VPforce Controls•3y ago

Yeah it can be done with the telemetry software in the harrier

MagpieOP•4/9/23, 12:28 AM

I use like .05 buffering to give it a light burble

Fer•4/9/23, 1:08 AM

Ok the trim can be done with the harrier but the vibration gets stronger with more AoA can be done too ??

MagpieOP•4/9/23, 1:20 AM

Yes

Fer•4/9/23, 2:24 AM

MMagpie Yeah it can be done with the telemetry software in the harrier

Virus•4/9/23, 9:33 PM

How ?

VVirus How ?

Fer•4/9/23, 11:18 PM

Good point

MagpieOP•4/10/23, 2:09 AM

Umm so the buffet in the config file is the start of the ramp so I put that at like 11 (when the canopy starts shaking)
And the stall is the end of the ramp (maybe like 16)
And the buffet amount is how much you want to feel
Which I put at .05 because it’s got hydraulic controls

MagpieOP•4/10/23, 2:09 AM

You kinda just make up what feels good

MagpieOP•4/10/23, 2:09 AM

It doesn’t take into account variable flaps though (changing the stall aoa)

Fer•4/10/23, 2:29 AM

But the buffer increases with AoA.?

Fer•4/10/23, 2:31 AM

and how does the harrier trim can be written ??

BikerSid•4/10/23, 12:37 PM

I'll be starting the design work for my stick soon, as the lathe and mill should be operational in a few weeks.
My first question is the reduction ratio of the pulleys, what is going to work best ?

LeLv30_Superbus•4/10/23, 2:28 PM

As a side note I seem to have become a better virtual pilot since my last flightsim gear purchase

LeLv30_Superbus•4/10/23, 2:29 PM

I posted my UH-1H TelemFFB settings in the knowledge base. I'll do Mi-8 next.

Vulcan•4/10/23, 5:58 PM

After installing a throw limiter (10.5 y axis, 8.4 X axis) I was able to use force comp to resolve the Y axis (value 215) not reaching full but the X axis cant reach full deflection even with the max force comp of 255

LLeLv30_Superbus 🚁 I posted my UH-1H TelemFFB settings in the knowledge base. I'll do Mi-8 next...

ddrake1984•4/11/23, 2:53 AM

could you provide some comment lines so we know what they all mean?

VVulcan After installing a throw limiter (10.5 y axis, 8.4 X axis) I was able to use for...

walmis•4/11/23, 6:36 AM

Thanks for the feedback, indeed there's an issue when axis is scaled. I'll take a look at the maths

Rrecoilfx So I just got my Rhino kit running. Still a newb when it comes to the software. ...

walmis•4/11/23, 11:12 AM

Hey, forgot that you can scale down X axis spring globally using the spring curve/mapping feature

Jaeger•4/11/23, 12:35 PM

The TelemFFB "database" seems to get bigger every day, which is nice. I tied the UH-1 / AH-64 which I think is nice. For me there is one question, is it possible to incorporate a base "shaking", like a background noice? Maybe that can be somehow got of the main rotor whirl as simshaker for aviators does?

Jon (Bounty_V)•4/11/23, 1:18 PM

Does the AH-64 TelemFFB have effects for the main cannon below your feet firing?

JJaeger The TelemFFB "database" seems to get bigger every day, which is nice. I tied the...

walmis•4/11/23, 1:25 PM

Yeah it's possible

JJon (Bounty_V)Does the AH-64 TelemFFB have effects for the main cannon below your feet firing?

walmis•4/11/23, 1:26 PM

Yep, cannon/weapon fire effects are implemented

Jon (Bounty_V)•4/11/23, 1:26 PM

That's nifty

MagpieOP•4/11/23, 1:38 PM

[default]
type=Aircraft
buffeting_intensity = 0.05 # peak AoA buffeting intensity 0 to disable
buffet_aoa = 10 # AoA when buffeting starts
stall_aoa = 15 # Stall AoA
runway_rumble_intensity = 1.0 # peak runway intensity, 0 to disable
gun_vibration_intensity = 0.12
cm_vibration_intensity = 0.12
weapon_release_intensity = 0.12

[P-51D]
type=PropellerAircraft
buffeting_intensity = 0.0 # implemented by DCS
runway_rumble_intensity = 1.0
engine_rumble = True # rumble based on RPM

[MiG-21.]
type=JetAircraft
buffet_aoa = 8
stall_aoa = 16
buffeting_intensity = 0.05

[MiG-29.]
type=JetAircraft
buffet_aoa = 15
stall_aoa = 20
buffeting_intensity = 0.05

[FA-18C_hornet]
type=JetAircraft
runway_rumble_intensity=5.0
buffeting_intensity = 0.03
buffet_aoa = 14
stall_aoa = 23

[F-5E.]
type=JetAircraft
buffet_aoa = 11
stall_aoa = 13
buffeting_intensity = 0.05

[F-14.]
type=JetAircraft
buffet_aoa = 17
stall_aoa = 20
buffeting_intensity = 0

[MiG-19P]
type=JetAircraft
buffet_aoa = 8
stall_aoa = 22
buffeting_intensity = 0.05
gun_vibration_intensity = 0.2

[AV8BNA]
type=JetAircraft
buffet_aoa = 10
stall_aoa = 17
buffeting_intensity = 0.05

[P-47D.]
type=PropellerAircraft
buffeting_intensity = 0.0 # implemented by DCS
runway_rumble_intensity = 1.0
engine_rumble = True # rumble based on RPM

[FW-190A8]
type=PropellerAircraft
buffeting_intensity = 0.0 # implemented by DCS
runway_rumble_intensity = 1.0
engine_rumble = True # rumble based on RPM

[F-86F Sabre]
type=JetAircraft
buffet_aoa = 16
stall_aoa = 18
buffeting_intensity = 0.05

[A-10.]
type=JetAircraft
buffet_aoa = 20
stall_aoa = 24
buffeting_intensity = 0.05
gun_vibration_intensity = 0.3

[Mirage-F1.*]
type=JetAircraft
buffet_aoa = 17
stall_aoa = 20
buffeting_intensity = 0

[AJS37]
type=JetAircraft
buffet_aoa = 17
stall_aoa = 20
buffeting_intensity = 0

MagpieOP•4/11/23, 1:39 PM

config.ini2.6KB

Vulcan•4/11/23, 1:39 PM

Thanks. After installing the limiter and recalibrating, if you accidentally bump the stick while not holding it, it can enter a violent oscillation state. Do you have any recommended setting to eliminate that? I tried the damper slider on the settings page but it didn't seem to fix it. Only concerned because it might damage the base or grip as it's pretty violent.

VVulcan Thanks. After installing the limiter and recalibrating, if you accidentally bump...

walmis•4/11/23, 1:49 PM

You can try setting Spring Filter to 8-10Hz, damper filter to 5 Hz and increasing "Spring Strength proportional damping". I have defaulted to 70% currently.

Reed•4/11/23, 1:50 PM

I fly the uh-60l mod most of the time. How would I add this data. It doesn’t currently support ffb but there is a plan to.

RReed I fly the uh-60l mod most of the time. How would I add this data. It doesn’t cur...

walmis•4/11/23, 1:57 PM

You can use Hardware trim feature and add a section to the TelemFFB for the UH-60 for the extra effects

Reed•4/11/23, 2:00 PM

Nice, when I get my unit, i may need help doing this. I onlly rotorwing, so huey, 64, 60, mi8, etc.

Wwalmis Hey, forgot that you can scale down X axis spring globally using the spring curv...

recoilfx•4/11/23, 2:00 PM

While I can scale it down, doesn't it get overriden by the game unless it's made sticky? But if I made it sticky, then variable spring force from the game no longer works. It would be nice to have separate spring X Y gains on the settings tab.

Rrecoilfx While I can scale it down, doesn't it get overriden by the game unless it's made...

walmis•4/11/23, 2:10 PM

The curve - no. It will stay for all springs. No need to sticky the effect.

recoilfx•4/11/23, 2:23 PM

Ahhh. Ok, great, I'll give it try! Thanks!

RReed I fly the uh-60l mod most of the time. How would I add this data. It doesn’t cur...

LeLv30_Superbus•4/11/23, 3:05 PM

I don't know how trim works in a real UH-60L but you can trim it just like a Huey with Walmis' hardware force trim even if the module author ignored FFB. Should work for any

really? For ETL, just add a couple of lines to TelemFFB config.ini and you're set. Walmis made everything so easy for us

LeLv30_Superbus•4/11/23, 3:07 PM

You can copy etl_ ... lines from any chopper and replace the airspeed values (they're in m/s)

LeLv30_Superbus•4/11/23, 3:08 PM

And the same for overspeed ofc

Wwalmis Yeah it's possible

Jaeger•4/11/23, 4:52 PM

Is it already in somewhere and just need a parameter or would it needed to be implemented first?

MMagpie Click to see attachment

amadeus•4/11/23, 7:45 PM

you should post this here: https://canary.discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1093558100713279508

Merlins51•4/11/23, 11:50 PM

Am having an issue with the F-16 and want to see if anyone else is experiencing this: On the F-16, the pitch axis spring force feels much weaker than the roll axis. I don't experience that on any other module. Anyone else experiencing that?

MagpieOP•4/12/23, 12:27 AM

I didn't even try the F16 with this.
I usually use a side stick for it
Its a FBW jet with a force sensor irl so dcs just makes something up in the absence of an expensive force sensing stick. Feel free to mess with the curves as much as you like, you're not going to get any approximation of realistic feel with our stick

PiNKSH!T•4/12/23, 4:21 AM

Buy Rhino & Winwing MFSSB & there's not many aircraft left you can't emulate

ddrake1984•4/12/23, 4:22 AM

I want to see more warbird type grips, like the things Replika teased and never released

Dddrake1984 I want to see more warbird type grips, like the things Replika teased and never ...

PiNKSH!T•4/12/23, 4:29 AM

I just want a Yak or LAG spade grip!

PPiNKSH!T I just want a Yak or LAG spade grip!

ddrake1984•4/12/23, 4:32 AM

omfg, yes, that's all I want too

ddrake1984•4/12/23, 4:32 AM

well.. all I want to start with

PiNKSH!T•4/12/23, 4:34 AM

The Authentickit Spitfire grip looks good 'n all, but one of those Yak/Lag grips would also do the spitfire but not the reverse. Oh they looked so dam good on the YT video too

PPiNKSH!T The Authentickit Spitfire grip looks good 'n all, but one of those Yak/Lag grips...

ddrake1984•4/12/23, 4:34 AM

it is a nice grip, but can't be attached to anything other than AK (unless you modify)

Dddrake1984 it is a nice grip, but can't be attached to anything other than AK (unless you m...

PiNKSH!T•4/12/23, 4:37 AM

yeah that's something that's kept it on the back burner for me, just need someone to make a TM adapted version then we'd be set, guess I could try frakenstine some Yak type controls onto the spitfire grip?

TheAmazinGreat•4/12/23, 12:00 PM

The Russian spade grip was something I always wanted to model but had a hard time finding dimensions/specs. I always marveled at how Replika did it. Maybe he was like the bf109 guy from the AK discord who has access to a 1:1 plane and was able to go sit in the cockpit to take dimensions.

TheAmazinGreat•4/12/23, 12:01 PM

I even considered trying to pull a model from the IL2 game files but got burned out researching and sidetracked on another project

Yeah it can be done with the telemetry software in the harrier

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