Don't get me wrong, the standard sized motors on the Rhino are powerful, 9Nm peak torque is no small

Don't get me wrong, the standard sized motors on the Rhino are powerful, 9Nm peak torque is no small amount, just thinking about the extra linkages/length connecting it up to two separate sticks, although something I'm keen so find out is; using the Telem app in a twin seat would two separate Rhinos act like they were linked?

PPiNKSH!T Don't get me wrong, the standard sized motors on the Rhino are powerful, 9Nm pea...

walmis•4/13/23, 10:02 AM

Yeah I have this feature planned in the future

PPiNKSH!T Don't get me wrong, the standard sized motors on the Rhino are powerful, 9Nm pea...

Anthony•4/13/23, 11:39 AM

Sounds like someone is fixing to take the game of “whack! Fuck!” into flight sims?

Anthony•4/13/23, 11:39 AM

Jon (Bounty_V)•4/13/23, 11:49 AM

I can't wait for the CH-47 in DCS specifically for this feature

legobirds•4/13/23, 12:36 PM

@guicans nice to see you here bro

SSpatz Can someone please tell me what FFB effects we have with the Rhino in Modernjets

inpayne•4/13/23, 1:09 PM

Most of the modern jets are fbw so not a whole lot. -a lot of the Cold War planes are supported well. Warbirds and helicopters especially are beneficial with the ffb. The modern jets it just becomes basically a high end spring stick. It’s very versatile.

SSpatz Can someone please tell me what FFB effects we have with the Rhino in Modernjets

PiNKSH!TOP•4/13/23, 1:19 PM

As inpayne has stated, most of the more modern jets are Fly-By-Wire, but in DCS the ffb effects depend on the module maker, otherwise you can use the VPforce Telemetry App to give all aircraft basic ffb effects & you can further edit what effects are felt by each aircraft & at what points the effects are felt, although this isn't as easy as changing the Rhino base's config per aircraft, it can be done. Some of the effects might not be realistic eg. the FBW f-18 when using the telem app will give ffb effects for things like weapon release, guns, ground texture on taxi/takeoff, now some of those effects might come through the stick in a fbw jet, some might not, some effects might be felt more though the seat or the aircrafts body but it definitely adds to immersion.

PiNKSH!TOP•4/13/23, 1:21 PM

Also just the amount of options for creating a unique feeling stick for each aircraft is one of the best things about the Rhino

Jon (Bounty_V)•4/13/23, 1:22 PM

What is already available on offer is great, and I look forward to what the future holds for the Rhino and software

Jon (Bounty_V)•4/13/23, 1:58 PM

Guys new plane to test in DCS, just added FFB support

Jon (Bounty_V)•4/13/23, 1:58 PM

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/news/changelog/openbeta/2.8.4.38947/

DCS 2.8.4.38947 Open Beta

Vulcan•4/13/23, 2:24 PM

So aviodev can implement ffb but razbums can't be bothered?

VVulcan So aviodev can implement ffb but razbums can't be bothered?

Naudiz•4/13/23, 2:58 PM

More likely that none of the razbam crew have an FFB stick

Jon (Bounty_V)•4/13/23, 3:30 PM

dont have, and dont know how or what its supposed to feel like is stated reasons

Jon (Bounty_V)•4/13/23, 3:30 PM

all of which are definitely fixable on their end they just cba

Jon (Bounty_V)•4/13/23, 3:31 PM

The only Razbam module I really really want is the M2000C, but there's so many other wonderful modules I already own to play around in first

DeltaVJ•4/13/23, 4:19 PM

M2000c can't have ffb since it's a full fbw plane, only thing would be the elastic limit on pitch axis

harf4ng•4/13/23, 5:04 PM

on the order page, what is the difference between the vpforce order request and the vpforce rhino preorder? thanks

harf4ng•4/13/23, 5:07 PM

the first page is for accessories?

Warwolf09•4/13/23, 5:55 PM

!status

WWarwolf09 !status

VPforceBot•4/13/23, 5:55 PM

Hey @warwolf09,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0079 on 2023-04-12
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 154 days, median is 191 days, max is 216 days
78 Rhinos are shipped in total

harf4ng•4/13/23, 5:56 PM

800 for the rhino is with or without vat ?

Jon (Bounty_V)•4/13/23, 6:16 PM

without

Jon (Bounty_V)•4/13/23, 6:16 PM

thats base price for everyone

Jon (Bounty_V)•4/13/23, 6:16 PM

before vat, shipping, import fees, etc.

harf4ng•4/13/23, 6:16 PM

This is the price in euros ?

Jon (Bounty_V)•4/13/23, 6:17 PM

it says euros yes

Jon (Bounty_V)•4/13/23, 6:17 PM

faq

harf4ng•4/13/23, 6:19 PM

OK thanks. In France that would lead to 960€ with vat then.

Hharf4ng OK thanks. In France that would lead to 960€ with vat then.

walmis•4/13/23, 6:44 PM

800€ is the final price for everyone

Mongo•4/13/23, 7:17 PM

Has anyone had any success with this system and WinWing sticks?

Vulcan•4/13/23, 7:21 PM

Yes it works as you would expect

AAnthony The VPC one?

LeLv30_Superbus•4/13/23, 7:37 PM

Nope, it's a VKB

VVulcan Yes it works as you would expect

Mongo•4/13/23, 7:52 PM

So only after many hours of cussing, crying and praying to the Machine God?

Vulcan•4/13/23, 7:55 PM

Its set it and forget it, I think the only issues people have reported in here with the winwing adapter is not having a winwing base to change stick settings that get written to the grip, like if your axis is acting as a button but you want it to be an axis

Vulcan•4/13/23, 7:56 PM

Not really a fault of the adapter

MMongo Has anyone had any success with this system and WinWing sticks?

Mike (Mugs)•4/13/23, 7:57 PM

Yes have both the F18 and F16/A-10 Grip, like them both but pref the F16 Grip

LLeLv30_Superbus Nope, it's a VKB

Anthony•4/13/23, 7:58 PM

Oh well, rather (or rather, extremely) similar!

Not giving you too much throw then?

NNaudiz More likely that none of the razbam crew have an FFB stick

Stoned Kakapo•4/13/23, 8:19 PM

I offered to send them a ffb stick for the harrier, all I got were crickets. So I second the razbum sentiment

AAnthony Oh well, rather (or rather, extremely) similar! Not giving you too much throw t...

LeLv30_Superbus•4/13/23, 8:42 PM

Yes Rhino has luxurious throw, but I planned ahead (images if you scroll back). I did order a throw limiter too, but I forgot to ask for any left-right limit

so I just use software end-stops. They work just fine! I can even calibrate the entire throw if needed, because my front panel is hinged and my legs move out of the way. But if your simpit hardware gets in the way, definitely print a limiter or order one with your Rhino, it's just 5€.

LeLv30_Superbus•4/13/23, 8:43 PM

(And my Ikea chair isn't bolted down either.)

LLeLv30_Superbus Yes Rhino has luxurious throw, but I planned ahead (images if you scroll back). ...

Anthony•4/13/23, 8:45 PM

Yeah, not many numbers off now, but can't figure out a way to calculate what limits to specify

Laur•4/13/23, 11:58 PM

Hey guys. I just put through a reservation. There was a category called accessories. Is that accessories that will come with the base or which accessories we already have?

inpayne•4/14/23, 1:39 AM

No tax just shipping which was 86.67 euros that plus the 35 base equaled 919.67 euro

inpayne•4/14/23, 1:40 AM

And it came within a few days of paying

Guicans•4/14/23, 2:35 AM

Hi, is there anyone from China or Asia have purchased one? Not sure whether the shipping is available or not.

Wwalmis 800€ is the final price for everyone

superbird1011•4/14/23, 4:07 AM

Is this price expected to increase between now and my order #200 ish

superbird1011•4/14/23, 4:11 AM

Heres a question chaps. In the simracing world there are two schools of thought for FFB, Realistic and Immersive. Realistic is the feedback you’d actually expect from the wheel. Immersive makes up for the lack of motion/other feelings by amplifying effects through the stick.

Now, on an ffb flight stick, would you prefer realistic (FBW stick feels dead, warbird stick super shaky and gets harder over time) OR immersive (Feeling the runway bumps through the stick, feeling higher speed being harder to move even with fbw planes, increased stall buffets, damage pulls, really anything that you might normally feel through the plane not the stick)

Ssuperbird1011 Is this price expected to increase between now and my order #200 ish

walmis•4/14/23, 4:28 AM

I would say unlikely

Wwalmis I would say unlikely 🙂

superbird1011•4/14/23, 4:30 AM

i am very hyped. Even if i have like, half a year to a year until i get mine

Don't get me wrong, the standard sized motors on the Rhino are powerful, 9Nm peak torque is no small

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