for example in il-2 with the WW1 planes that have elevator droop modeled so that without airflow it
for example in il-2 with the WW1 planes that have elevator droop modeled so that without airflow it droops down and pulls the stick full forward
SYa, I guess it's nice to have some new hardware where I'll have to learn how to not hurt myself or others/property.
MOh wow I haven't tried the WW1 stuff with ffb. @ddrake1984 let's do it when yours comes
DHell yeah, been wanting to fly some old skool birds
DRemember to setup a fan in front of you for that extra immersion
WMaybe we need a spike filter ? Like we have on motion rigs ?
PDCS did throw a fit with my RHINO couple of times, while flying the warbirds. The stick was fine when the plane was on the ground, however during a take-off it felt the axis got reversed and FFB effects went ballistic abruptly pushing the stick towards my groin, luckily there's a very useful big red shut-off button on the unit that saves the day. Both times it happened after a continuous 4-5 hour session in DCS (without existing/restarting/etc). Seems like there's yet just another bug with DCS...
MBill does that even with jets. Apparently there a fair bit of air from the air con
DFor WW1 you will need a scarf
MExactly what I was thinking after seeing ppl talking about nut shots when crashing lol
HHas anyone flown an ACLS approach in the Tomcat with the Rhino? Will the stick move as the jet makes corrections?
MI've never done ACLS but I'll try tonight
I tried manual reversion in the A10c last night and it was modelled
I tried manual reversion in the A10c last night and it was modelled
MPretty cool
HThat is so cool
HLet me know what you find regarding the ACLS! I've already put myself in the waiting queue, but if the stick moves with the autopilot that'll be icing on the cake!
SIt probably would, it certainly moves with the trim buttons and the other autopilot modes in the Tomcat, don't see why the ACLS would be any different, but I guess to be fair, dumber things have happened.
MI wish the stick moved in the trainer's or Apache when the pilot moves it
DIm gonna do this to you https://youtu.be/LCm1Q8cK4l0
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MJust the excuse I needed to get into larping
SI wonder if that type of telemetry is part of the export, if so probably wouldn't be too hard to implement in Walmis's VPForce telemetry app, I say confidently as a person who has no idea how hard it actually is to implement 
DThat’s beyond larp
TThose oscillations is why I like the MSFFB2, the IR sensor means I can leave two fingers high up on the grip and maintain control but disable FFB, when it starts oscillating like crazy
MAn LED/LDR optical switch like that can be implemented on a Rhino without much trouble, there's already a way to use an e-stop button.
I'd rather have adjustable spike filter though, it's distracting and for the stick to go limp when you're hands not in the one position. Irl long flights you sometimes switch hands, or use super relaxed grip, maybe just with your fingertip for a bit, or your knee while eating a sandwich or 'look ma no hands!' :p
I'd rather have adjustable spike filter though, it's distracting and for the stick to go limp when you're hands not in the one position. Irl long flights you sometimes switch hands, or use super relaxed grip, maybe just with your fingertip for a bit, or your knee while eating a sandwich or 'look ma no hands!' :p
WThat's with endstops enabled?
MEndstops did it worse so I just turned them off
MI have a bit of damping on (can't remember the term you use)
WI have a rate limiter on the FFB "center point" modulation, but apparently it's still too fast 
WIs it user adjustable?
Wnot yet
TI have a question on FFB effects. I am an IL2 player, don’t know if I will ever get into DCS. What FFB effects are modeled on IL2? I see there is development for extra effects using telemetry for DCS. Does IL2 have the telemetry output that things would need to be developed/scripted in the same way? Or does IL2 work differently that the extra effects work natively?
I know there was some mention of the elevator droop above but what about the stuff like AOA buffeting and weapon effects?
I know there was some mention of the elevator droop above but what about the stuff like AOA buffeting and weapon effects?
PIL2 has ffb effects built in, you get rumble/bumpy effects on taxi & takeoff, flaps & gear down give rumble effects too, firing the gun gives vibration/shake, stick moves with trim, buffeting effect at stall high AoA. I'm sure there are other subtle effects also, I haven't played IL2 lately.
TThanks for the info!
Pno worries m8
VHow do you make the Autopilot work with the Tomcat?
For me it doesn't work, I press the reference button and the light goes out but the plane climbs or dive as no autopilot is engaged. Only once (and I don't know how) it worked
For me it doesn't work, I press the reference button and the light goes out but the plane climbs or dive as no autopilot is engaged. Only once (and I don't know how) it worked
VAlso the trim center and the stick position doesn't match with the tomcat...if the trim is at 0 (center position) the stick is shifted forward
JThat's true to life from what I get. Autopilot works as well like a Charme
JYou got only like around 40% forward movement compared to backwards range of motion
Vyes I know that, and this is not what I am complaining about...the thing is that it trim is set to center (both watching trim needle in pit, and ctrl+enter windows) the stick is not centered but shifted forward (both physically and both watching ctrl+enter window)
VWhat do you do to use the autopilot?
I trim the aircraft as well as possible for level flight, enable Autopilot, enable alt hold switch, press the nws button...the reference light turn off...and the aicraft doesn't fly level
I trim the aircraft as well as possible for level flight, enable Autopilot, enable alt hold switch, press the nws button...the reference light turn off...and the aicraft doesn't fly level
JHmm.... basically the same. Do you use any curves? I found the Rhino so precise, I neither use curves nor dead zones.
JDid you enable FFB trim in special settings
JNot sure if that would make a difference.
JAP works great, rhino also has that 1hz movement you see in the pit
SHave you clicked the FFB in the F-14 Special options? Without that there are all kinds of problems, otherwise the way you describe is how to enable the AP.
RAfter scratching my head for a while on this one I realised that it like that because the Tomcats grip is actually tilted backward from the main lower shaft of the stick. You can see it in pictures. So to correct it you would need a physical adapter that replicates this.
VFFB trim implementation?yes i ticked that
SI play in VR and I guess I never really notice or am bothered by it. A few modules like the A-10 and to a degree the Hornet are done that way. The interesting thing is even if the stick is offset, in the game window the 'cross' in the control window is also offset so it should appear centered relative to where the axis cross if that makes sense.
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SVirus, for the F-14 there are two places, 1) regular DCS options and 2) in the special options, you have to go to the F-14 itself and there is a checkbox in there you need to tick as well. I was having all kinds of problems with it until I ticked the special option.