I'm still skeptical here. You're either saying to desaturate one side of the pitch axis, which would

I'm still skeptical here. You're either saying to desaturate one side of the pitch axis, which would just reduce the total usable throw range, or move the center calibration point, neither of which seem like something I'd want

PiNKSH!T•3/25/23, 7:15 AM

ahh ok, so that will change the physical axis limit & then the software will soft it out so you still hit 4096 when you reach the physical limit?

HHextopia I'm still skeptical here. You're either saying to desaturate one side of the pit...

Magpie•3/25/23, 7:18 AM

Its personal preference for sure, but it's the fix to the issue you describe

PPiNKSH!T ahh ok, so that will change the physical axis limit & then the software will sof...

Magpie•3/25/23, 7:18 AM

Yeah, that's why walmis is now making physical end stops

Magpie•3/25/23, 7:19 AM

So you set it to like 2500 or 3000 or something that feels good for your ergonomics

Magpie•3/25/23, 7:19 AM

Like we all have different stick lengths and Sim pit seating arrangements

Magpie•3/25/23, 7:20 AM

So just try to correspond what you see in VR with a usable axis

Magpie•3/25/23, 7:21 AM

And you won't notice the difference for the aircraft that currently feel good

And the shonky ones like the A10 and the Ka-50 and the F5 and the tomcat feel right

MMagpie Its personal preference for sure, but it's the fix to the issue you describe

HextopiaOP•3/25/23, 1:45 PM

I don't actually think it's an issue

Magpie•3/25/23, 1:46 PM

Ah sweet as, keep it the way it is then!

HextopiaOP•3/25/23, 1:46 PM

Yeah, I'd actually prefer all my center stick aircraft be that way, since it more closely mimics how real aircraft are setup

HextopiaOP•3/25/23, 1:47 PM

Giving you all that extra room on the pull gives you a lot better control and feel for how hard you're pulling

Magpie•3/25/23, 1:49 PM

Makes sense, do you have an extension?

HextopiaOP•3/25/23, 1:49 PM

I do

HHextopia Giving you all that extra room on the pull gives you a lot better control and fe...

PiNKSH!T•3/25/23, 1:59 PM

I think most people are restricting the push of the Y axis as a lot of aircraft have less forward throw than rearward.

HHextopia Yeah, I'd actually prefer all my center stick aircraft be that way, since it mor...

skyPickle•3/25/23, 5:09 PM

how do you know about the real aircraft? The neutral position only happens in flight and that's where you would see your stick pitched forward.

skyPickle•3/25/23, 5:15 PM

@walmis I realized that the axis scaling is supposed to adjust this but it would be far easier if I could just drag the center point in game. The necessary change in vpconfigurator would be a button to adjust center. Like the auto calibrate button but simpler. Click the button, drag the blue circle, click the button again. This could even be automated. Although that might sound complex, DCS actually can export values in game, specifically the name of the aircraft. Simshaker and DCS exports do this through the export.lua. So the Rhino firmware could poll the export lua every 5 minutes, read the data (which aircraft) and set the center point according to an aircraft specific adjustment (like simshaker does). This aircraft specific adjustment can be stored in the firmware and modifiable by the user.

skyPickle•3/25/23, 6:09 PM

also tried running the latest executable version of TelemFFB through the executable. Got this error:

skyPickle•3/25/23, 6:09 PM

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "main.py", line 282, in <module>
File "main.py", line 261, in main
File "utils.py", line 286, in install_export_lua
File "utils.py", line 266, in write_script
FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'C:\Users\Stefan\Desktop\telemffb/export/TelemFFB.lua'"

skyPickle•3/25/23, 6:17 PM

I put the script from the master into the empty folder and that fixed it

gitbse•3/26/23, 8:35 PM

gitbse•3/26/23, 8:35 PM

anybody else get this with the new software?

amadeus•3/26/23, 8:41 PM

did you update the firmware yet from the website?

amadeus•3/26/23, 8:41 PM

(visit this url in chrome to actually also update the firmware: https://vpforcecontrols.com/usb/rhino/ )

TTheAmazinGreat Question for those with the 86BLFXX motor kits, what are you using to mount thes...

TheAmazinGreat•3/27/23, 10:51 AM

Tagging my fellow @FFB/Kit Owner for visibility.

TTheAmazinGreat Tagging my fellow @FFB/Kit Owner for visibility.

walmis•3/27/23, 10:55 AM

I'd recommend tapping them to M6

gitbse•3/27/23, 10:58 AM

Yes, M6 screws. I used flat hex head bolts

gitbse•3/27/23, 10:59 AM

Anything taller head may start running into the belt. I also added an idler bearing for belt tension on the upper forward bolt of the pitch motor. I can add pics and details after work when I get home if anybody wants

Ggitbse Anything taller head may start running into the belt. I also added an idler bear...

TheAmazinGreat•3/27/23, 12:01 PM

I’d like to see how you did it. I’ve got my gimbal made and moving on to the housing. I think all the bases are modeled for the 57 series motors so I am looking into how to implement the 86 series.

gitbse•3/27/23, 12:24 PM

Oh, the 86 series. Sorry, I didn't read that correctly. I have the 57s

gitbse•3/27/23, 12:25 PM

It should just take a cad adjustment and bigger hole pattern. You will however run into interference with the gimbal arms and the roll motor. My 57 motor hits the gimbal, but it ends up hitting past where the end stops are so it's fine.

gitbse•3/27/23, 12:26 PM

The 86s might need some cad readjustment and different belts

TheAmazinGreat•3/27/23, 12:30 PM

Which part does the gimbal hit? I’ve got an idea how I want to modify it. Just getting ready to start on modeling it. I’m thinking v-slot extrusion frame with printed panels.

gitbse•3/27/23, 12:50 PM

The lower arms of the gimbal arm at full throw. Even the 57 motors have bigger cases than the basic cad file case has, but it's not enough to cause problems

TTheAmazinGreat Tagging my fellow @FFB/Kit Owner for visibility.

William Oakes•3/27/23, 1:11 PM

I used M5 hex bolts with a lock nut on the back.

TTheAmazinGreat Question for those with the 86BLFXX motor kits, what are you using to mount thes...

mechsicko•3/27/23, 3:11 PM

The threads in the motor body are M6 so I'm using M6 screws going through through-holes.

Mmechsicko The threads in the motor body are M6 so I'm using M6 screws going through throug...

TheAmazinGreat•3/27/23, 3:24 PM

Sounds good, mine aren’t tapped but I can tap them.

TTheAmazinGreat Sounds good, mine aren’t tapped but I can tap them.

mechsicko•3/27/23, 3:38 PM

Scratch that I have the 57xxx motors not the 86's

TTheAmazinGreat Question for those with the 86BLFXX motor kits, what are you using to mount thes...

Will3D•3/27/23, 6:13 PM

Drilled to 6mm and have an m6 bolt with nyloc nut on it.

TheAmazinGreat•3/27/23, 6:49 PM

Thanks for all the replies everyone, lots of good options.

Knight59•3/28/23, 9:14 PM

newb question - just got my Rhino base! Super impressed so far.

How does one load a stick profile? IE I have a Virpil Alpha grip, and the buttons are acting... odd. I assume that's because I need to load a profile for that specific stick? All the buttons seem to register as double presses...

Update:

Plugged in my old warthog stick and it's fine, thankfully. I'll use it for now, but if anybody has any ideas how to get the Alpha to behave, I'd appreciate it.

UPDATE2: Nevermind - I'm an idiot. I was looking for the stick profile on the web app/not the software. Got it now!

UPDATE3: Where has this been all my life? WOW... simply blown away!

Rob EB•3/30/23, 8:56 PM

@walmis
After powering up my base it no longer shows in the game device list. The Google Chrome popup says FFB Board Bootloader detectedFFB Board Bootloader detected and the web app also shows it connected in bootloader mode. Running a firmware update will complete, but after rebooting it again only shows as in bootloader mode.

I've tried disconnecting USB and power at the base then reconnecting after a delay of around 30 seconds. Also, multiple USB2 and USB3 ports, both direct to the motherboard and on powered hubs. But, all with the same result.

Rob EB•3/30/23, 9:01 PM

No change after rebooting the PC.
Anti-cogging is working (gimble is smooth when emergency stop is out), no spring forces are present and the base does not show in the configuration app.

RRob EB No change after rebooting the PC. Anti-cogging is working (gimble is smooth when...

walmis•3/31/23, 5:47 AM

Hey, that's strange - DM'd

Rob EB•3/31/23, 10:34 AM

Issue resolved in double-quick time!

Thanks for your time @walmis , really appreciate everything you've done for the flight sim community with this project. Great work!

amadeus•4/1/23, 3:57 AM

so i've noticed a general issue that happens sometimes, and I am not sure how to repro it, but basically it seems that at times the configuration app just loses the ability to get telemetry from the device, everything still appears to work fine, i can apply effects and all that, and games are fine, but in the configuration app i can't see the telemetry data, and i have to basically fully unplug the rhino

amadeus•4/1/23, 3:57 AM

and plug it back in to get the telemetry data

amadeus•4/1/23, 4:00 AM

by telemetry, i mean the output you see here:

Aamadeus by telemetry, i mean the output you see here:

walmis•4/1/23, 4:54 AM

Interesting

Does it happen often?

walmis•4/1/23, 4:58 AM

And as I understand correctly you can apply config and read it back?

amadeus•4/1/23, 4:59 AM

I’d say it happens a decent amount yeah, I think usually after using the emergency switch (I generally use that when I pause to go get up and do something)

I'm still skeptical here. You're either saying to desaturate one side of the pitch axis, which would

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