You are re-trimming the control surfaces in a helicopter, repositioning the cyclic that is held by t

You are re-trimming the control surfaces in a helicopter, repositioning the cyclic that is held by the trim motors. In this case just releasing the FFB to reposition.

DrQuinnOP•2/6/23, 5:45 PM

Good to hear that the centering is good enough to hold position in forward flight, the Brunner is lacking in that. Can be compensated for in software but still not perfect.

skyPickle•2/6/23, 6:03 PM

trim in an aircraft was often achieved by moving small secondary surfaces. Modern fly by wire jets have trim the same way that helis do-by adjusting the primary control surfaces' 'neutral position'. My choice of this device was based on its simplicity-works out of the box without software-something that turned me off to winwing as well. Also I have a strong belief in supporting individuals. Most inventions as well as advances in science are made by the individual mind, not corporations or committees.

CLU•2/6/23, 6:08 PM

!stats

CCLU !stats

VPforceBot•2/6/23, 6:08 PM

Hey @clu2606,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0044 on 2023-02-01
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 117 days, median is 116 days, max is 196 days
41 Rhinos are shipped in total

CLU•2/6/23, 6:09 PM

hey all, new owner here. got the package this morning. very surprised at the quality. wont be able to try it out until this weekend but cant wait to get started

CCLU hey all, new owner here. got the package this morning. very surprised at the qua...

Boggy•2/6/23, 6:43 PM

Surprised in a good way or bad?

BBoggy Surprised in a good way or bad? 😉😆

CLU•2/6/23, 6:45 PM

good way

BBoggy Surprised in a good way or bad? 😉😆

Stal2k•2/6/23, 8:37 PM

It's funny, I said the same thing - it's hard to give the compliment without it sounding condescending lol. I guess what I meant was I was expecting a very functional piece of hardware that was constructed with 3d printed material and wood.

Stal2k•2/6/23, 8:39 PM

As someone that does woodworking for fun, and owns a 3d printer I'm quite familiar with these materials and how 'premium' they are/are not and based on getting stick #37 I was pleasantly surprised. The wood has a nice acrylic paint that really hides the fact it's plywood in all but the edges, and only if you look/feel really deliberately.

DDrQuinn Good to hear that the centering is good enough to hold position in forward fligh...

ddrake1984•2/6/23, 8:40 PM

For the brief few days I had to play with one of the Rhinos, it was very good for helicopters, the only thing I would have wanted which walmis is working on, is other effects felt through the stick like stall/buffet

DDrQuinn You are re-trimming the control surfaces in a helicopter, repositioning the cycl...

Stal2k•2/6/23, 8:41 PM

Can confirm what SkyPickle said, I've tested mine so far in the Apache, Huey, Hind and it feels great. The force trimming works like you'd expect, and the hat trimmer also moves the position, it's strong enough you don't have to really baby it or work around it if that makes sense.

Stal2k•2/6/23, 8:43 PM

I do think there should be a warning on it for FFB n00bs like me, 1) always keep your hands on the stick when clicking fly and 2) do NOT try out the F-14 without setting the special options. Without checking the box in for the Tomcat in special it slams forward with enough force to kill an infant lol. I didn't have the spacing finalized and it dented the metal on the Winwing DDI placeholders. I guess I got lucky.

ddrake1984•2/6/23, 8:44 PM

@magpiee crashed and the stick wacked him in his nuts, I don’t think he will ever forget

AndyHill•2/6/23, 8:46 PM

if I can choose then yes maybe please rather wack forwards

ddrake1984•2/6/23, 8:49 PM

I would prefer stick to become floppy on a crash

SStal2k I do think there should be a warning on it for FFB n00bs like me, 1) always keep...

Magpie•2/6/23, 8:50 PM

Mig 15 stall needs a warning too

Dddrake1984 @magpiee crashed and the stick wacked him in his nuts, I don’t think he will eve...

Magpie•2/6/23, 8:51 PM

I'm still too scared to fly il2

MMagpie I'm still too scared to fly il2

ddrake1984•2/6/23, 8:52 PM

Until walmis can put in some disengage on crash

Stal2k•2/6/23, 8:52 PM

Yea, actually I could see how that would be very possible lol. I wonder if there is a way with that python program to have the default state carry over the spring or default VPForce settings. I could easily see how easy it would be to hit yourself in the balls.

ddrake1984•2/6/23, 8:53 PM

Maybe ill just wear a groin guard

Stal2k•2/6/23, 8:54 PM

The problem is that it DOES disengage on crash, or at least that is what happened when I had a close call with the pebbles yesterday.

AndyHill•2/6/23, 8:54 PM

I'm not that worried really, if I sit normally there's no stick on stick action even at max deflection

Stal2k•2/6/23, 8:55 PM

So where you are maybe trying to do a deck save and really pulling back, if you DON'T make it and the stick instantly goes floppy (giggity) I could see how easy it'd be to take one to the testes.

Stal2k•2/6/23, 8:56 PM

I don't know which would be worse, doing it like I said or maybe if it's leaned forward and an aggressive module like the Tomcat flings it into you like a hammer because you weren't holding it when you clicked fly.

ddrake1984•2/6/23, 8:56 PM

I can see the headlines now, “flight simmer dreams crushed, with his manhood”

Magpie•2/6/23, 8:57 PM

I have the 20cm extension on it. Sometimes it likes to start rocking back and forth a bit. Somehow it amplifies, kind of like a resonant frequency and within 10 seconds it's smashing from the end of one axis to another

Stal2k•2/6/23, 8:57 PM

It won't be as bad as the dude who was playing with his... joystick... in VR and fell through the table and died. At least that is the bar we have.

Magpie•2/6/23, 8:58 PM

Wdym he fell through the table

MMagpie I have the 20cm extension on it. Sometimes it likes to start rocking back and fo...

Stal2k•2/6/23, 8:59 PM

I have a 3d printed one, and I was still fiddling with the mounting and whatnot so I wasn't sitting in the seat but off to the side. I was watching the quick start video or whatever was talking about the balanced spring, since my extension does offset it a bit and it's just BARELY off-center with the normal spring profile. When I engaged the balanced spring it YEETED my grip across the room and snapped the extension. Totally my fault but was kind of funny. I've learned so many lessons in the past week or so.

Magpie•2/6/23, 8:59 PM

I once put my Sim pit too close to the wall and smashed my face into it when checking 6 lol

Stal2k•2/6/23, 8:59 PM

Pfft if you haven't face planted into your house checking 6 you aren't playing DCS.

AndyHill•2/6/23, 9:00 PM

I sometimes get escalating wack-fuck symptoms when the stick hits endstops without my hand on it

MMagpie Wdym he fell through the table

Stal2k•2/6/23, 9:00 PM

https://www.pcgamer.com/man-dies-in-vr-accident-according-to-russian-news-agency/

AndyHill•2/6/23, 9:01 PM

for example in il-2 with the WW1 planes that have elevator droop modeled so that without airflow it droops down and pulls the stick full forward

Stal2k•2/6/23, 9:02 PM

Ya, I guess it's nice to have some new hardware where I'll have to learn how to not hurt myself or others/property.

AAndyHill for example in il-2 with the WW1 planes that have elevator droop modeled so that...

Magpie•2/6/23, 9:03 PM

Oh wow I haven't tried the WW1 stuff with ffb. @ddrake1984 let's do it when yours comes

MMagpie Oh wow I haven't tried the WW1 stuff with ffb. @ddrake1984 let's do it when you...

ddrake1984•2/6/23, 9:06 PM

Hell yeah, been wanting to fly some old skool birds

ddrake1984•2/6/23, 9:07 PM

Remember to setup a fan in front of you for that extra immersion

Dddrake1984 I would prefer stick to become floppy on a crash

Will3D•2/6/23, 9:32 PM

Maybe we need a spike filter ? Like we have on motion rigs ?

peachmonkey•2/6/23, 9:50 PM

DCS did throw a fit with my RHINO couple of times, while flying the warbirds. The stick was fine when the plane was on the ground, however during a take-off it felt the axis got reversed and FFB effects went ballistic abruptly pushing the stick towards my groin, luckily there's a very useful big red shut-off button on the unit that saves the day. Both times it happened after a continuous 4-5 hour session in DCS (without existing/restarting/etc). Seems like there's yet just another bug with DCS...

Dddrake1984 Remember to setup a fan in front of you for that extra immersion

Magpie•2/6/23, 10:06 PM

Bill does that even with jets. Apparently there a fair bit of air from the air con

MMagpie Bill does that even with jets. Apparently there a fair bit of air from the air c...

ddrake1984•2/6/23, 11:55 PM

For WW1 you will need a scarf

WWill3D Maybe we need a spike filter ? Like we have on motion rigs ?

mechsicko•2/7/23, 12:11 AM

Exactly what I was thinking after seeing ppl talking about nut shots when crashing lol

HornetDRIVER•2/7/23, 2:05 AM

Has anyone flown an ACLS approach in the Tomcat with the Rhino? Will the stick move as the jet makes corrections?

Magpie•2/7/23, 2:13 AM

I've never done ACLS but I'll try tonight
I tried manual reversion in the A10c last night and it was modelled

Magpie•2/7/23, 2:13 AM

Pretty cool

HornetDRIVER•2/7/23, 2:14 AM

That is so cool

HornetDRIVER•2/7/23, 2:14 AM

Let me know what you find regarding the ACLS! I've already put myself in the waiting queue, but if the stick moves with the autopilot that'll be icing on the cake!

Stal2k•2/7/23, 2:22 AM

It probably would, it certainly moves with the trim buttons and the other autopilot modes in the Tomcat, don't see why the ACLS would be any different, but I guess to be fair, dumber things have happened.

Magpie•2/7/23, 2:31 AM

I wish the stick moved in the trainer's or Apache when the pilot moves it

You are re-trimming the control surfaces in a helicopter, repositioning the cyclic that is held by t

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