I have the 20cm extension on it. Sometimes it likes to start rocking back and forth a bit. Somehow i

I have the 20cm extension on it. Sometimes it likes to start rocking back and forth a bit. Somehow it amplifies, kind of like a resonant frequency and within 10 seconds it's smashing from the end of one axis to another

Stal2k•2/6/23, 8:57 PM

It won't be as bad as the dude who was playing with his... joystick... in VR and fell through the table and died. At least that is the bar we have.

MagpieOP•2/6/23, 8:58 PM

Wdym he fell through the table

MMagpie I have the 20cm extension on it. Sometimes it likes to start rocking back and fo...

Stal2k•2/6/23, 8:59 PM

I have a 3d printed one, and I was still fiddling with the mounting and whatnot so I wasn't sitting in the seat but off to the side. I was watching the quick start video or whatever was talking about the balanced spring, since my extension does offset it a bit and it's just BARELY off-center with the normal spring profile. When I engaged the balanced spring it YEETED my grip across the room and snapped the extension. Totally my fault but was kind of funny. I've learned so many lessons in the past week or so.

MagpieOP•2/6/23, 8:59 PM

I once put my Sim pit too close to the wall and smashed my face into it when checking 6 lol

Stal2k•2/6/23, 8:59 PM

Pfft if you haven't face planted into your house checking 6 you aren't playing DCS.

AndyHill•2/6/23, 9:00 PM

I sometimes get escalating wack-fuck symptoms when the stick hits endstops without my hand on it

MMagpie Wdym he fell through the table

Stal2k•2/6/23, 9:00 PM

https://www.pcgamer.com/man-dies-in-vr-accident-according-to-russian-news-agency/

AndyHill•2/6/23, 9:01 PM

for example in il-2 with the WW1 planes that have elevator droop modeled so that without airflow it droops down and pulls the stick full forward

Stal2k•2/6/23, 9:02 PM

Ya, I guess it's nice to have some new hardware where I'll have to learn how to not hurt myself or others/property.

AAndyHill for example in il-2 with the WW1 planes that have elevator droop modeled so that...

MagpieOP•2/6/23, 9:03 PM

Oh wow I haven't tried the WW1 stuff with ffb. @ddrake1984 let's do it when yours comes

MMagpie Oh wow I haven't tried the WW1 stuff with ffb. @ddrake1984 let's do it when you...

ddrake1984•2/6/23, 9:06 PM

Hell yeah, been wanting to fly some old skool birds

ddrake1984•2/6/23, 9:07 PM

Remember to setup a fan in front of you for that extra immersion

Dddrake1984 I would prefer stick to become floppy on a crash

Will3D•2/6/23, 9:32 PM

Maybe we need a spike filter ? Like we have on motion rigs ?

peachmonkey•2/6/23, 9:50 PM

DCS did throw a fit with my RHINO couple of times, while flying the warbirds. The stick was fine when the plane was on the ground, however during a take-off it felt the axis got reversed and FFB effects went ballistic abruptly pushing the stick towards my groin, luckily there's a very useful big red shut-off button on the unit that saves the day. Both times it happened after a continuous 4-5 hour session in DCS (without existing/restarting/etc). Seems like there's yet just another bug with DCS...

Dddrake1984 Remember to setup a fan in front of you for that extra immersion

MagpieOP•2/6/23, 10:06 PM

Bill does that even with jets. Apparently there a fair bit of air from the air con

MMagpie Bill does that even with jets. Apparently there a fair bit of air from the air c...

ddrake1984•2/6/23, 11:55 PM

For WW1 you will need a scarf

WWill3D Maybe we need a spike filter ? Like we have on motion rigs ?

mechsicko•2/7/23, 12:11 AM

Exactly what I was thinking after seeing ppl talking about nut shots when crashing lol

HornetDRIVER•2/7/23, 2:05 AM

Has anyone flown an ACLS approach in the Tomcat with the Rhino? Will the stick move as the jet makes corrections?

MagpieOP•2/7/23, 2:13 AM

I've never done ACLS but I'll try tonight
I tried manual reversion in the A10c last night and it was modelled

MagpieOP•2/7/23, 2:13 AM

Pretty cool

HornetDRIVER•2/7/23, 2:14 AM

That is so cool

HornetDRIVER•2/7/23, 2:14 AM

Let me know what you find regarding the ACLS! I've already put myself in the waiting queue, but if the stick moves with the autopilot that'll be icing on the cake!

Stal2k•2/7/23, 2:22 AM

It probably would, it certainly moves with the trim buttons and the other autopilot modes in the Tomcat, don't see why the ACLS would be any different, but I guess to be fair, dumber things have happened.

MagpieOP•2/7/23, 2:31 AM

I wish the stick moved in the trainer's or Apache when the pilot moves it

MMagpie I wish the stick moved in the trainer's or Apache when the pilot moves it

ddrake1984•2/7/23, 2:42 AM

Im gonna do this to you https://youtu.be/LCm1Q8cK4l0

YouTubeMichael Holmes

*Whack* fuck

MagpieOP•2/7/23, 2:46 AM

MagpieOP•2/7/23, 2:47 AM

Just the excuse I needed to get into larping

MMagpie I wish the stick moved in the trainer's or Apache when the pilot moves it

Stal2k•2/7/23, 2:57 AM

I wonder if that type of telemetry is part of the export, if so probably wouldn't be too hard to implement in Walmis's VPForce telemetry app, I say confidently as a person who has no idea how hard it actually is to implement

MMagpie Just the excuse I needed to get into larping

ddrake1984•2/7/23, 3:04 AM

That’s beyond larp

ToreDL87•2/7/23, 3:46 AM

Those oscillations is why I like the MSFFB2, the IR sensor means I can leave two fingers high up on the grip and maintain control but disable FFB, when it starts oscillating like crazy

TToreDL87 Those oscillations is why I like the MSFFB2, the IR sensor means I can leave two...

mechsicko•2/7/23, 4:55 AM

An LED/LDR optical switch like that can be implemented on a Rhino without much trouble, there's already a way to use an e-stop button.

I'd rather have adjustable spike filter though, it's distracting and for the stick to go limp when you're hands not in the one position. Irl long flights you sometimes switch hands, or use super relaxed grip, maybe just with your fingertip for a bit, or your knee while eating a sandwich or 'look ma no hands!' :p

MMagpie I have the 20cm extension on it. Sometimes it likes to start rocking back and fo...

walmis•2/7/23, 5:27 AM

That's with endstops enabled?

MagpieOP•2/7/23, 5:27 AM

Endstops did it worse so I just turned them off

MagpieOP•2/7/23, 5:28 AM

I have a bit of damping on (can't remember the term you use)

WWill3D Maybe we need a spike filter ? Like we have on motion rigs ?

walmis•2/7/23, 6:21 AM

I have a rate limiter on the FFB "center point" modulation, but apparently it's still too fast

Wwalmis I have a rate limiter on the FFB "center point" modulation, but apparently it's ...

Will3D•2/7/23, 7:03 AM

Is it user adjustable?

walmis•2/7/23, 7:06 AM

not yet

TheAmazinGreat•2/7/23, 3:53 PM

I have a question on FFB effects. I am an IL2 player, don’t know if I will ever get into DCS. What FFB effects are modeled on IL2? I see there is development for extra effects using telemetry for DCS. Does IL2 have the telemetry output that things would need to be developed/scripted in the same way? Or does IL2 work differently that the extra effects work natively?

I know there was some mention of the elevator droop above but what about the stuff like AOA buffeting and weapon effects?

TTheAmazinGreat I have a question on FFB effects. I am an IL2 player, don’t know if I will ever ...

PiNKSH!T•2/7/23, 3:57 PM

IL2 has ffb effects built in, you get rumble/bumpy effects on taxi & takeoff, flaps & gear down give rumble effects too, firing the gun gives vibration/shake, stick moves with trim, buffeting effect at stall high AoA. I'm sure there are other subtle effects also, I haven't played IL2 lately.

PPiNKSH!T IL2 has ffb effects built in, you get rumble/bumpy effects on taxi & takeoff, fl...

TheAmazinGreat•2/7/23, 4:00 PM

Thanks for the info!

TTheAmazinGreat Thanks for the info!

PiNKSH!T•2/7/23, 4:19 PM

no worries m8

SStal2k It probably would, it certainly moves with the trim buttons and the other autopi...

Virus•2/7/23, 5:32 PM

How do you make the Autopilot work with the Tomcat?
For me it doesn't work, I press the reference button and the light goes out but the plane climbs or dive as no autopilot is engaged. Only once (and I don't know how) it worked

Virus•2/7/23, 5:34 PM

Also the trim center and the stick position doesn't match with the tomcat...if the trim is at 0 (center position) the stick is shifted forward

VVirus Also the trim center and the stick position doesn't match with the tomcat...if t...

Jaeger•2/7/23, 5:55 PM

That's true to life from what I get. Autopilot works as well like a Charme

Jaeger•2/7/23, 5:56 PM

You got only like around 40% forward movement compared to backwards range of motion

Virus•2/7/23, 6:17 PM

yes I know that, and this is not what I am complaining about...the thing is that it trim is set to center (both watching trim needle in pit, and ctrl+enter windows) the stick is not centered but shifted forward (both physically and both watching ctrl+enter window)

JJaeger That's true to life from what I get. Autopilot works as well like a Charme

Virus•2/7/23, 6:18 PM

What do you do to use the autopilot?
I trim the aircraft as well as possible for level flight, enable Autopilot, enable alt hold switch, press the nws button...the reference light turn off...and the aicraft doesn't fly level

Jaeger•2/7/23, 6:20 PM

Hmm.... basically the same. Do you use any curves? I found the Rhino so precise, I neither use curves nor dead zones.

Jaeger•2/7/23, 6:21 PM

Did you enable FFB trim in special settings

Jaeger•2/7/23, 6:21 PM

Not sure if that would make a difference.

I have the 20cm extension on it. Sometimes it likes to start rocking back and forth a bit. Somehow i

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