Just got home to check mine out. Looks really nice. Unfortunately with the monstertech mount it does

Just got home to check mine out. Looks really nice. Unfortunately with the monstertech mount it doesn’t come with hardware. So gonna have to run to the hardware store before I can try it

Iinpayne Just got home to check mine out. Looks really nice. Unfortunately with the monst...

Anthony•4/8/23, 9:03 PM

What’s missing from what they sent you?

inpayneOP•4/8/23, 10:52 PM

Bolts and nuts to connect to the base. But no big deal really. I guess I’m not really sure if that’s to be expected or not.

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TheAmazinGreat•4/9/23, 2:46 AM

Freejoy?

Iinpayne Bolts and nuts to connect to the base. But no big deal really. I guess I’m not r...

walmis•4/9/23, 4:58 AM

Yeah, it's a good idea to start adding those along it with the plate

gigachad_numba1•4/9/23, 6:25 AM

just a question, how does the FFB feel with 200mm Virpil's extension?

Iinpayne Bolts and nuts to connect to the base. But no big deal really. I guess I’m not r...

Anthony•4/9/23, 6:33 AM

How odd, those have always been included when I’ve ordered

Ggigachad_numba1 just a question, how does the FFB feel with 200mm Virpil's extension?

Magpie•4/9/23, 7:02 AM

Good but I wouldn't turn down having stronger motors

MMagpie Good but I wouldn't turn down having stronger motors

gigachad_numba1•4/9/23, 7:10 AM

and is it possible to modify Rhino's with a stronger motor?

Magpie•4/9/23, 7:21 AM

There's a kit you can use to start making your own with stronger motors. A lot of inventive people here have taken a myriad of approaches with them

Wwalmis Yeah, it's a good idea to start adding those along it with the plate 🙂

inpayneOP•4/9/23, 12:01 PM

No biggie. But yeah doesn’t hurt!

JakeSixx33 | 744 |•4/9/23, 3:15 PM

!status

JJakeSixx33 | 744 |!status

VPforceBot•4/9/23, 3:15 PM

Hey @jakesixx33,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0073 on 2023-04-06
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 150 days, median is 190 days, max is 214 days
74 Rhinos are shipped in total

Wwalmis Yeah, it's basically standard NEMA34

Troll 🇸🇪 🇳🇴•4/9/23, 7:29 PM

@walmis can you confirm that the motor axle of the 86BLF04 is as in the picture, 12,7mm diameter with two flats?

TTroll 🇸🇪 🇳🇴@walmis can you confirm that the motor axle of the 86BLF04 is as in the picture...

walmis•4/9/23, 7:32 PM

Yep, that's correct

nospooky•4/9/23, 8:00 PM

so i have been thinking of making a ffb joystick of my own and while the hardware side is not really a problem for me i dont know much about the software side

nospooky•4/9/23, 8:01 PM

so my question was what kinda software are you using and would it also be usable for brushed motors?

Nnospooky so my question was what kinda software are you using and would it also be usable...

TheAmazinGreat•4/9/23, 9:26 PM

The kits that walmis has for sale come with all the electronics and the software used to configure the electronics can be found on the VPForce website. All the kits have brushless motors. The electronics and motors are sold together so the only DIY part of the kit is the hardware. You can not buy the motors separate from the main board or vice versa.

nospooky•4/9/23, 9:37 PM

hmm

nospooky•4/9/23, 9:37 PM

so you need the main board to even drive ant motor?

nospooky•4/9/23, 9:40 PM

would there be a possibility of me getting the data from/to the pc with a custom pcb?

TheAmazinGreat•4/9/23, 9:55 PM

The VPForce mainboard handles communication with your PC. The motors for sale here need some anti-cogging configuration which is also built in so with this kit you only need to make and attach it to a gimbal.

TheAmazinGreat•4/9/23, 9:56 PM

There is no plug and play, bring your own motor or mainboard option. I suppose you could but you would be redoing everything that has been done already for no reason.

inpayneOP•4/9/23, 11:40 PM

Is there a way to transfer the button settings from the virpil base to the vp base on DCS? Or do I gotta start from scratch on configuring all the aircraft

Iinpayne Is there a way to transfer the button settings from the virpil base to the vp ba...

Knight59•4/10/23, 12:08 AM

Gotta start over, sadly.

KKnight59 Gotta start over, sadly.

inpayneOP•4/10/23, 12:40 AM

Dang. Alright thanks.

TTheAmazinGreat There is no plug and play, bring your own motor or mainboard option. I suppose y...

nospooky•4/10/23, 12:50 AM

hmmm

nospooky•4/10/23, 12:51 AM

except money

nospooky•4/10/23, 12:52 AM

are there schematics availeble?

Nnospooky are there schematics availeble?

Naudiz•4/10/23, 1:13 AM

There’s a pdf with the Rhino base dimensions in the #

faq channel, if that’s enough

Naudiz•4/10/23, 1:13 AM

And then this from #

showcase

Nnospooky so my question was what kinda software are you using and would it also be usable...

m0jo•4/10/23, 2:51 AM

I implemented the USB HID/FFB spec on a STM32 for brushed motor. Everything in that was a pain and full of bugs, there are really few examples and the specs date from 1999. The brushed motors are also quite coggy for larger motor, they tend to be really hard to backdrive when forcing in the opposite direction, I sheared off a few couplers while testing. Using 3 phases motor with anti-cogging like the VPForce is the correct way to do it.

The very-dry specs:
https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/pid1_01_0.pdf
The USB descriptor for a normal joystick is like 100 bytes. For FFB, its like 1500 bytes, and if you got 1 byte wrong, Windows will just throw an error without telling you where it could not interpret the descriptor

NNaudiz Alright noted, the standard table-mounted MonsterTech probably isn’t gonna do th...

inpayneOP•4/10/23, 5:05 AM

I have the long length monstertech desk mount and it works just fine. It flexes a bit if you have it full strength pulling back to the stops but that’s pretty rare if ever in DCS. And I can’t tell any flex in vr. It’s plenty solid.

inpayneOP•4/10/23, 5:07 AM

Only issue is it’s pretty wide so legs go around the base and it’s probably near the limit of comfort but not bad at all. Probably better as a moms tech type chair or floor mount. But if that’s what you got like I do it works just fine. I’ve only played with it for a couple hours now but it seems like a real game changer.

Mm0jo I implemented the USB HID/FFB spec on a STM32 for brushed motor. Everything in t...

nospooky•4/10/23, 10:59 AM

Hmm I’ll have to read through that

nospooky•4/10/23, 11:01 AM

The reason im thinking of using brushed is because i have some reaaallyy nice brushed maxon motors and they’ve been rotting away without getting used for a while so I thought this would be a good use for them

Nnospooky Hmm I’ll have to read through that

Jotaele•4/10/23, 12:31 PM

Hi @nospooky , check this great project,I found it randomly on youtube.
It is based on Arduino and it works for directX standar FFB.
It look well developed and I think it may suits your maxon DC motors.

https://github.com/gagagu/Arduino_FFB_Yoke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DBrOv4p11c&t=7s

GitHub

GitHub - gagagu/Arduino_FFB_Yoke: Flightsim FFB Yoke with Arduino

Flightsim FFB Yoke with Arduino. Contribute to gagagu/Arduino_FFB_Yoke development by creating an account on GitHub.

YouTubegagagu

DIY 3d printed Arduino FFB Yoke - Testflight

It is an ongoing Project with no success guarantee.
See more Info on https://github.com/gagagu/Arduino_FFB_Yoke

If you like you can join on my Discord for questions and talk

https://discord.gg/zrYUcJWu7F

Sunshine•4/10/23, 6:26 PM

I'm pretty interested in the DIY kit so I can build it into my sim rig floor board, for a proper stock height and setup, even a dual stick setup for trainer

SSunshine I'm pretty interested in the DIY kit so I can build it into my sim rig floor boa...

mechsicko•4/10/23, 7:14 PM

In recent or upcoming software update 2 bases will be able to be slaved to each other for 2 seaters through the standard usb connection

Mmechsicko In recent or upcoming software update 2 bases will be able to be slaved to each...

Sunshine•4/10/23, 7:30 PM

Nice. I have a Brunner FFB base right now, It's good but any sustained force and it clocks out after 20 seconds

Sunshine•4/10/23, 7:31 PM

And can't really mount it to under the floor

mechsicko•4/10/23, 7:46 PM

Vpforce is light years ahead of brunner in most quantifiable categories

inpayneOP•4/11/23, 12:17 AM

So the telem app. Do I need to know python to make it work? I really don’t know what I’m doing.

Iinpayne So the telem app. Do I need to know python to make it work? I really don’t know ...

PiNKSH!T•4/11/23, 3:36 AM

Hey m8, there should now be a .exe install version of the Telem App, even without it installing isn't overly complicated. Using the Telem App itself once installed is easy, just start it before DCS, (I haven't tested it but it might work if stared after DCS too). I makes the aircraft feel a lot more alive, feeling the bumps on taxi & takeoff etc. plus you can edit the file/config for each aircraft also to add, remove or edit any of the effects.

superbird1011•4/11/23, 4:46 AM

!status

Ssuperbird1011 !status

VPforceBot•4/11/23, 4:46 AM

Hey @adam1220.,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0073 on 2023-04-06
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 150 days, median is 190 days, max is 214 days
74 Rhinos are shipped in total

superbird1011•4/11/23, 4:47 AM

Are there any plans to increase production? I totally get that you’re a one man show and super busy! Just looking forward to my unit and i know im still 190 ish away!

Ssuperbird1011 Are there any plans to increase production? I totally get that you’re a one man ...

PiNKSH!T•4/11/23, 6:07 AM

Hey m8, I can't answer for Walmis & his future plans (obviously), but his production rate has definitely increased over recent months, almost reaching 20 units per month from what I saw in a recent post. I know It's easy for me to say sitting here with my Rhino, but all I can say is it's so worth the wait imho not just the ffb effects, but the ability to customize the feel of the base per aircraft so easily by simple config changes.

Ssuperbird1011 Are there any plans to increase production? I totally get that you’re a one man ...

walmis•4/11/23, 7:55 AM

Yeah, things are improving with the supply side, so with every batch things are going faster.

VPforceBot•4/11/23, 8:19 AM

:package:

RHINO #0076 Has Shipped!

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ᛞᚨᚱᚦ ᛏᚨᚺᛖᛚ•4/11/23, 9:50 AM

Only 200 more to go

Just got home to check mine out. Looks really nice. Unfortunately with the monstertech mount it does

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