Lilll test it now
Lworks now
JHey there, what would be the setting to make the stick a little "tighter" on the centre. I think I got a decent profile for the F-14 (DCS) but would love to have a more tighter feeling if the stick is centred. All slider movements did not change anything from what I was feeling, so I'm a little stranded.
WSpring mapping to the rescue 
Just don't make it too steep, might cause stability issues.
Just don't make it too steep, might cause stability issues.
JAhh, OK. Thank you
JThere is one problem, though. In the F-14 is the Y axis out of center most of the time (trim) , which would make the center curve not work, I guess.
Still got my head not wrapped around all the settings. I got induced oscillation fiddeling with the settings, but I think it comes from the sim mostly. With turning periodic down and introducing some dampening I got rid of most of it.
Guess I have to sit down for a day and experiment a little too staring to understand all the settings.
Still got my head not wrapped around all the settings. I got induced oscillation fiddeling with the settings, but I think it comes from the sim mostly. With turning periodic down and introducing some dampening I got rid of most of it.
Guess I have to sit down for a day and experiment a little too staring to understand all the settings.
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[Hello Walmis, I just got a weird problem after testing the above spring mapping. I am not sure that it is related but it started after changing the spring map but it is still there after resetting the values ...
The problem is related to Force Trim. When I am using the forces trim in the DCS MI24 it have worked perfect until now. Today I saw a problem that I have noticed in the AH64 before but not in the 24. Note that this is only when using the DCS ForceTrim, if I use the VPForce ForceTrim it works as expected.
When I press force trim button and move the stick to new position it works but when I let go of the force trim button it then moves the stick an additional distance in the direction that I moved the stick. This seem to increase the further away from center that I trim the cyclic. Without knowing for sure it seems as it add the same distance from the center as I trimmed. Example: If I push the trim button and move the stick back 5cm in Y, when I then let go of the stick it jumps and addition 5 cm backwards. If I trim the stick and put it on the center it will not move after I release the button ... I hope this all makes sense
Any ideas?
The problem is related to Force Trim. When I am using the forces trim in the DCS MI24 it have worked perfect until now. Today I saw a problem that I have noticed in the AH64 before but not in the 24. Note that this is only when using the DCS ForceTrim, if I use the VPForce ForceTrim it works as expected.
When I press force trim button and move the stick to new position it works but when I let go of the force trim button it then moves the stick an additional distance in the direction that I moved the stick. This seem to increase the further away from center that I trim the cyclic. Without knowing for sure it seems as it add the same distance from the center as I trimmed. Example: If I push the trim button and move the stick back 5cm in Y, when I then let go of the stick it jumps and addition 5 cm backwards. If I trim the stick and put it on the center it will not move after I release the button ... I hope this all makes sense
Any ideas?
[Did some more testing and it seems as it is present in the HUEY as well ... just reversed, mening that the stick is moved back towards the center after i release the Trim button
However, simple fix seem to be to use the VPForce trim function, with forced spring effects turned on, and bind it to the same buttons as in the DCS config and keeping the DCS button config as well. This worked great in the 24, will try the UH1 as well
However, simple fix seem to be to use the VPForce trim function, with forced spring effects turned on, and bind it to the same buttons as in the DCS config and keeping the DCS button config as well. This worked great in the 24, will try the UH1 as well
ADo you have curves setup for the axis in dcs? A non-zero curve causes wonky things with ffb.
[Yes I had curves set up, figured that could be the cause and removed them but did not notice any changes afterwards.
[Tried the Huey and it works great when using the VPForce Trim ... and also the MI8 AND now I can use trim hat function in the HIP and the Huey which I have been missing
[@walmis or whoever knows Quick question regarding the TelemFFB. What kind of forces should I expect when flying helos? I noticed ETL shake in Huey and the MI8 but not in the 24. Firing guns and rockets works as well , is there any other feedbacks modeled for helos?
Quick question regarding the TelemFFB. What kind of forces should I expect when flying helos? I noticed ETL shake in Huey and the MI8 but not in the 24. Firing guns and rockets works as well , is there any other feedbacks modeled for helos?
GI would imagine not many others due to them being hydraulic controls
GAnybody able to help an absolute Git newbie out with getting Telem FFB setup?
GI really have no idea
[I had never used any of it as well but it was really simple. I searched for GIT and Python and found the installs - ran them and then followed the instructions on the GITHub page
[Only gotcha was that when you install Python I had to click "inclyde python in PATH" ... or something similar on the first install screen of python, for the "PIP Install ... " command to work, I also needed a restart but after that it was a breeze
GOk, but for an absolute software idiot.
WHas there been any updates regarding the expansion of this whole operation? I’m sure there are hundreds of folks waiting to order until the production speeds up. Very happy for Walmis, I’d rather see success out of VPForce over Thrustmaster or Logitech any day.
W…. But I’m really hoping he can get production to a point where he’s shipping a few a day.
FI’m sure he’ll let us know when it changes.
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WCould you export your configuration? I'll take a look. Also watch the spring CP value in the debug tab, it should indicate what DCS is setting. Spring mapping shouldn't interfere with trimming 
Phey m8 did you get Git installed? still need a hand?
GI'mgood, thank you. I needed python help. A friend of mine helped out. I didn't know the difference between using poweeshell and the interpreter
[@gitbse Sorry for leaving you hanging there, had to run an missed your response. Good to hear that you got it all working
PHey there guys, how would I go about adding ffb effects for the free mod Blackhawk? it currently has some but I don't think it has the same as the Huey or Ka 50. I'd like to know anyway how to add extra effects to any aircraft, can I just copy past effects from the config of one aircraft to the other or one I've added like the mod BH? Thanks for the help guys
WCan you post a screenshot of the telemetry window with that mod running?
Pwill do m8, sry been busy
GNo worries. The telemetry adds so much, I'm gonna have to dig deeper into it and see what else I can do. First impressions of my first stick flights were freakin amazing though. Game changing for sure.
GOne parameter I know right away was missing especially in the Hornet was g loading on the stick. I'm sure there's a way to get it setup, but the more g you pull the heavier the stick should get. All fighters have that either physically or hydraulic
AI want perfect realistic g-loading on my hornet, make it happen
GI'll need a centerfuge for that
Acost doesn't matter as long as I don't have to pay for it
GLol.
GI'm new to python and the programming side, but I work on aircraft IRL. I know my way around the systems and performance of the planes, just have to learn how to change things thru the telemetry software
Walso AoA - So we need to 3 parameters to play nice together - AoA, G and regular spring
AIt's ok if it's complicated as long as I don't have to do any of the problem solving
AI just kind of feel that this would be a job for ED, though
GI'm going to start digging into the outputs after work tonight. I have alot to learn, but it's worth the time
GIs there any info on how to start? Should I look deeper back in this channel?
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Palso I'm using the loopback app, the keys on my stick bind to force trim ok, but I get no force trim in game with the Blackhawk mod heli
FHello everybody, is there any quick start guide for fs2020 with xpforce? I just bought the xp force licence but it doesn't generate any forces for the rhino. It detects it but it cannot control it. Any additional info is appreciated. Tnx
AI have done a little bit of testing with it, but can't help much really
AI think it comes with a reasonably ok manual, though
Sin your xpforce Config.xpfc i had to add the axes manually since it crashed anytime i tried to set them in the app. after that, it just works.