RYou’ll need do it via the app
P"I did try the Blackhawk mod with & without the VPforce config app force trim buttons bound to my mcgu via the loopback app & that didn't work" in my comment above 
AReading through forum posts gives the impression that the special mode should say "sticks without springs and without ffb". I, too, confused it for an ffb-specific mode at first.
Sgoddam that was in my mind a few times but I dismissed it
Sthey have to be more specific with their wording lol
SFor me the Huey works as intended. With FFB sticks use “default” as trimmer mode. The “stick without springs and FFB” mode was created for folks who don’t have FFB and a non-centering stick as Asdforce stated above.
SHey @dirty0519 (from xsimulator.net?) These are the 10:1 gearboxes i'm using on my WIP rig. https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256801124644081.html 10:1, 8mm input
I have hardstops for 30deg total travel, and when the system is switched on i feel no cogging or backlash, and by turning up 'natural dampening compensation' a little in the configurator it negates the inertia of all the spinning components. it feels wonderful on the test bench, can't wait to use for real.
I have hardstops for 30deg total travel, and when the system is switched on i feel no cogging or backlash, and by turning up 'natural dampening compensation' a little in the configurator it negates the inertia of all the spinning components. it feels wonderful on the test bench, can't wait to use for real.
Sdont know where to post shared settings so here is mine:
ffb_config.vpconf5.85KB
SWeird issue: vpforce configurator stopped recognizing the rhino today. The stick works well in dcs, windows usb control panel sees it and recognizes it.
SI downloaded a fresh copy and even ran it as admin- it does not see the rhino.
SHowever the usb web tool sees it!
WIs it possible you have another instance running?
Syep that was it. sorry
YThese gearboxes continue to fascinate me. I'm really looking forward to your opinion in the sim
LIs there a way to "toggle" endstops per API? (I cant figure it out with the DirectX one)
KIs this applicable to the Mi 24 as well?
WNo, not yet. But I'm planning to add support for parameters via hidapi commands
Li would appreciate that, i want to replicate the Airbus Sidestick Behaivour
Lall i need is a call for setting end stops, and a event when you go past them
SYes, in Mi24 the setting is called “Instant Trim (default)”. With FFB sticks the default option is correct for all ED made helicopters.
SSo you are finding that the ‘FFB’ option does not properly?
SThe “default” option is correct for FFB. The one many think is correct FFB option actually is for turning FFB stick trimmer off. Read it like it was written “without springs and without FFB”. The way it is written can be a bit confusing but there is no need to write the without two times in that sentence. That option was added by ED for people who have no springs in the stick and no FFB.
SSo the “without springs and FFB” option doesn’t work with Rhino.
AI think it would be really good to start gathering the tips and tricks for simulators into the manual at this point
Awe're going to see all of these details about which mode is correct and which button to press over and over again unless (and even if, but hopefully to a lesser extent) we start building up a knowledgebase
AWhat would be a decent enough a spot for such stuffs? Using the system?
AUsing the system / Game specific instructions?
SThere is already a document I've been adding to.Walmis is the owner and he can give you write privs.
SGoogle Docs
VPforce RHINO FFB (draft) User Manual Version X.X MM/DD/YYYY Table of Contents 1. Introduction 1 1.1. Overview 2 1.1.1. Instructions 2 1.1.2. Specifications 2 1.2. Getting Started 3 1.2.1. Cautions & Warnings 3 1.2.2. Set-up Considerations 3 1.2.3. User Access Considerations 3 1.2.4. Acces...
S@walmis I think there is a bug in the endstops function. When activated and the slider (which pops up when you click in the field) is moved to any value greater than 10%, then the end stop is properly activated at the extent specified (for example, setting it to 50% introduces and end stop halfway through the excursion). Progressively reducing the endstop percent does progressively limit the free stick excursion (as it should since the end stops are moving closer to zero) However, when the slider is dragged all the way down, the value in the box reads 10% and endstop is disabled. This is confusing . The default value for the endstop should read 100%, not 10% as it does now. And when the slider is dragged all the way down, it should read zero.
SAlso, if the endstops are enabled, calibration is wrong because auto calibrating does not disable the endstops function and this limits stick excursion during calibration.
Asomething I am noticing with IL2, not sure if it's intended behavior, a bug, or something else: when the force feedback is active in IL2, i've been noticing what makes it seems like i have very slow roll rates in my planes, when i drop into the key mappings and check the joystick input -- it appears that when i move the stick left and right, it never hits the end, this is where the slider appears at full deflection:
Aif i alt tab out of the game, the FFB effects seem to get turned off from the game, and if i pop back into this window, now the indicator hits full edge deflection
MIt has something to do with the belt under tension. Apparently it’s fixed come the next update
Aoh interesting! gtk!
Ado you know when the next update comes out?
Fwhen Walmis announces it
Ai can now replicate this issue when i set spring to 100% strength, in the joystick tester, i can no longer hit full deflection
Ai guess the only work around right now is to set a very large deadzone in game on the ends, so you can hit full deflection?
Dor a curve
MNo curves
WTo run DCS for the Hornet or Apache, what default settings should I be using in the Configurator tool? Under Effects, should I have Spring checked or Forced Effect? What is Forced Effect? I know from reading some posts yesterday that I should keep my FFB settings to default in DCS
Syou got ffb to work in il2?
PForced effect will overwrite any of that effect in game. The Settings tab are the 'Master Settings" the Effects tab are for the effects felt in game, so if you set spring to 100% in settings tab then in effects tab you set it to 50% the game/sim will be able to use a total spring strength of 50%
SI tried il2 and ffb wasn't working with my msffb2 joystick
Psilly question but, did you have IL2 ffb setting on?
Syes
SIm testing it out again right now
SI was very disapointed in il2
PI tried my logitech 3d force a few years ago in IL2 & it didn't work either, I never tried again though