that libraries built on vulkan / DX12 will slowly replace OpenGL. Plus translation layers ofc
Pyeah
Pi've been waiting for something like a high-level wrapper that is more akin to OpenGL (but Vulkan-style rather than with this horrible state machine bind crap) to come out for Vulkan
Pback when i had motivation i was originally going to make my own called Hulkan
KEverytime I'm impressed with your naming skills
Phahaha yes
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Kbut it sounds good
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KIulkan
Kdoesn't have the same ring to it
Khuh
KEulkan
Phaha
Kalso terrible
Pfeel free to use the name
Konce I invent the tech to have 48h in a day I'll steal the name 
Phah, can i borrow that tech? 
Konce I invent it sure lol
Pexcellent
Pgood deals have been made today
MWell so far I managed to implement Silk with Vulkan into my application, the only pain is the memory allocation. Do we know when and if VMA will be supported, or if there is any other library for C# that could be integrated with Silk for that purpose?
KKwhich works decently
KFor compute, if you really care about perf, you should be able to handle it yourself
MWell I am thinking about it
MThanks
FIs it possible to find some premade shaders for GL? Like “lit/unlit material” same as we have in Unity shaders. Or some basic examples of materials, something to start from?
TYou can probably look up PBR (Physically Based Rendering) implementation in OpenGL if that's what you're looking for. If you just want some simple shaders, TrippyGL has a a builder that allows making some basic shaders similar to MonoGame's BasicEffect: https://github.com/SilkCommunity/TrippyGL/blob/master/TrippyGL/SimpleShaderProgramBuilder.cs
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A simple, lightweight yet highly versatile OpenGL graphics library - TrippyGL/SimpleShaderProgramBuilder.cs at master · SilkCommunity/TrippyGL
TYou can definitely take some code from there and make it return just the GLSL code strings
FYes, PBR materials would be the best, because its standard for game assets.
FWill look closely at that TrippyGL, I found it before but not quite understand what it doing, and Discord not very populated.
Fokay so
Ffun issue
FglfwShowWindow is causing a access violation
Fassuming im reading the stack trace correctly
Pnope
