Ooh, noice! I thought the deficiency with helicopter effects was due to the module and not the FFB b
Ooh, noice! I thought the deficiency with helicopter effects was due to the module and not the FFB base
WIt's exactly the case, these effects are based on the DCS telemetry data
WI'm doing the stuff module devs should have done lol
DOh, hahaha you friggin legend
MHey I was asking in the razbam discord if they can implement the same bump you feel in the F5 when you press through the aileron limiter.
In the m2000, despite being FBW there's an elastic limit that takes 40kg of force to pull through. It then let's the plane pitch up at a higher aoa I think, maybe breaking the jet though.
Kind of like the lever in the f18
Anyway he says he's willing to look into it but I'm not well versed enough in the mechanics of ffb to describe how the F5 makes that bump. Can anyone help?
In the m2000, despite being FBW there's an elastic limit that takes 40kg of force to pull through. It then let's the plane pitch up at a higher aoa I think, maybe breaking the jet though.
Kind of like the lever in the f18
Anyway he says he's willing to look into it but I'm not well versed enough in the mechanics of ffb to describe how the F5 makes that bump. Can anyone help?
M
MGalinette#7116
MMI was discussing it in the m2000 thread
L!status
VHey @leninjahd,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0036 on 2023-01-12
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 102 days, median is 110 days, max is 183 days
34 Rhinos are shipped in total
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0036 on 2023-01-12
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 102 days, median is 110 days, max is 183 days
34 Rhinos are shipped in total
BFor those with Rhinos, what grip would you recommend for various DCS modules? I have a Virpil VFX (with 200mm extension) for use with the F-14 module and a TM Warthog (which I was planning to use for a dedicated F-16 setup with a FSSB-R3 when I’m ready to take the plunge on that). Is it worth getting another grip for use with the F/A-18, AV-8, helis etc.?
MI just have a Cosmo (I think it's called) with the extension. You'll need more 4 way hats for the A10 and f18 than the f14 grip can provide
DYou have a Constellation Alpha
M
DWith a 200mm extension
TI'm going to get the WW F-16 EX (with extra module) and an extension.
DIts lighter than the Thrustmaster Warthog from memory, so would be better for FFB
TI had a CH years ago and liked the switches etc. With the extra switches on the side I recon it will cover all a bases for me.
BWait...does the Mirage have a FFB profile?
MNo but if we help him he will try to add it
MIt should be pretty easy because it's fbw and then just has a bump of higher force at the bottom of the pitch axis
MKinda like the F5 has on either side of the roll axis
MAnd hopefully if they knock over that low hanging fruit it breaks the seal for the other razbam modules.
Idk if the F15 got FBW in it's upgrade
Idk if the F15 got FBW in it's upgrade
MF15e I mean
MCos I bet it comes out without a profile
BYeh, hopefully it would be a start for other modules too then. I doubt the F15 will come with a FFB profile.
MGot my spare demo rhinos hanging around @walmis that you could loan out to razbam?
MWe should crowd fund one if you don’t and rotate it around willing developers
VWith the Razbam modules the FFB doesn't work....ok the M-2000 is FBW, but the AV8 and Mig-19 doesn't have the moving trim implemented....I hope they won't do the same with the f-15e
MYeah so he says if we can tell him how it works he’ll add ffb to then m2000 for the elastic limit
MI’m just not smart enough to tell him how it works
VHonestly I don't know about the m-2000...but the stick moving with trim is pretty easy to implement...It took just 1 hour to Duke (IFE) to implement it for the MB339 when I asked him....It just they are lazy or don't listen to the (too few) people in the FFB sticks community
PBeen having that battle for a decade or more.....
PThe Virpil T-50CM2 'Russian style' grip or the VKB Modern Combat Grip Pro/Ultimate which is the same 'Russian style' have heaps of HATS & buttons upto 5 hat switches, 4 push buttons, 2 stage trigger, flip down trigger with button press when 'flicking' up plus the trigger stage & the brake axis lever too. I have the VKB MCGU & it's a beast of a stick, really the only stick you'd need, I don't thnk the Virpil has a z axis twist I know the MCGU has the option for a lockable twist. Also if you're keen on a force sensing base why not check out the Winwing Moveable Force Sensing Stick Base?
DMcgu is the best, far ahead of the virpil, Thrustmaster f18 IS really good to but have less button
BI don’t think the WinWing FSSBs have shipped yet. It will be interesting to see how they stack up against the RealSim model once the comparison reviews start coming in. Thanks for the info about the other sticks.
SDoes the virpil software serve any purpose if a virpil grip is attached to a Rhino> Does the Virpil grip have a microcontoller in it or is everything in the base?
FPer Walmis virpil and thrustmaster grips are fully supported. The controller is in the virpil bases. You only need the software for firmware upgrades of their bases and if you own the control panels as far as I know.
AThe Virpil grip has electronics. I thought the VPForce electronics could use the Virpil and TM grips without a passthrough to their respective stick base, unlike with VKB grips that needs a "blackbox" controller
WYep, that's true
AThus, no need for Virpil software?
WNo need
ASo… can VPC grips use the VPC software whilst mounted on a Rhino base?
WThat's a negative.
WGrips are dumb per se. VPC grips work as emulated shift-registers basically. All the magic is done in VPC base and PC software.
AI see, thanks!
ADoes the Rhino software have some software with similar capabilities? E.g. can it be used to make flipping the flip up/down trigger into recognising it being flipped up as opposed to flipped down (and vise versa)?
WRhino has basic button remapping support atm and advanced features best be done with software such as JoystickGremlin
BI plan on using different grips (VFX, TM WH and maybe another) with the Rhino. What is the best way to “tell” DCS that I have swapped grips on the Rhino so that I don’t have to remap manually? Joystick Gremlin? Is there any way to do it without that?
WYou could change Rhino product ID and Name in the configurator, DCS would detect it as a separate device