I didn't even try the F16 with this. I usually use a side stick for it Its a FBW jet with a force se

I didn't even try the F16 with this.
I usually use a side stick for it
Its a FBW jet with a force sensor irl so dcs just makes something up in the absence of an expensive force sensing stick. Feel free to mess with the curves as much as you like, you're not going to get any approximation of realistic feel with our stick

PiNKSH!T•4/12/23, 4:21 AM

Buy Rhino & Winwing MFSSB & there's not many aircraft left you can't emulate

ddrake1984•4/12/23, 4:22 AM

I want to see more warbird type grips, like the things Replika teased and never released

Dddrake1984 I want to see more warbird type grips, like the things Replika teased and never ...

PiNKSH!T•4/12/23, 4:29 AM

I just want a Yak or LAG spade grip!

PPiNKSH!T I just want a Yak or LAG spade grip!

ddrake1984•4/12/23, 4:32 AM

omfg, yes, that's all I want too

ddrake1984•4/12/23, 4:32 AM

well.. all I want to start with

PiNKSH!T•4/12/23, 4:34 AM

The Authentickit Spitfire grip looks good 'n all, but one of those Yak/Lag grips would also do the spitfire but not the reverse. Oh they looked so dam good on the YT video too

PPiNKSH!T The Authentickit Spitfire grip looks good 'n all, but one of those Yak/Lag grips...

ddrake1984•4/12/23, 4:34 AM

it is a nice grip, but can't be attached to anything other than AK (unless you modify)

Dddrake1984 it is a nice grip, but can't be attached to anything other than AK (unless you m...

PiNKSH!T•4/12/23, 4:37 AM

yeah that's something that's kept it on the back burner for me, just need someone to make a TM adapted version then we'd be set, guess I could try frakenstine some Yak type controls onto the spitfire grip?

TheAmazinGreat•4/12/23, 12:00 PM

The Russian spade grip was something I always wanted to model but had a hard time finding dimensions/specs. I always marveled at how Replika did it. Maybe he was like the bf109 guy from the AK discord who has access to a 1:1 plane and was able to go sit in the cockpit to take dimensions.

TheAmazinGreat•4/12/23, 12:01 PM

I even considered trying to pull a model from the IL2 game files but got burned out researching and sidetracked on another project

inpayne•4/13/23, 1:10 PM

Is the base sensitive enough to set up a f16 setting in the future? Like have it full stiff centered, and it could move like a psuedo fsb?

walmis•4/13/23, 1:13 PM

Yeah, it's possible to tweak it enough with the current implementation so it's a pseudo fssb. The trick is to get it stable enough so it doesn't oscillate

Naudiz•4/13/23, 11:57 PM

How would that work? By the motors detecting how much resistance they have to provide for the stick to not move, maybe?

Laur•4/14/23, 12:18 AM

Hey guys. I just put through a reservation. There was a category called accessories. Is that accessories that will come with the base or which accessories we already have?

LLaur Hey guys. I just put through a reservation. There was a category called accessor...

TheAmazinGreat•4/14/23, 12:46 AM

It should be what you want to come with it.

Laur•4/14/23, 12:46 AM

Thank you kind sir

TheAmazinGreat•4/14/23, 12:47 AM

No problem, welcome to the team!

NNaudiz How would that work? By the motors detecting how much resistance they have to pr...

walmis•4/14/23, 9:15 AM

You would set a very small movement range and the spring force would be proportional to throw

Wwalmis You would set a very small movement range and the spring force would be proporti...

Naudiz•4/14/23, 11:47 AM

So it'll still have physical movement, not just force against the motors?

walmis•4/14/23, 11:51 AM

Yeah you would still have some physical movement

Naudiz•4/14/23, 11:51 AM

Ah alright, still pretty cool that it can emulate it to an extent

Naudiz•4/14/23, 11:51 AM

Is the software aware of how much force the motors are applying?

walmis•4/14/23, 11:52 AM

yeah, motor Amps == Torque

Naudiz•4/14/23, 11:52 AM

would be kinda fun to see if it could be emulated through the software then, but I probably don't have the know-how

Wwalmis Yeah you would still have some physical movement

PiNKSH!T•4/14/23, 11:53 AM

well that's all good, it's supposed to move a little bit, the F16 side grip moves a little bit

PPiNKSH!T well that's all good, it's supposed to move a little bit, the F16 side grip move...

Naudiz•4/14/23, 11:54 AM

I think the F-16 stick moves due to feel, since it felt too unnatural for it not to give any response at all

NNaudiz I think the F-16 stick moves due to feel, since it felt too unnatural for it not...

PiNKSH!T•4/14/23, 11:56 AM

yeah that's what I've heard in different docos etc. the force sensing stick was different enough for some pilots & to add on top the stick didn't move at all it ended up being changed to move a few mm in the x & y axis

LeeH•4/14/23, 12:03 PM

hey @walmis, lee from ars technica here - apologies for the bother, but would it be possible to swap a few e-mails back and forth? i've got a preorder in and I'm interested in reviewing the VPForce on Ars, and wanted to be able to send a few questions your way.

LeeH•4/14/23, 12:03 PM

(no worries if not, I don't want to be a pest or anything!)

Troll 🇸🇪 🇳🇴•4/14/23, 1:38 PM

@walmis how do you connect the kill switch? Does it cut the power from the power supply, or just the power to the motors?

TTroll 🇸🇪 🇳🇴@walmis how do you connect the kill switch? Does it cut the power from the power...

walmis•4/14/23, 1:39 PM

It kills the positive line from the power supply

LLeeH hey @walmis, lee from ars technica here - apologies for the bother, but would it...

walmis•4/14/23, 1:39 PM

Sure, shoot me a DM

ddrake1984•4/14/23, 1:46 PM

https://youtu.be/O_MZ5aGxvcI

YouTubeAirlinePilot2008

F-16 flight control self test

I had some extra time while performing an engine run on one of our jets in Iraq, so I ran a flight control self test just to weed out any problems and ensure that everything else was ready to go on the jet so we could return it to service for its next mission. Once I "warm up" the flight controls and engage the self test, the flight control comp...

ddrake1984•4/14/23, 1:49 PM

https://youtube.com/shorts/YCLCzoZb3H0?feature=share

YouTubeaviatrix99

USAF Female F-16 pilot Capt Zoe Kotnik, New Viper Demo Team Member

USAF Female F-16 pilot Capt Zoe Kotnik describes the throttle and stick of viper
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MMagpie I didn't even try the F16 with this. I usually use a side stick for it Its a FBW...

Merlins51•4/14/23, 10:40 PM

No arguments that the stick isn't ideal for the F-16. But, given that it's the only joystick I currently use, and can't be used without the power on, I wanted to see whether the issue I had was in my setup or in the module. Anyone else experience different spring force for the F-16 in pitch vs roll?

skyPickle•4/15/23, 1:25 AM

using the lateswt telem. Is there a solution to this error in the cmd window:

skyPickle•4/15/23, 1:25 AM

2023-04-14 20:42:25 - INFO - Open Rhino HID FFFF:2055
2023-04-14 20:42:25 - INFO - Listening on UDP :34380
Exception in thread Thread-2:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\Python311\Lib\threading.py", line 1038, in _bootstrap_inner
self.run()
File "F:\Dropbox[DCS\Joysticks\VPforce-TelemFFB\main.py", line 163, in run
config.reload()
^^^^^^
NameError: name 'config' is not defined

skyPickle•4/15/23, 1:26 AM

got that error trying to fly the Dora

MMerlins51 No arguments that the stick isn't ideal for the F-16. But, given that it's the ...

walmis•4/15/23, 5:23 AM

DCS for some reason sets spring coefficients that way.

SskyPickle 2023-04-14 20:42:25 - INFO - Open Rhino HID FFFF:2055 2023-04-14 20:42:25 - INFO...

walmis•4/15/23, 5:29 AM

Most likely it failed to find the config ini file for some reason

Keksstar•4/15/23, 3:14 PM

Hi, I want to integrate my custom joystick grip into the Rhino base... Shift register would be the easy route, but it´s not suitable for me as I also have thumbsticks on it which gives potentiometer values that I would like to use. Shift register is just an "on/off". Is there an "protocol" that I can use to send data from an Arduino via SPI to the Rhino?

Troll 🇸🇪 🇳🇴•4/15/23, 3:35 PM

@walmis what specs should the emergency kill switch have? I’m considering using a latching normally closed push button.

walmis•4/15/23, 3:37 PM

it should handle around 4A avg, 10A peak

PiNKSH!T•4/15/23, 3:52 PM

Hey Walmis m8 what's an "average" temp for the motors for use over a few hours, not sustained hard forces the entire time but steady use with burst of hard usage (typical flight sim use really)? Would the mid 40° be alright?

KKeksstar Hi, I want to integrate my custom joystick grip into the Rhino base... Shift reg...

TheAmazinGreat•4/15/23, 4:09 PM

Check out this reply and my other comment below it. This may help you, if you want to do your own Arduino SPI slave, I can help.

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TTheAmazinGreat Check out this reply and my other comment below it. This may help you, if you wa...

Keksstar•4/15/23, 4:14 PM

Well, I already have everything wired up with an Arduino. I want to bring this into the Rhino to have an complete unit without the need to run additional cables and configure another joystick... So things get more cleaner and I only have "one" device to configure

TheAmazinGreat•4/15/23, 4:15 PM

Does your arduino communicate with your PC via USB?

TTheAmazinGreat Does your arduino communicate with your PC via USB?

Keksstar•4/15/23, 4:23 PM

yup, it does

TTheAmazinGreat Does your arduino communicate with your PC via USB?

Keksstar•4/15/23, 4:23 PM

but would be neater to have it all integrated into the Rhino itself

KKeksstar but would be neater to have it all integrated into the Rhino itself

TheAmazinGreat•4/15/23, 4:25 PM

Just wanting to understand your setup so I can answer your question as best as possible. So you use the Rhino connected via USB and your custom grip is connected via a second USB. Is that right?

I didn't even try the F16 with this. I usually use a side stick for it Its a FBW jet with a force se

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