Try this: ``` def find_haptic_joystick(): for i in range(0, SDL_NumJoysticks()): joy = S

Try this:

def find_haptic_joystick():
    for i in range(0, SDL_NumJoysticks()):
        joy = SDL_JoystickOpen(i)
        try:
            if SDL_JoystickIsHaptic(joy):
                logging.info(f"Found FFB: {SDL_JoystickName(joy)} index {i}")
                break
        finally:
            SDL_JoystickClose(joy)
    return i

def find_haptic_joystick():
    for i in range(0, SDL_NumJoysticks()):
        joy = SDL_JoystickOpen(i)
        try:
            if SDL_JoystickIsHaptic(joy):
                logging.info(f"Found FFB: {SDL_JoystickName(joy)} index {i}")
                break
        finally:
            SDL_JoystickClose(joy)
    return i

def find_haptic_joystick():
    for i in range(0, SDL_NumJoysticks()):
        joy = SDL_JoystickOpen(i)
        try:
            if SDL_JoystickIsHaptic(joy):
                logging.info(f"Found FFB: {SDL_JoystickName(joy)} index {i}")
                break
        finally:
            SDL_JoystickClose(joy)
    return i

def find_haptic_joystick():
    for i in range(0, SDL_NumJoysticks()):
        joy = SDL_JoystickOpen(i)
        try:
            if SDL_JoystickIsHaptic(joy):
                logging.info(f"Found FFB: {SDL_JoystickName(joy)} index {i}")
                break
        finally:
            SDL_JoystickClose(joy)
    return i

walmisOP•1/17/23, 5:11 PM

also tune down master gain when testing untested FFB code to avoid breaking something

Wwalmis Try this: ``` def find_haptic_joystick(): for i in range(0, SDL_NumJoysticks...

leninjahd•1/17/23, 5:15 PM

its not finding anything

leninjahd•1/17/23, 5:15 PM

but windows Finds the joystick

leninjahd•1/17/23, 5:21 PM

NumJoysticks is zero lol

walmisOP•1/17/23, 5:21 PM

you probably didn't init SDL

walmisOP•1/17/23, 5:22 PM

SDL_Init(SDL_INIT_JOYSTICK)
SDL_Init(SDL_INIT_HAPTIC)

walmisOP•1/17/23, 5:22 PM

add these at the start

leninjahd•1/17/23, 5:22 PM

yep that was it ty

walmisOP•1/17/23, 7:20 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUWgzzZ_YPw

Oh wow this guy really knows how to make epic DCS cinematics

YouTubeAdrián Caparzo

SATAC 22 Trailer

SATAC 22
Organizers:
51PVO/KIAP100 - https://discord.gg/36vYv2jHpb
SATAC Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@satac4310

Sponsors:
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Razbam Simulation - https://www.razbams...

walmisOP•1/17/23, 7:53 PM

Added ETL shaking effects during the transitional speed region for helos

ddrake1984•1/17/23, 8:48 PM

Ooh, noice! I thought the deficiency with helicopter effects was due to the module and not the FFB base

Dddrake1984 Ooh, noice! I thought the deficiency with helicopter effects was due to the modu...

walmisOP•1/17/23, 9:34 PM

It's exactly the case, these effects are based on the DCS telemetry data

walmisOP•1/17/23, 9:38 PM

I'm doing the stuff module devs should have done lol

Wwalmis I'm doing the stuff module devs should have done lol

ddrake1984•1/17/23, 9:39 PM

Oh, hahaha you friggin legend

Magpie•1/17/23, 10:46 PM

Hey I was asking in the razbam discord if they can implement the same bump you feel in the F5 when you press through the aileron limiter.

In the m2000, despite being FBW there's an elastic limit that takes 40kg of force to pull through. It then let's the plane pitch up at a higher aoa I think, maybe breaking the jet though.

Kind of like the lever in the f18

Anyway he says he's willing to look into it but I'm not well versed enough in the mechanics of ffb to describe how the F5 makes that bump. Can anyone help?

Magpie•1/17/23, 10:46 PM

Magpie•1/17/23, 10:46 PM

Galinette#7116

Magpie•1/17/23, 10:46 PM

https://discord.gg/c6Pfb4pw

Magpie•1/17/23, 10:47 PM

I was discussing it in the m2000 thread

leninjahd•1/17/23, 10:49 PM

!status

Lleninjahd !status

VPforceBot•1/17/23, 10:49 PM

Hey @leninjahd,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0036 on 2023-01-12
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 102 days, median is 110 days, max is 183 days
34 Rhinos are shipped in total

Beathmeister•1/18/23, 2:29 AM

For those with Rhinos, what grip would you recommend for various DCS modules? I have a Virpil VFX (with 200mm extension) for use with the F-14 module and a TM Warthog (which I was planning to use for a dedicated F-16 setup with a FSSB-R3 when I’m ready to take the plunge on that). Is it worth getting another grip for use with the F/A-18, AV-8, helis etc.?

Magpie•1/18/23, 2:33 AM

I just have a Cosmo (I think it's called) with the extension. You'll need more 4 way hats for the A10 and f18 than the f14 grip can provide

MMagpie I just have a Cosmo (I think it's called) with the extension. You'll need more 4...

ddrake1984•1/18/23, 3:35 AM

You have a Constellation Alpha

Magpie•1/18/23, 3:35 AM

ddrake1984•1/18/23, 3:35 AM

With a 200mm extension

TrigaNZ•1/18/23, 3:44 AM

I'm going to get the WW F-16 EX (with extra module) and an extension.

TTrigaNZ I'm going to get the WW F-16 EX (with extra module) and an extension.

ddrake1984•1/18/23, 4:14 AM

Its lighter than the Thrustmaster Warthog from memory, so would be better for FFB

Dddrake1984 Its lighter than the Thrustmaster Warthog from memory, so would be better for FF...

TrigaNZ•1/18/23, 6:47 AM

I had a CH years ago and liked the switches etc. With the extra switches on the side I recon it will cover all a bases for me.

MMagpie I was discussing it in the m2000 thread

Boggy•1/18/23, 8:10 AM

Wait...does the Mirage have a FFB profile?

Magpie•1/18/23, 8:10 AM

No but if we help him he will try to add it

Magpie•1/18/23, 8:11 AM

It should be pretty easy because it's fbw and then just has a bump of higher force at the bottom of the pitch axis

Magpie•1/18/23, 8:12 AM

Kinda like the F5 has on either side of the roll axis

Magpie•1/18/23, 8:13 AM

And hopefully if they knock over that low hanging fruit it breaks the seal for the other razbam modules.

Idk if the F15 got FBW in it's upgrade

Magpie•1/18/23, 8:13 AM

F15e I mean

Magpie•1/18/23, 8:13 AM

Cos I bet it comes out without a profile

Boggy•1/18/23, 8:29 AM

Yeh, hopefully it would be a start for other modules too then. I doubt the F15 will come with a FFB profile.

Magpie•1/18/23, 8:37 AM

Got my spare demo rhinos hanging around @walmis that you could loan out to razbam?

Magpie•1/18/23, 8:58 AM

We should crowd fund one if you don’t and rotate it around willing developers

MMagpie Hey I was asking in the razbam discord if they can implement the same bump you f...

Virus•1/18/23, 10:20 AM

With the Razbam modules the FFB doesn't work....ok the M-2000 is FBW, but the AV8 and Mig-19 doesn't have the moving trim implemented....I hope they won't do the same with the f-15e

Magpie•1/18/23, 10:21 AM

Yeah so he says if we can tell him how it works he’ll add ffb to then m2000 for the elastic limit

Magpie•1/18/23, 10:21 AM

I’m just not smart enough to tell him how it works

Virus•1/18/23, 10:23 AM

Honestly I don't know about the m-2000...but the stick moving with trim is pretty easy to implement...It took just 1 hour to Duke (IFE) to implement it for the MB339 when I asked him....It just they are lazy or don't listen to the (too few) people in the FFB sticks community

VVirus Honestly I don't know about the m-2000...but the stick moving with trim is prett...

Phantom•1/18/23, 10:39 AM

Been having that battle for a decade or more.....

BBeathmeister For those with Rhinos, what grip would you recommend for various DCS modules? I ...

PiNKSH!T•1/18/23, 12:23 PM

The Virpil T-50CM2 'Russian style' grip or the VKB Modern Combat Grip Pro/Ultimate which is the same 'Russian style' have heaps of HATS & buttons upto 5 hat switches, 4 push buttons, 2 stage trigger, flip down trigger with button press when 'flicking' up plus the trigger stage & the brake axis lever too. I have the VKB MCGU & it's a beast of a stick, really the only stick you'd need, I don't thnk the Virpil has a z axis twist I know the MCGU has the option for a lockable twist. Also if you're keen on a force sensing base why not check out the Winwing Moveable Force Sensing Stick Base?

DeltaVJ•1/18/23, 3:40 PM

Mcgu is the best, far ahead of the virpil, Thrustmaster f18 IS really good to but have less button

PPiNKSH!T The Virpil T-50CM2 'Russian style' grip or the VKB Modern Combat Grip Pro/Ultima...

Beathmeister•1/19/23, 3:54 AM

I don’t think the WinWing FSSBs have shipped yet. It will be interesting to see how they stack up against the RealSim model once the comparison reviews start coming in. Thanks for the info about the other sticks.

skyPickle•1/19/23, 5:08 AM

Does the virpil software serve any purpose if a virpil grip is attached to a Rhino> Does the Virpil grip have a microcontoller in it or is everything in the base?

FlatSpin•1/19/23, 6:12 AM

Per Walmis virpil and thrustmaster grips are fully supported. The controller is in the virpil bases. You only need the software for firmware upgrades of their bases and if you own the control panels as far as I know.

SskyPickle Does the virpil software serve any purpose if a virpil grip is attached to a Rhi...

aniron•1/19/23, 11:28 AM

The Virpil grip has electronics. I thought the VPForce electronics could use the Virpil and TM grips without a passthrough to their respective stick base, unlike with VKB grips that needs a "blackbox" controller

Try this: ``` def find_haptic_joystick(): for i in range(0, SDL_NumJoysticks()): joy = S

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