The good thing is those parts are easily replaceable, on the other hand metal I agree, is desirable,

The good thing is those parts are easily replaceable, on the other hand metal I agree, is desirable, just haven't figured out how realize them without introducing significant cost yet. CNCing them would be quite expensive I believe. I imagine WW adapter would cost 100€ instead of 35€ in that case

ddrake1984•1/17/23, 7:14 AM

Oh yeah, it would be expensive, let me know if it’s something you would consider

CraptakulaR•1/17/23, 7:16 AM

When my order is eventually built. I will have the opportunity to order a monster.tech plate?

CraptakulaR•1/17/23, 7:16 AM

I did not add any options to the initial google pre-order form

CCraptakulaR When my order is eventually built. I will have the opportunity to order a monste...

walmisOP•1/17/23, 7:30 AM

Sure. I use the preorder form to gauge how much stuff I will need in advance

CraptakulaR•1/17/23, 7:31 AM

Thanks, There are 210 Rhino orders before me. Do you think I will get one winter 2023 or early 2024?

CraptakulaR•1/17/23, 7:32 AM

Only asking as still using a Thurstmaster 1600m cheap joystick and do not really want to order a better interim joystick if my Rhino order is only a few months away... but if it is 12 mmonths or more I may have to as I need more buttons

Wwalmis The good thing is those parts are easily replaceable, on the other hand metal I ...

Vulcan•1/17/23, 7:37 AM

Is it easy to disassemble the winwing adapter and solder on some wires if we want to try to integrate it into a metal extension or is it sealed up tight?

VVulcan Is it easy to disassemble the winwing adapter and solder on some wires if we wan...

walmisOP•1/17/23, 7:37 AM

I can sell only a PCB too

walmisOP•1/17/23, 7:39 AM

the finished adapter core is like a capsule of two connectors with the PCB in between, 5 pin male on one end, 6pin female on the other

walmisOP•1/17/23, 7:44 AM

overall it looks like this, with two clamping rings

FlatSpin•1/17/23, 7:47 AM

@craptakularuk he has stated he'd like to produce around 100 units per year (do the math) unless he's able to ramp up production in the future.

Wwalmis the finished adapter core is like a capsule of two connectors with the PCB in be...

TrigaNZ•1/17/23, 9:15 AM

So it will work with the WW extension?

TrigaNZ•1/17/23, 9:19 AM

ddrake1984•1/17/23, 9:42 AM

Yeah, the bottom part

ddrake1984•1/17/23, 9:43 AM

Im just worried with costant grip changes, metal beats plastic and will start to dissintegrate it

ddrake1984•1/17/23, 9:43 AM

If you accidentaly missthread it, consider the plastic ruined

TTrigaNZ Click to see attachment

walmisOP•1/17/23, 10:31 AM

You could extend either the TM end or WW end, both options would work

walmisOP•1/17/23, 2:05 PM

Hey guys, a little bit of good news! Currently working from home and made a proof of concept Python framework/app based on SimShaker telemetry that will allow to easily work with telemetry based effects per aircraft/aircraft class. Planning to release it open source on github

leninjahd•1/17/23, 2:46 PM

Is the VPForce Configurator Open Source?

Lleninjahd Is the VPForce Configurator Open Source?

walmisOP•1/17/23, 2:49 PM

leninjahd•1/17/23, 2:57 PM

Oh okay

Wwalmis No

leninjahd•1/17/23, 2:58 PM

are there plans on making it open source?

walmisOP•1/17/23, 3:03 PM

Nope, it's very tightly integrated with the firmware anyways

Wwalmis Nope, it's very tightly integrated with the firmware anyways

leninjahd•1/17/23, 3:35 PM

Okay, I wanted to try to code a slave feature

walmisOP•1/17/23, 3:38 PM

You don't need that configurator app, It doesn't do any actual FFB

walmisOP•1/17/23, 3:39 PM

The quick start to FFB is with SDL2 library: https://wiki.libsdl.org/SDL2/CategoryForceFeedback

SDL2/CategoryForceFeedback

The Simple Directmedia Layer Wiki

walmisOP•1/17/23, 3:40 PM

which I'm using now to build the telemetry effects

Wwalmis The quick start to FFB is with SDL2 library: https://wiki.libsdl.org/SDL2/Catego...

leninjahd•1/17/23, 4:14 PM

So i could write a program which takes the inputs from rhino A and sends them as effects to rhino B?

walmisOP•1/17/23, 4:16 PM

yep

leninjahd•1/17/23, 4:32 PM

Alright, just need to learn C

walmisOP•1/17/23, 4:32 PM

No need, SDL has bindings for most languages

walmisOP•1/17/23, 4:33 PM

fastest way is using python:

pip install pysdl2 pysdl2-dll

pip install pysdl2 pysdl2-dll

and ready to go

Wwalmis fastest way is using python: `pip install pysdl2 pysdl2-dll` and ready to go 🙂

leninjahd•1/17/23, 4:41 PM

Alright, ill try to code something

leninjahd•1/17/23, 5:01 PM

@walmis It cant seem to find the stick

leninjahd•1/17/23, 5:01 PM

walmisOP•1/17/23, 5:09 PM

Try this:

def find_haptic_joystick():
    for i in range(0, SDL_NumJoysticks()):
        joy = SDL_JoystickOpen(i)
        try:
            if SDL_JoystickIsHaptic(joy):
                logging.info(f"Found FFB: {SDL_JoystickName(joy)} index {i}")
                break
        finally:
            SDL_JoystickClose(joy)
    return i

def find_haptic_joystick():
    for i in range(0, SDL_NumJoysticks()):
        joy = SDL_JoystickOpen(i)
        try:
            if SDL_JoystickIsHaptic(joy):
                logging.info(f"Found FFB: {SDL_JoystickName(joy)} index {i}")
                break
        finally:
            SDL_JoystickClose(joy)
    return i

walmisOP•1/17/23, 5:11 PM

also tune down master gain when testing untested FFB code to avoid breaking something

Wwalmis Try this: ``` def find_haptic_joystick(): for i in range(0, SDL_NumJoysticks...

leninjahd•1/17/23, 5:15 PM

its not finding anything

leninjahd•1/17/23, 5:15 PM

but windows Finds the joystick

leninjahd•1/17/23, 5:21 PM

NumJoysticks is zero lol

walmisOP•1/17/23, 5:21 PM

you probably didn't init SDL

walmisOP•1/17/23, 5:22 PM

SDL_Init(SDL_INIT_JOYSTICK)
SDL_Init(SDL_INIT_HAPTIC)

walmisOP•1/17/23, 5:22 PM

add these at the start

leninjahd•1/17/23, 5:22 PM

yep that was it ty

walmisOP•1/17/23, 7:20 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUWgzzZ_YPw

Oh wow this guy really knows how to make epic DCS cinematics

YouTubeAdrián Caparzo

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walmisOP•1/17/23, 7:53 PM

Added ETL shaking effects during the transitional speed region for helos

ddrake1984•1/17/23, 8:48 PM

Ooh, noice! I thought the deficiency with helicopter effects was due to the module and not the FFB base

Dddrake1984 Ooh, noice! I thought the deficiency with helicopter effects was due to the modu...

walmisOP•1/17/23, 9:34 PM

It's exactly the case, these effects are based on the DCS telemetry data

walmisOP•1/17/23, 9:38 PM

I'm doing the stuff module devs should have done lol

Wwalmis I'm doing the stuff module devs should have done lol

ddrake1984•1/17/23, 9:39 PM

Oh, hahaha you friggin legend

def find_haptic_joystick(): for i in range(0, SDL_NumJoysticks()): joy = SDL_JoystickOpen(i) try: if SDL_JoystickIsHaptic(joy): logging.info(f"Found FFB: {SDL_JoystickName(joy)} index {i}") break finally: SDL_JoystickClose(joy) return i

The good thing is those parts are easily replaceable, on the other hand metal I agree, is desirable,

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