@walmis any chance we could change the gun vibration to longitudinal (forward/backward) movement onl

@walmis any chance we could change the gun vibration to longitudinal (forward/backward) movement only? At the moment it feels like a diagonal movement. I think forward/backward might be more realistic?

Also stores/bomb drop maybe a lateral movement might be more realistic?

Rroller25.@walmis any chance we could change the gun vibration to longitudinal (forward/ba...

walmis•1/29/23, 7:15 AM

Yeah, it's diagonal right now, you can change the angles here, all are set to 45 now, 0 would be front-back, 90 sideways: https://github.com/walmis/VPforce-TelemFFB/blob/master/aircrafts.py#L130

Wwalmis Yeah, it's diagonal right now, you can change the angles here, all are set to 45...

roller25.OP•1/29/23, 7:20 AM

Great! I will have a play

Polack-1•1/29/23, 1:38 PM

Man, the hype is getting to me. I'm squeezing that money like I'm about to throw it walmis' direction any moment now

Wwalmis Yeah, it's diagonal right now, you can change the angles here, all are set to 45...

roller25.OP•1/30/23, 12:48 AM

Works perfect. Only issue with F/A-18 is no weapon release effect coming through. CM and guns working fine.

walmis•1/30/23, 6:40 AM

thanks, I will take a look what's up with F-18 weapon release

Phantom•1/30/23, 12:18 PM

@walmis how much can be controlled in terms of fx if the developer hasn't implemented all the bells and whistles their end ? just out of interest ??

PPhantom @walmis how much can be controlled in terms of fx if the developer hasn't implem...

walmis•1/30/23, 12:22 PM

You mean via telemetry? Almost everything, there's full access to the hardware FFB features

Magpie•1/30/23, 12:34 PM

What is telemetry?

walmis•1/30/23, 12:35 PM

DCS can export live data about what's going on: https://wiki.hoggitworld.com/view/DCS_export

DCS World Wiki - Hoggitworld.com

DCS export

walmis•1/30/23, 12:36 PM

We can use this to add additional FFB effects

Phantom•1/30/23, 12:45 PM

great stuff, thanks

Magpie•1/30/23, 12:53 PM

Ah cool. I wonder if it adds any lag or stuttering

walmis•1/30/23, 1:36 PM

nope, it runs in a separate process

VPforceBot•1/30/23, 1:55 PM

:package: RHINO #0042 Has Shipped!

Boggy•1/30/23, 3:42 PM

Only 130 to go before I get mine.

the_r0flcopter•1/30/23, 4:07 PM

Only 61 here

GitHub•1/30/23, 6:35 PM

walmis

[VPforce-TelemFFB:master] 1 new commit

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Rroller25.Works perfect. Only issue with F/A-18 is no weapon release effect coming through...

walmis•1/30/23, 6:53 PM

Fixed

Wwalmis Fixed 👆

roller25.OP•1/30/23, 8:03 PM

Brilliant! Will try it out soon

Virus•1/30/23, 8:06 PM

I have tried the telemetry app...well it has a lot of potential...and in complement with simshaker it is really something

VVirus I have tried the telemetry app...well it has a lot of potential...and in complem...

Mike (Mugs)•1/30/23, 10:20 PM

agree really enjoying this, for me the aoa buffeting really helps in the F18 to get a good feel for the best turn perf

Wwalmis Fixed 👆

roller25.OP•1/31/23, 1:32 AM

Works great! Tuned a few settings for the F18 and loving it so far. Big potential here

Rroller25.Works great! Tuned a few settings for the F18 and loving it so far. Big potentia...

walmis•1/31/23, 5:02 AM

Do share your changes, I'll integrate into the main branch

PiNKSH!T•1/31/23, 5:56 AM

Would something like this be possible for other games? msfs2020 is the main one I'm thinking of?

walmis•1/31/23, 6:08 AM

yeah, the same framework can be used to integrate SimConnect telemetry also

Virus•1/31/23, 6:09 AM

I did not dig into it yet, but it is possible to implement moving trim for modules which should have and doesn't support it (like the harrier and the mig-19...yes all by razbam)

VVirus I did not dig into it yet, but it is possible to implement moving trim for modul...

walmis•1/31/23, 6:11 AM

I haven't figured out yet how to get trim values from DCS export.lua, not sure if at all possible.

Virus•1/31/23, 6:15 AM

Well I think maybe you should get in contact with razbam as my IFE friends showed me it's easy to implement moving trim...with the 339 they did just in one hour work

walmis•1/31/23, 6:16 AM

But that's internal to the module

walmis•1/31/23, 6:16 AM

I imagine it would be tricky to control trim externally

VVirus I did not dig into it yet, but it is possible to implement moving trim for modul...

PiNKSH!T•1/31/23, 6:21 AM

RAZBAM, I asked them on their Discord about what FFB the F-15 E will come out with, his reply gave me no hope, he wasn't even sure if the F-15 was fly-by-wire or not, it's not only the newest Saudi version is. When I told him it wasn't fly-by-wire he informed me I should do the research of what effects the pilot would of felt by asking people in their discord, yeah so very low expectations from Razbam. Although now that Walmis has made this awesome DCS telemetry effects app I guess it doesn't matter what they do or don't add

Virus•1/31/23, 6:22 AM

I know

Virus•1/31/23, 6:22 AM

But no one is asking them fancy effects

Virus•1/31/23, 6:22 AM

For that we can use telemetry

Virus•1/31/23, 6:23 AM

But the basics....the moving trim is essential

walmis•1/31/23, 6:23 AM

Yeah, they could implement this even with an old MSFF2

ddrake1984•1/31/23, 6:39 AM

the fact you can get the telem for most aircraft is really cool

VPforceBot•1/31/23, 7:13 AM

:package: RHINO #0043 Has Shipped!

amadeus•1/31/23, 7:24 AM

https://tenor.com/view/damn-shookt-shocked-gif-5580082

Tenor

Daaaaamn

amadeus•1/31/23, 7:25 AM

These things flyin off the shelves

Wwalmis I imagine it would be tricky to control trim externally

roller25.OP•1/31/23, 8:35 AM

Could there be a solution like how XPForce implements trim for MSFS2020 maybe?

NITE 107 | Snake•1/31/23, 8:36 AM

For A/C where trim works by moving the stick could we eliminate the game entirely and just bind the trim keys and use that to move the virtual center point?

NITE 107 | Snake•1/31/23, 8:37 AM

Then we could use something like the spring effect to give more force needed for greater deflections and still “feel” trim by moving the neutral position

NITE 107 | Snake•1/31/23, 8:37 AM

Only major downside is we would need a reset button to for respawn

skyPickle•1/31/23, 5:36 PM

I noticed the Apache is missing from the TelemFFB config.ini. Is this intentional?

SskyPickle I noticed the Apache is missing from the TelemFFB config.ini. Is this intentiona...

walmis•1/31/23, 5:41 PM

no, it needs to be populated. As it's open source patches are welcome

skyPickle•1/31/23, 5:46 PM

ok, where does on find the necessary arguments to put in the 'get_argument_value' call?

skyPickle•1/31/23, 5:48 PM

for example , where did you find them for the Dora?

walmis•1/31/23, 5:54 PM

this is an entire can of worms - you have to search through module lua files: for example cockpit arguments are listed in (for mig-21) "DCS World\Mods\aircraft\MIG-21bis\Cockpit\mainpanel_init.lua"

skyPickle•1/31/23, 8:27 PM

OMG. you are a hero for doing the planes you already did. I have written some lua files for the streamdeck plugin CTytler made (This allows a streamdeck to receive data from the module in DCS , display the state of the control in DCS, as well as send data back to DCS to change the state of the control - like flaps, gear, etc). I can look at what you did and reverse engineer the source. There are several identifiers a button can have so it's not always straightforward.

@walmis any chance we could change the gun vibration to longitudinal (forward/backward) movement onl

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