So I just got my Rhino kit running. Still a newb when it comes to the software. Is there a way to gl

So I just got my Rhino kit running. Still a newb when it comes to the software. Is there a way to globally tune tune down the X spring force? It seems like whatever values done at the effects tab get overwritten by programs such as DCS. Should I be using TelemFFB?

Rrecoilfx So I just got my Rhino kit running. Still a newb when it comes to the software. ...

walmis•4/3/23, 12:07 PM

Yes, the sliders in the Settings tab adjust global strengths

recoilfxOP•4/3/23, 12:10 PM

Right, but I specifically want to tune down the X axis of the spring force, which I think the Settings tab doesn't have right?

SundogZeus•4/3/23, 7:21 PM

Hi Walmis. Just got my Rhino and am testing it. Very impressed by the build quality and ease of setup so far. I have a question though. I have a Virpil T50 grip attached and I can’t seem to make it recognize the analog brake axis. (Pinky lever). Any ideas? I tried the windows USB controller calibration but it doesn’t seem to want to calibrate that axis

SSundogZeus Hi Walmis. Just got my Rhino and am testing it. Very impressed by the build qual...

Mike (Mugs)•4/3/23, 8:02 PM

I think mine just worked when i used the axis assignment in dcs

SSundogZeus Hi Walmis. Just got my Rhino and am testing it. Very impressed by the build qual...

walmis•4/3/23, 8:22 PM

Hi, you need to activate the VPC T-50 profile in the VPforce configurator and calibrate it there too.

walmis•4/3/23, 8:23 PM

SundogZeus•4/3/23, 8:49 PM

Ah. Didn’t see that. Thanks so much for the quick reply! It’s working great now

Rails•4/3/23, 8:55 PM

getting an error message for the end stop setting. "Motor X: Fault_Unexpected_D_Current" any help?

walmis•4/3/23, 9:17 PM

Ahh, protection kicking in. I'll tweak the firmware tomorrow.

Rails•4/3/23, 9:30 PM

thank you. also i'm getting an input on button one whenever i'm moving the stick from one extreme to the other. would this be on my end?

Rails•4/3/23, 10:09 PM

if i hold button 1 down and move the stick it switches to a different button

recoilfxOP•4/4/23, 3:35 AM

Hnmm, I'm not getting any analog axis on the F-16 WinWing grip. The grip type is set to WinWing adapter, and the buttons all work. But none of the analog axis is working. When set to debug mode, the last 9 bits are always 00. Is there something else in the setting I need to set?

Rrecoilfx Hnmm, I'm not getting any analog axis on the F-16 WinWing grip. The grip type is...

walmis•4/4/23, 4:40 AM

Maybe you need to calibrate it with a wingwing base? I think WW stores calibration in the grip.

Rrecoilfx Hnmm, I'm not getting any analog axis on the F-16 WinWing grip. The grip type is...

TrigaNZ•4/4/23, 4:55 AM

I found mine worked in game but showed differently in VP

Rob EB•4/4/23, 9:56 AM

@walmis I've printed and fitted an 11 degree version of the throw limiter (thanks for making it available!). After running the auto calibration I'm finding the throw is shorter with master gain back at 100%. If I set master gain to 0% the throw reaches the newly calibrated full deflection. I haven't checked if it's related to a particular force effect yet, only master gain after I noticed the shorter throw.

Rob EB•4/4/23, 9:58 AM

Deflection as shown in the axis graph in the configuration app (the physical deflection isn't affected). I also see the same reduced throw in other joystick testers.

RRob EB @walmis I've printed and fitted an 11 degree version of the throw limiter (thank...

walmis•4/4/23, 10:33 AM

Hey, check out the Force comp.Force comp. parameter, it should help with this issue. Recommend to try the Rhino defaults.

leninjahd•4/4/23, 11:40 AM

https://youtu.be/VWhBPxSUwyo When using Friction my Stick "wiggles" all the time

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Lleninjahd https://youtu.be/VWhBPxSUwyo When using Friction my Stick "wiggles" all the time

walmis•4/4/23, 11:58 AM

You need to open up the "Tune" dialog for friction and play around with the values to get a stable response, also you may need to increase the filter bandwidth, try 8-10 Hz.

Wwalmis You need to open up the "Tune" dialog for friction and play around with the valu...

leninjahd•4/4/23, 12:00 PM

works with P = 2

Wwalmis Maybe you need to calibrate it with a wingwing base? I think WW stores calibrat...

recoilfxOP•4/4/23, 12:03 PM

Yep! Re-calibrating the grip with WW's base worked! I guess somehow the stored value got messed up.

recoilfxOP•4/4/23, 12:03 PM

Thank you so much!

Rrecoilfx Yep! Re-calibrating the grip with WW's base worked! I guess somehow the stored v...

PiNKSH!T•4/4/23, 12:07 PM

So I won't be able to buy just the WW grip I'll need the base too for calibrating it? Thank sux, I wonder if Virpil is the same?

walmis•4/4/23, 12:26 PM

Not sure, might work out of the box. First time I heard this instance.

PPiNKSH!T So I won't be able to buy just the WW grip I'll need the base too for calibratin...

recoilfxOP•4/4/23, 12:55 PM

Yeah, it seems like that might be the best case, at least for me. Everything was working on the WW base before I transplanted it to the Rhino. Buttons works, but not the axis. Then, I went back to WW's base and recalibrated it and all the axis are working now. It could also be that I was working from a motor/pcb kit and had do the wire harness myself, and somehow that tripped the grip's memory during the whole process, so the calibration value had to be redone. In any case, I think it would be prudent to get the base.

Wwalmis Not sure, might work out of the box. First time I heard this instance.

PiNKSH!T•4/4/23, 1:14 PM

would it be possible to implement this type of calibration into the Rhino software in the future?

AndyHill•4/4/23, 1:44 PM

the manual needs stuff on how to use the ww adapter, btw

PPiNKSH!T So I won't be able to buy just the WW grip I'll need the base too for calibratin...

Knight59•4/4/23, 3:08 PM

Virpil doesn't require this and all axis can be calibrated in the VPForce config tool.

KKnight59 Virpil doesn't require this and all axis can be calibrated in the VPForce config...

Beathmeister•4/4/23, 3:37 PM

That’s my experience. The DLC axis on the VFX grip works a charm. I can finally wrestle the cat down to the deck!

Wwalmis Not sure, might work out of the box. First time I heard this instance.

Mike (Mugs)•4/4/23, 4:19 PM

Worked for me out of the box, got my ww f16 grip a couple of days ago

SundogZeus•4/4/23, 4:27 PM

Is anyone experiencing crashes on mission load in DCS 2.8 OB? Seems to be a problem with helicopters. Wondering if I have a conflict somewhere in DCS settings.

walmis•4/4/23, 4:40 PM

try checking the dcs.log file

SSundogZeus Is anyone experiencing crashes on mission load in DCS 2.8 OB? Seems to be a prob...

miki•4/4/23, 6:25 PM

When did you update? Is mission made before update? And are you trying single thread or multi thread version?

Mmiki When did you update? Is mission made before update? And are you trying single th...

SundogZeus•4/4/23, 7:45 PM

Seems to be related to VR. No issues with 2D. Still debugging. #

SundogZeus•4/4/23, 7:47 PM

Next question is: I only get stick shake effects on WW2 aircraft. Are there supposed to be periodic effects like stick shaker or weapon effects in DCS for modern aircraft?

LeLv30_Superbus•4/4/23, 8:17 PM

No "DCS-wide" effects. Everything is up to the module author. Some modern jets have some effects others have nothing. I don't expect there to be weapons effects while firing in any modern jet. I hear anything by Heatblur has a good FFB implementation (F-14, soon F-4).

SSundogZeus Seems to be related to VR. No issues with 2D. Still debugging. #

miki•4/4/23, 8:20 PM

I have same issues with some missions when I run MT version

LLeLv30_Superbus No "DCS-wide" effects. Everything is up to the module author. Some modern jets h...

SundogZeus•4/4/23, 8:33 PM

That’s what I figured. Thanks for that.

Mmiki I have same issues with some missions when I run MT version

SundogZeus•4/4/23, 8:34 PM

Ok. Good to know. It may have been a mod conflict.

SSundogZeus Next question is: I only get stick shake effects on WW2 aircraft. Are there supp...

walmis•4/5/23, 6:19 AM

TelemFFB is the answer to this lack of implemention from DCS side.

Wwalmis TelemFFB is the answer to this lack of implemention from DCS side. 🙂

Naudiz•4/5/23, 7:39 AM

Does TelemFFB respect individual modules? Or is it something you adjust yourself?

NNaudiz Does TelemFFB respect individual modules? Or is it something you adjust yourself...

walmis•4/5/23, 7:40 AM

It can be configured per aircraft

Wwalmis It can be configured per aircraft

Naudiz•4/5/23, 7:41 AM

Cool, cheers

NNaudiz Cool, cheers

ddrake1984•4/5/23, 8:03 AM

Well.. it can be, but there is no real instruction

Dddrake1984 Well.. it can be, but there is no real instruction

Naudiz•4/5/23, 8:18 AM

Does it come with presets per aircraft?

walmis•4/5/23, 8:22 AM

You can check it out, it's open source.
https://github.com/walmis/VPforce-TelemFFB
https://github.com/walmis/VPforce-TelemFFB/blob/master/config.ini

Merlins51•4/5/23, 7:14 PM

Is there any chance of an executable for TelemFFB? Have tried following the instructions to install it but can't get it to run.

MMerlins51 Is there any chance of an executable for TelemFFB? Have tried following the ins...

walmis•4/5/23, 7:19 PM

You can find it in the releases section: https://github.com/walmis/VPforce-TelemFFB/releases/tag/v0.1.3

Merlins51•4/5/23, 7:20 PM

You beautiful man!!

recoilfxOP•4/6/23, 2:12 PM

I am trying to figure out ways to have independent spring X and Y forces in DCS per aircraft. From my cursory reading of the code, so far TelemFFB have two man effects, periodic and constant, but no spring effect. Is it possible to get the spring effect implemented in the future?

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