Silk.NET•3y ago

i think the past 2 weeks have been the most varied programming wise ive been in years lol

LLyris the Kitori i think the past 2 weeks have been the most varied programming wise ive been in ...

TechPizza•1/15/23, 9:53 PM

you know what would be cool? if it counted the amount of time you wrote c# xmldoc

TechPizza•1/15/23, 9:53 PM

also what did you waste 4 hours on LUA for angryturtle

Lyris the KitoriOP•1/15/23, 9:53 PM

writing OpenComputers control systems

TechPizza•1/15/23, 9:53 PM

ok, you are 101% forgiven

Lyris the KitoriOP•1/15/23, 9:53 PM

i tried using the C# -> Lua transpiler but i couldnt get it to work in opencomputers or computercraft

Lyris the KitoriOP•1/15/23, 9:57 PM

if someone knows how to get that to work i will give you a 20 pesos bill i use as a bookmark

Nitrous•1/16/23, 2:48 AM

fun

Lyris the KitoriOP•1/16/23, 2:48 AM

remove obj and bin folders

Nitrous•1/16/23, 2:49 AM

SilkTouch took its time generating

Nitrous•1/16/23, 2:49 AM

seems fine now

Lyris the KitoriOP•1/16/23, 2:50 AM

source generator moment

Nitrous•1/16/23, 2:50 AM

i think it generated everything since its a fresh clone

flyke•1/16/23, 2:47 PM

I watched Monogame tutorial, and app structure looks quite similat to Slik.Net app. Never used it before, was curios, because it on C# and GL. Is Monogame any good to learn something, or it is outdated?

ZaBlazzingZephyrus•1/16/23, 2:47 PM

MonoGame is actually pretty good

Aqua•1/16/23, 2:47 PM

monogame is a framework
it does a lot of the stuff for you

AAqua monogame is a framework it does a lot of the stuff for you

ZaBlazzingZephyrus•1/16/23, 2:47 PM

Doesn't mean it's bad

ZaBlazzingZephyrus•1/16/23, 2:48 PM

Frameworks, engines, bindings and etc. are just tools anyways

ZaBlazzingZephyrus•1/16/23, 2:48 PM

Different stuff suits different people, nothing bad bout it

Aqua•1/16/23, 2:48 PM

you can use the lower level stuff sure, but its based on DX9, which is a bit of an issue
not too bad though, sprite renderer and stuff is done for you already, and there's some built in 3D stuff but just avoid the built in 3D stuff like the plague

ZZaBlazzingZephyrus Doesn't mean it's bad

Aqua•1/16/23, 2:48 PM

never said it was

ZZaBlazzingZephyrus MonoGame is actually pretty good

ZaBlazzingZephyrus•1/16/23, 2:48 PM

BUT its development (at least for me as an observer) seems kinda stagnant..

ZaBlazzingZephyrus•1/16/23, 2:49 PM

Minor bug fix took around two years or so

ZaBlazzingZephyrus•1/16/23, 2:49 PM

Without any major features

ZaBlazzingZephyrus•1/16/23, 2:49 PM

I know it's most likely fine, just wanna point out it's not in the most active development most likely

ZaBlazzingZephyrus•1/16/23, 2:49 PM

But it DOES have a pretty active community

Aqua•1/16/23, 2:50 PM

its because as a framework monogame is basically feature complete at this point. the only thing that needs doing is bug fixes and those are few and far between

Aqua•1/16/23, 2:51 PM

they are really waiting now on the FNA team to improve their graphics stuff for vulkan and whatever and then i believe mg will be switching to an FNA-provided backend.
cpt-max's compute fork is what really gives mg some life now and everyone is waiting for whenever that will be merged in which probably won't be for a while, especially since mg is still stuck on c# 5 for BRUTE compatibility, while the compute fork uses like c# 9 or smth like that

ZaBlazzingZephyrus•1/16/23, 2:52 PM

Well that's pretty complicated...

ZaBlazzingZephyrus•1/16/23, 2:52 PM

Oh btw

ZaBlazzingZephyrus•1/16/23, 2:52 PM

About compilation

ZaBlazzingZephyrus•1/16/23, 2:52 PM

Is Silk fine with AOT compilation?

Aqua•1/16/23, 2:52 PM

yes

ZaBlazzingZephyrus•1/16/23, 2:52 PM

Wanted to try it out some time later

AAqua nice vortice didnt work (it seems to use reflection *l o l*) but silk worked fi...

Aqua•1/16/23, 2:52 PM

this is running under AOT

ZaBlazzingZephyrus•1/16/23, 2:53 PM

Ooo interesting

ZaBlazzingZephyrus•1/16/23, 2:53 PM

Definitely looking forward to checking that out later

ZaBlazzingZephyrus•1/16/23, 2:53 PM

(ugh..)

Aqua•1/16/23, 2:53 PM

its not hard to do. just avoid anything involving reflection unless you follow the specific set of rules

Aqua•1/16/23, 2:54 PM

reflection is possible but it's extremely limited and you need to tell it what you want to reflect

Aqua•1/16/23, 2:54 PM

i had little luck with it but that's because i'm reflecting entire classes atm during development

ZaBlazzingZephyrus•1/16/23, 2:54 PM

Oh what do you use Reflection for?

Aqua•1/16/23, 2:55 PM

currently the definition files are stored as XML for ease of development. they'll eventually be moved to a binary format which means reflection will no longer be required

Aqua•1/16/23, 2:55 PM

i couldn't get the xml deserializer to work, although i've heard JSON might work so

AAqua currently the definition files are stored as XML for ease of development. they'l...

ZaBlazzingZephyrus•1/16/23, 2:55 PM

Oh I see

ZaBlazzingZephyrus•1/16/23, 2:56 PM

That's hm awfully specific

ZaBlazzingZephyrus•1/16/23, 2:56 PM

But whatever it is you're using it for I hope it's going well atm!

AAqua monogame is a framework it does a lot of the stuff for you

flyke•1/16/23, 2:58 PM

Yes, I saw it has similar classes that I need, like Texture etc.

Aqua•1/16/23, 2:58 PM

a fair bit of .net is built on reflection so avoiding it is not easy at times
you just have to be wary of what does and what doesn't work
for example everything involving AssemblyAssembly and GetType()GetType() and stuff uses reflection.
fortunately the AOT compiler stores this stuff ahead of time so this stuff should actually still work
but the dynamic stuff like i'm doing that can't be calculated ahead of time isn't possible
so you just need to be wary of what will and won't work

ZaBlazzingZephyrus•1/16/23, 2:59 PM

Oh that doesn't seem too bad

ZaBlazzingZephyrus•1/16/23, 2:59 PM

I'm glad both JIT and AOT exist

i think the past 2 weeks have been the most varied programming wise ive been in years lol

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