TNo, I was in town, in a computer store and saw USB cables and wondered if it was included, I assumed it was but asked anyway. My Rhino is still with the Customs Departmentβ¦β¦.
Smy msffb 2 stick does the same effects and the rhino can also do it. the stick will droop forward when the prop isn't pushing too much air through the elevator but once you push the throttle forward the stick will go to center. Also the weird thing you might be noticing with the stick not centering where its supposed to is just a bug, you can trim back to center to fix it.
TI donβt have anything set up yet so I canβt check for myself, but Is it possible for one of the two auxiliary potentiometer spots on the board be configured to an axis in the software?
WYeah it's possible
TAwesome! Iβm working on a DIY grip and figured I could add a pot if that was the case using a 6 pin DIN cable. 5 pins used for the shift register and the 6th pin used for pot signal.
WIf your DIY grip has an arduino inside, you can transfer analog axis via the shift-register data also 
TThat would be awesome. Where can I find info on transferring analog data this way?
TIβve looked but not sure I am searching the right things.
TDo the analog axis input to the shift register or the Arduino? I could see where the Arduino acts as a way to combine analog input from the source and the digital input from the shift register into a single output to the VPForce board. But is it a different way?
WBasically you would need to implement a SPI slave
WYou can then transfer buttons in the first 64bits and 4 axis in the higher 64bits, 4x16bit signed integers.
Wso 16 bytes in total
TThanks! I will look into that some more and appreciate the help!
TIβve never done anything with SPI before, do I need to worry about breaking or frying anything on the VPForce board if I give it the wrong SPI signals? (Assuming V+ and GND are properly connected)
Wnope
WYou have the kit, right? I'll make you a FFB owner
W
GWhat are the three pin connectors on the pcb board called? I'm adding pots to my build but need to order the connectors.
GAre they jst's?
TYep, got my kit yesterday! Super impressed with everything! Thank you so much for all the help!! 
Wyep, jst-xh
G@smitty#5756 hey, I was looking at those gear reduction planetaries you listed. Is there a huge benefit to using those? I would imagine it allows the motors to spin alot further for the same amount of stick deflection.
GDoes that allow different force outputs? Or maybe a more "accurate" force?
RI think they up torque motor spins faster producing more total power, gear reduction slows the rotation down so power equation result raises the torque.
SI made a first effort on the manual. Have a look and add what you can. Btw, what are the four empty boxes around the trim setting for?
WThanks.
In case you haven't discovered yet, if you hover mouse on some controls you will get a tooltip.
In case you haven't discovered yet, if you hover mouse on some controls you will get a tooltip.
WCurrently also working on documenting stuff in the app itself, for example:
Sis there a place we could list the dcs bugs that give weird FFB behavior? For example, curves applied to pitch and roll give weird behavior in the Huey and the F5E
AHype! New update sneak peak! Howβs it deal with belt stretch with higher forces?
WNot an issue any more 
AOh I was curious if itβs a setting you have to configure. Either way tho, canβt wait for the update!
WYeah it's configurable, but I have rough default values for Rhino
WKit owners will have different settings for their mechanics
ALike you do a calibrate axis with some constant forces applied?
AThen it can figure out deltas mathematically?
WIt's a bit more crude for the initial release
WYou basically calibrate as usual and then increase the compensation value until it reaches the logical axis edge while under spring force
AAhh
Wbut works great!
AYee! Hopefully release soon? 
happy to beta test if you need anyone too
happy to beta test if you need anyone tooAi've noticed every time i plug in the rhino, a little interesting notification appears, is there a way to disable that? i've had windows derp and sometimes get it stuck, and i can't dismiss it
WWebusb notification?
Ayeah that might be it
WIt's from the browser - Edge, Chrome?
A
SStupid question, but how do you get DCS to send input to vp force app? I was looking on the debug loaded effects but nothing shows up. So not receiving any shaking effects or trim. Vpforce app works just fine though on its own (loving the motors)
AMiiight depend on the module youβre using?
SI've been using the spitfire, huey, and f5 so far. I'm pretty sure I'm using the app incorrectly
A
spitfire def has some force feedback, but it was implemented pretty poorly from my tests. Screenshot of how you have things configured? The effects tab and the one with the sliders for effects
MWhatβs weird about the f5?