I plugged in the kit board today and my computer is not recognizing the board as a game controller.

I plugged in the kit board today and my computer is not recognizing the board as a game controller. In Device Manager it is described as "Unknown USB Device (Device Descriptor Request Failed)". Anyone run into this before?

TheAmazinGreatOP•3/5/23, 9:57 PM

I didn't try it with any power connections hooked up, just USB and motor signal plugs. If that makes a difference.

TTheAmazinGreat I plugged in the kit board today and my computer is not recognizing the board as...

leninjahd•3/5/23, 10:13 PM

Happend to me, one wire of the usb plug was not attached to the plug itself

TheAmazinGreatOP•3/5/23, 10:29 PM

The GND and DM were flipped on the plug side. Flipped them to match the board annotation and it works!

TheAmazinGreatOP•3/5/23, 10:52 PM

I'll put a +1 on the request for the shift register wiring. I wired it up as I thought it should be and was getting some unexpected behavior.

TheAmazinGreatOP•3/5/23, 10:58 PM

Although I swear it was working at first but after a while it started acting weird. Couldn’t press individual buttons but could press them sequentially if held down. I’ll need some more time to play with it, I could have had something crossed up.

TheAmazinGreatOP•3/5/23, 11:02 PM

It could have also been my config, though I thought I clicked store/send correctly. I tried both generic and VPForce registers.

TheAmazinGreatOP•3/5/23, 11:06 PM

No matter what I did on the config store/send, I couldn’t get the “Read” config to work like I expected so maybe that was an indication of issues. When you click read is it supposed to adjust the configurator? If I clicked store/send and then changed my grip type and then clicked “Read” it wouldn’t do anything. I thought it might change back to the last grip type I stored.

TheAmazinGreatOP•3/6/23, 4:50 AM

Ended up reconnecting everything and spamming the send button. Working now!

TTheAmazinGreat No matter what I did on the config store/send, I couldn’t get the “Read” config ...

walmis•3/6/23, 5:03 AM

Read just gets the active configuration - if you change something without send and click read it will revert back.

walmis•3/6/23, 5:07 AM

Glad you got it working!

Wwalmis Read just gets the active configuration - if you change something without send a...

ddrake1984•3/6/23, 6:04 AM

I thought only store keeps the configuration in long term memory, shouldn't read revert back to the last store and have send only volatile, keeping it in memory until next shutdown/restart/read?

Dddrake1984 I thought only **store **keeps the configuration in long term memory, shouldn't ...

walmis•3/6/23, 6:46 AM

Yeah, that makes sense

SwiftVengeance•3/8/23, 6:16 AM

Instant trim (FFB FRIENDLY) and no spring no ffb modes on the apache are still broken

SwiftVengeance•3/8/23, 6:16 AM

So disappointing

SwiftVengeance•3/8/23, 6:18 AM

I have to use simffb software to create the effects manually and unbind trim in dcs

Magpie•3/8/23, 8:34 AM

Did it break this month?

Jaeger•3/8/23, 9:52 AM

About my question. I tried two days ago and it did work.

nz aviator•3/9/23, 6:17 AM

Are Winwing grips plug and play now?

ddrake1984•3/9/23, 6:25 AM

With the adapter

Nnz aviator Are Winwing grips plug and play now?

TrigaNZ•3/9/23, 6:50 AM

Mine shows some funny button combos on the VP Configurator but they all show up in DCS OK.

Dddrake1984 With the adapter

nz aviator•3/9/23, 6:51 AM

What adaptor is that?

ddrake1984•3/9/23, 6:51 AM

The one that walmis makes

TTrigaNZ Mine shows some funny button combos on the VP Configurator but they all show up ...

walmis•3/9/23, 6:53 AM

Could you make a screen recording if you get a chance? There's a Chrome extension that makes this easy: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/screencastify-screen-vide/mmeijimgabbpbgpdklnllpncmdofkcpn?hl=en

Dddrake1984 The one that walmis makes

nz aviator•3/9/23, 6:54 AM

just seen it on the pre order form. thanks for the help

Nnz aviator What adaptor is that?

walmis•3/9/23, 6:54 AM

Yeah, it's an adapter that goes between Rhino and WW grip

ddrake1984•3/9/23, 6:56 AM

Its a work of genius

Wwalmis Yeah, it's an adapter that goes between Rhino and WW grip

nz aviator•3/9/23, 6:58 AM

Thanks. so its about a year on the pre order at the moment?

Wwalmis Could you make a screen recording if you get a chance? There's a Chrome extensio...

TrigaNZ•3/9/23, 6:59 AM

I'll try

TTrigaNZ I'll try

ddrake1984•3/9/23, 7:02 AM

https://tenor.com/view/starwarsday-gif-5413758

Tenor

starwarsday

TrigaNZ•3/9/23, 7:25 AM

Not really a google user, I sent a screenshot instead.

MMagpie Did it break this month?

SwiftVengeance•3/9/23, 6:59 PM

Its always been broken since Apache came out

Dddrake1984 https://tenor.com/view/starwarsday-gif-5413758

RustBelt•3/9/23, 10:15 PM

ONLY a Sith deals in absolutes…

RRustBelt ONLY a Sith deals in absolutes…😉

ddrake1984•3/9/23, 10:18 PM

oooh. thats good

SSwiftVengeance Instant trim (FFB FRIENDLY) and no spring no ffb modes on the apache are still b...

Magpie•3/9/23, 10:58 PM

What do you mean by this?
Force trim worked for me on the Apache last night
Is there something I'm missing?

SwiftVengeance•3/9/23, 11:11 PM

Yes, the force trim option and no spring ffb mode adds input lag

SwiftVengeance•3/9/23, 11:12 PM

https://youtu.be/84KZf48ugVw

YouTubeMr. Simulator

apache test input speed limit

SwiftVengeance•3/9/23, 11:13 PM

If you fly using the regular mode this doesnt happen

AndyHill•3/9/23, 11:32 PM

Well I only use the instant trim mode, isn't that the default one?

AndyHill•3/9/23, 11:32 PM

I wouldn't have noticed that

AndyHill•3/9/23, 11:32 PM

wait why am I yellow

ddrake1984•3/9/23, 11:33 PM

wtf is with that input lag

AAndyHill Well I only use the instant trim mode, isn't that the default one?

ddrake1984•3/9/23, 11:33 PM

cause you been helping with the manual

Hotshot•3/10/23, 8:49 AM

Quick question: mounting a Virpil or WWing stick to the Rhino: will that still allow me to use their respective software to setup buttons/axis and stuff?
Or will those apps no longer recognize their stick?

HHotshot Quick question: mounting a Virpil or WWing stick to the Rhino: will that still a...

skeleton•3/10/23, 9:11 AM

I use a Virpil stick on the Rhino Base. Windows will only recognise the Rhino base device with the axis and buttons of the stick mapped to the Rhino device. So you can't use the Virpil configurator to change the settings of the stick. That's all done via the Rhino Configurator.

ddrake1984•3/10/23, 9:15 AM

VKB works because it instead connects directly to the VKB Blackbox (unlike Virpil and WW)

skeleton•3/10/23, 9:21 AM

Speaking of the configurator:
I have a weird issue. I'm running a relatively fresh Win 11 install and only recently tried to change my FFB config. I downloaded version 1.0.13. When I first started it, the window was blank and crashed/didn't respond. I tried with the Rhino disconnected, without power, connected, etc. Then it worked for one time.
Then it stopped working entirely. So I can't change my config anymore. Tried different compatibility mode settings etc. but no joy.
The configurator launches with a blank window. The Rhino "ID" is recognised and shown in the top of the window when connected. The app uses CPU resources even when it's blank. Clicking on it will bring up the "this application doesn't respond" dialogue.
I re-downloaded it and also tried the 1.0.7 version. Firmware is up to date.
Any idea how to fix it?

Sskeleton I use a Virpil stick on the Rhino Base. Windows will only recognise the Rhino ba...

Hotshot•3/10/23, 9:29 AM

Shit; so no pass though... but... seeing as the Virpil software doesn't need to be running in the background, because the entire config is always saved to the device: wouldn't it work to configure the stick with the default base and then putting it on the Rhino? (I think WWing also saves it directly to the device)

HHotshot Shit; so no pass though... but... seeing as the Virpil software doesn't need to ...

skeleton•3/10/23, 9:30 AM

negative
the config is saved to your base afaik, so the stick doesn't know of the config

Sskeleton Speaking of the configurator: I have a weird issue. I'm running a relatively fre...

walmis•3/10/23, 11:11 AM

My guess it's something related to Qt and OpenGL. I got rid of the OpenGL dependency in the new version, so hopefully that will fix it.

Wwalmis My guess it's something related to Qt and OpenGL. I got rid of the OpenGL depend...

skeleton•3/10/23, 11:12 AM

Ok, thanks. I'm looking forward to the new version then. Until then I can use an old laptop for config changes

I plugged in the kit board today and my computer is not recognizing the board as a game controller.

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