Hello all, small question; i like to put myself on the waiting list for one but i have a question re

Hello all, small question; i like to put myself on the waiting list for one but i have a question regarding IL2; does it work OK with IL2 great battle (out of the box) or does it need some 'thinkering' ?

BBadKarma Hello all, small question; i like to put myself on the waiting list for one but ...

PiNKSH!T•4/25/23, 9:02 AM

Hey m8 the Rhino works awesome with IL2 out of the box!

PiNKSH!T•4/25/23, 9:03 AM

You get ground texture on taxi/take-off/landing. buffeting with gear down, flaps & AoA etc. the stick moves with trim, weapon effects like gun/cannon shake

PiNKSH!T•4/25/23, 9:08 AM

also it gives a really good amount of resistance with the 9nm torque, with a light grip like the vkb Kg12 & a 200mm extension I get a really nice feeling stick, it's not like I'm using two hands & bending the extension when trying to pull out of a dive

but still more than I got with my VKB gunfighter 3

PiNKSH!T•4/25/23, 9:12 AM

also you can customize the stick feel per aircraft if you wish by making multiple config profiles in the VPforce software & you can swap between them on the go, this lets you change the stick feel per aircraft if you wish to, making it feel lighter or heavier, even change the length of throw for the +/- of the X & Y axis in the software (the Rhino has a huge length of throw, I think like ~40°)

BadKarmaOP•4/25/23, 9:38 AM

thanks for the explanation! much appreciated

BadKarmaOP•4/25/23, 9:39 AM

using bass shakers & VR atm, which is awesome but always looking for more immersion

VPforceBot•4/25/23, 10:50 AM

:package:

RHINO #0084 Has Shipped!

BBadKarma using bass shakers & VR atm, which is awesome but always looking for more immers...

PiNKSH!T•4/25/23, 12:22 PM

Yeah I'm aiming for a jetseat or NLR HF8 & bass shakers, would love a seat mover eventually or even an actual motion rig, but those are big asks. A decent 'cockpit' set up to mount everything to, a decent chair, Rhino, Jetseat & Bass Shakers will add a lot of immersion

PPiNKSH!T Yeah I'm aiming for a jetseat or NLR HF8 & bass shakers, would love a seat mover...

BadKarmaOP•4/25/23, 12:23 PM

look at Simukit.com, if you're in the EU you can get a seat mover for 590€

BadKarmaOP•4/25/23, 12:24 PM

its a kit, but very doable with everything included (Arduino, motors, cables,...)

BadKarmaOP•4/25/23, 12:24 PM

can handle 120kg so fixing a joystick and throttle should be doable

BBadKarma look at Simukit.com, if you're in the EU you can get a seat mover for 590€

PiNKSH!T•4/25/23, 12:27 PM

ooooh that sounds doable! not right now, got a few other things I wana do first, ffb rudder & yoke, plus I need to do a couple PC upgrades too

BadKarmaOP•4/25/23, 12:27 PM

life is about choices

Kkingjamez I don't see an "off topic" but if you are looking for a laser that can cut an en...

JakeSixx33 | 744 |•4/25/23, 12:36 PM

Just started looking into these for the workbench. Seems most pit builders that are posting have decided 40w is what is needed for panel building to cut acrylic. Very interested in hearing other experiences with this.

JJakeSixx33 | 744 |Just started looking into these for the workbench. Seems most pit builders that ...

kingjamez•4/25/23, 1:08 PM

For cutting acrylic a 40W Co2 laser is superior since it can cut clear acrylic and a diode laser like this can only cut colored acrylic. I have a Co2 laser as well, but it's upkeep and tuning is significantly more cumbersome so I vastly prefer to use the diode laser where possible. For cutting thin plywood, engraving / cutting dark acrylic, cutting templates the diode is just so much better. Co2 needs water cooling, mirror alignment on an invisible beam, and getting the focus perfect is a chore.

Ye Old Grog•4/25/23, 2:51 PM

That does look interesting.
I would want one I could cut aluminum/steel with though.
Having spent almost zero time looking into it, is there even an option?

kingjamez•4/25/23, 3:32 PM

To actually cut metal, you'd need a high power fiber laser. I have a low power fiber laser that can mark aluminum and steel (and any metal) but cutting is a whole 'nother ball game. I can make the little serial number aluminum badges like you see on the side of the Rhino, but cutting that out of a sheet of aluminum would take a multi-ten-thousand dollar machine. Jobs like that are better suited for plasma cutters or waterjets. For me, using services like send-cut-send or bigbluesaw are the best bet when large metal cuts are required. I have a large CNC machine, and use it when doing complex jobs, but for sheet aluminum / steel (like the frame of a joystick) using the online services is just so easy.

Admiral Nomura•4/25/23, 8:42 PM

@walmis Hi Walmis, is it by any chance possible to purchase the two toothed wheels and the belt from you, or at least know where to obtain the belt? I'd like to power pedals with your motor kit and (if possible) also a steering wheel. I also saw a mention about a printable physical stop/limiter of the throw. Where can I find that, or at least a photo of the design?

Admiral Nomura•4/25/23, 10:37 PM

Disregard the second question. I found the limiter. Thank you for that option. Will help a lot

AAdmiral Nomura @walmis Hi Walmis, is it by any chance possible to purchase the two toothed whee...

kingjamez•4/25/23, 11:21 PM

The belts are HD5 and available everywhere. Similarly you can find HD5 pulleys from eBay and AliExpress for very little cost. The size is not critical as it’s configurable.

Kkingjamez The belts are HD5 and available everywhere. Similarly you can find HD5 pulleys f...

Admiral Nomura•4/25/23, 11:38 PM

Thanks, will have a look

AAdmiral Nomura Thanks, will have a look

mechsicko•4/26/23, 12:19 AM

The belts are HTD 5m, 9mm width

Mmechsicko The belts are HTD 5m, 9mm width

kingjamez•4/26/23, 12:33 AM

Yes, I forgot the T, thanks for the correction.

VPforceBot•4/26/23, 9:16 AM

:package:

RHINO #0085 Has Shipped!

Will3D•4/26/23, 10:26 PM

After some advice. I currently have a kit using the largest motors. Using a 5.7:1 ratio I need about 7kg of pull for full deflection at the handle ~400mm from pivot point.

Will3D•4/26/23, 10:27 PM

I'd actually like a little more, and was considering adding a 3:1 gearbox. I'd need to change the small pulley to around 20T or even larger. Which would give me a ~12:1 ratio.

Will3D•4/26/23, 10:29 PM

I use my stick for both fixed wing and helis though, and I would like the stick to fall under it's own weight for helis. eg very little resistance. Guess my question is, how much gearing is too much ?

Will3D•4/26/23, 10:33 PM

Should I use a larger gear reduction and smaller pulley?

Will3D•4/26/23, 10:34 PM

Or should I scrap the whole idea!?

Jon (Bounty_V)•4/27/23, 12:03 AM

when in doubt throw more motors at the problem

Jon (Bounty_V)•4/27/23, 12:03 AM

too much gearing? not enough motors

JJon (Bounty_V)when in doubt throw more motors at the problem

Will3D•4/27/23, 1:33 AM

Well I can’t add bigger motors. So have to rely on gearing. I’d like more power but don’t want to sacrifice the cyclic feel for helis.

kingjamez•4/27/23, 1:59 AM

Personally I'd try single stage at 10:1 first, but parallel motors on a single axis is an intriguing idea.

WWill3D Well I can’t add bigger motors. So have to rely on gearing. I’d like more power ...

Jon (Bounty_V)•4/27/23, 3:37 AM

My answer was more intended to not be taken seriously. Reminded me of this youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/@BrickExperimentChannel which handles gears and motors extensively and how they solve a lot of problems in their experiments

YouTube

Brick Experiment Channel

I do nerdy experiments with Lego bricks :)

FAQ
Q:Where do you buy your Lego from?
A:www.bricklink.com
Q:Can you give me the building instructions for X?
A:No, sorry. The video description may contain a list of parts.
Q:I see Finnish products in your videos. Are you from Finland?
A:Yes. Kyllä, olen suomalainen.
Q:How big is your Lego collectio...

VPforceBot•4/27/23, 10:57 AM

:package:

RHINO #0088 Has Shipped!

Asdforce•4/27/23, 1:13 PM

The bot seems to be stuck somehow. It's been showing 82 shipped for a few days now.

walmis•4/27/23, 1:44 PM

Thanks, should be fixed now

Asdforce•4/27/23, 2:59 PM

Works now. Thanks and you're welcome :)

Jon (Bounty_V)•4/27/23, 10:58 PM

Getting awfully close to mine

Reed•4/28/23, 2:09 AM

Yup, just got my invoice. Paying tomorrow. can't wait.

Boosted•4/28/23, 5:36 AM

98 more to go for me, lol

Shaz•4/28/23, 1:30 PM

376 Rhinos to go!

376 Rhinos to go!

but I know it will be worth it when the time comes!

Wwalmis I'm starting to think curves with FFB are a bit too complicated. Let's say we tr...

peachmonkey•4/28/23, 3:19 PM

hi, @walmis, how are ya..
wondering if you had a chance to look at the Mossie yet.
Wanted to bring up a following point when dealing with the curves and your comment that small inputs will cause large outputs: Mosquito's full range of Y axis motion (elevator) is very high, to the point where such high elevator deflection actually serves no purpose during the flight/operation of the aircraft. Meaning there's no practical reason for reaching 1:-1, or even 0.5:-0.5. If you introduce a saturation and the ability to make the curves even flatter then it can possibly be a solution for this bird. The main problem here, obviously, is that it'll be a Mossie specific solution only..

peachmonkey•4/28/23, 3:19 PM

superbird1011•4/28/23, 11:01 PM

Does MSFS support FFB? One of my biggest reasons for wanting it is for Reno

SShaz `376 Rhinos to go!` 😭 but I know it will be worth it when the time comes!

superbird1011•4/28/23, 11:02 PM

Jeez thats double mine! I get that @walmis is building them as fast as he can. I’m just hoping theres a way to ramp up production soon!

Ssuperbird1011 Does MSFS support FFB? One of my biggest reasons for wanting it is for Reno

amadeus•4/28/23, 11:10 PM

not out of the box, right now you have to use a third party app, costs a few bucks, and does take a bit of work and configuration to feel good, but not gonna be as good as like, F-14 in DCS or even most of the IL2 planes

superbird1011•4/28/23, 11:11 PM

Still beats my current setup of t16000m fcs i bet lol

amadeus•4/28/23, 11:38 PM

oh no doubt

amadeus•4/28/23, 11:38 PM

and even if you can't get the settings right, you can still just make the rhino feel really nicely dampened in a way that no spring based joystick out there (even with dampeners) will feel like

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