VPforce Controls•3y ago

It works with a just twisted pair wire. But not with the db9😡 even though I get conductivity end to

It works with a just twisted pair wire. But not with the db9

even though I get conductivity end to end!! Wtf

Wwalmis Fix pushed http://vpforcecontrols.com/usb/rhino/

amadeus•4/26/23, 9:54 PM

oh wait -- so this wasn't actually an IL2 bug then? it was a rhino bug?

Aamadeus oh wait -- so this wasn't actually an IL2 bug then? it was a rhino bug?

walmis•4/27/23, 5:25 AM

Yep, was introduced in 04.24 update and fixed yesterday.

Wwalmis Yep, was introduced in 04.24 update and fixed yesterday.

LeLv30_Superbus•4/27/23, 2:44 PM

Where can I get this update? I only see v1.0.14 in downloads page?

walmis•4/27/23, 2:45 PM

here

LeLv30_Superbus•4/27/23, 2:49 PM

But...

I have only one executable: VPforce_FFB_Configurator.exe where can I get that web tool thingy?

walmis•4/27/23, 2:49 PM

http://vpforcecontrols.com/usb/rhino/

LeLv30_Superbus•4/27/23, 2:49 PM

walmis•4/27/23, 2:49 PM

Open it with webusb compatible browser: Edge, Chrome, Brave

LLeLv30_Superbus But... 😕 I have only one executable: VPforce_FFB_Configurator.exe where can I ...

PiNKSH!T•4/27/23, 2:49 PM

also the pop up that comes up in windows when you plug in the Rhino will take you there

LeLv30_Superbus•4/27/23, 2:50 PM

So Firefox which I use does not work, okay thanks

walmis•4/27/23, 2:50 PM

Yeah, Mozilla doesn't support webusb

LeLv30_Superbus•4/27/23, 2:53 PM

Error: NotFoundError: Failed to execute 'requestDevice' on 'USB': No device selected.

LeLv30_Superbus•4/27/23, 2:53 PM

Error: TypeError: Cannot read properties of null (reading 'configurations')

walmis•4/27/23, 2:54 PM

try again, maybe you're using a hub?

LeLv30_Superbus•4/27/23, 2:55 PM

Device Firmware: v1.0.14-6

LeLv30_Superbus•4/27/23, 2:56 PM

is it the right one now?

walmis•4/27/23, 2:56 PM

yep, latest

LeLv30_Superbus•4/27/23, 2:56 PM

cheers

Ssmitty It works with a just twisted pair wire. But not with the db9😡 even though I get...

walmis•4/27/23, 7:18 PM

Found the problem today. With a long cable, there's some cross-talk and the jittery rising clock signal causes it to register as two clock inputs, I'll try adding a resistor on the data output line on the S/R side tomorrow to slow down the slew rate and see if that fixes it.
Here in pic - yellow is rising clock edge and blue is toggling data line.

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Wwalmis Found the problem today. With a long cable, there's some cross-talk and the jitt...

TheAmazinGreat•4/27/23, 7:38 PM

How long is the cable?

walmis•4/27/23, 7:38 PM

um, around 1.5-2 meters

Wwalmis um, around 1.5-2 meters

TheAmazinGreat•4/27/23, 8:52 PM

Good info to know!

walmis•4/28/23, 6:04 AM

Added a 330ohm resistor on the data line from the shift register, solves the problem with a long wire

walmis•4/28/23, 6:04 AM

Will add it on the next revision of the board

smittyOP•4/28/23, 12:13 PM

i have a resistor variety pack i'll give that a try here too.

smittyOP•4/28/23, 12:15 PM

would it be better on the SR side or usb board side

walmis•4/28/23, 12:19 PM

on SR side

smittyOP•4/28/23, 3:20 PM

IT WORKS!

smittyOP•4/28/23, 4:25 PM

Hey i have a buddy that's pretty good with repairing phones and other tiny electronics and i happen to be seeing him tomorrow. Is there a spot on the board that you would think to look at first for that one i killed?

Ssmitty Hey i have a buddy that's pretty good with repairing phones and other tiny elect...

walmis•4/29/23, 8:41 AM

Probably the voltage regulator would be my first suspect, but the mcu might be damaged though.

PiNKSH!T•4/29/23, 3:25 PM

Hey Walmis I'm getting some funny effects in IL2 with the A-20, I think it might be related to inertia? The stick in game is sort of jumping along the axis, especially when I trim to full nose down, when I move the stick it jumps back to middle of Y axis. When I try to log the data it stops when I alt tab back? is there anyway to log the data & save the log file?

PPiNKSH!T Hey Walmis I'm getting some funny effects in IL2 with the A-20, I think it might...

walmis•4/29/23, 3:49 PM

Not sure what to make of this, too little information. Need something more to go on.
The data log button should stay activated irrespective from alt-tab status. Data is logged to samples.csv file inside the configurator folder.

Is it possible you have bound two different controllers for the main axis and they conflict?

PiNKSH!T•4/29/23, 3:52 PM

samples.csv8.69MB

Wwalmis Not sure what to make of this, too little information. Need something more to go...

PiNKSH!T•4/29/23, 3:57 PM

getting late for me atm, I'll jump on IL2 tomorrow & try to capture it better for you.

walmis•4/29/23, 3:59 PM

Yeah, I see some oscillations

walmis•4/29/23, 3:59 PM

can you show me your settings?

PiNKSH!T•4/29/23, 4:00 PM