KFFB is the future for all serious flight sim setups.
JFFB and haptics in everything
Jwe're technically already there with racing sim for mainstream. Except for FFB handbrake
JIf no one else puts out a good throttle and I ever feel like upgrading from my Virpil CM2, I could see potentially getting WW FFB throttle
PI've come to realize with the Rhino that yeah FFB effects are cool & great for immersion, but the real strength of FFB (anything) is the ability to customize the feeling of the device, like the Rhino, per config/aircraft we can change the length of throw of the stick, the feel of weight etc. all sorts of nuances of the aircraft stick feel, as with ffb racing sim, pedals & even gear shifters can be ffb, you can have basically whatever type of shifter you like all in one unit. FFB throttle would be awesome for so many reasons, yeah AP, ATC etc. obviously but also things like detents for idle, AB etc. I truly believe all the major simulator peripheral companies out there need to get back to FFB.
Jisnt the mythical TECS supposed to have electronically defined detents? the way it read to my very big lack of understanding it sounded like u set a detent in software, and the physical throttle detents are adjusted to reflect what was set
Jwhat would be really cool is for a throttle to, because of ffb, be able to emulate being rail as well as the one we primarily see (I forget the technical term)
We don't have too many rail throttles these days, main one that comes to mind is the T.16000m throttle. I know TECS was supposed to come in two variants one rail and one what we're used to seeing.
If the effect of both could be emulated with FFB and you just choose which you want via software + change its feel that would be a very nice feature
We don't have too many rail throttles these days, main one that comes to mind is the T.16000m throttle. I know TECS was supposed to come in two variants one rail and one what we're used to seeing.
If the effect of both could be emulated with FFB and you just choose which you want via software + change its feel that would be a very nice feature
PTECS was a joke from VKB that got out of hand, there is no TECS 
Ja joke that got so far out of hand it changed the timeline into one that doesnt have the TECS
Jthe sad thing is even if it does ever eventually come out it'll never live up to expectations
Jif after so many years it isnt magically the best throttle ever that is immaculate and with all the features one would ever want people will be upset. vkb cant just show us something, give us bullet points of features, and underdeliver after 7+ years 
I'd love to see Virpil put their newer joystick base tech into a new throttle though.
I'd love to see Virpil put their newer joystick base tech into a new throttle though.
AAre you sure that’s what it meant? They show the Taurus moving by itself, so I kinda took the new one moving under the cover to just be a sort of metaphorical “waking up”
PSo F5 has a displaced neutral point - can we do that for the F18 as well?
Pwhat's the way here, I get that I can set custom stops, but what about moving the neutral point (not quite the same as trimming)
PIf that is the case that's lame af. ppl need to get back to ffb, it's so much better, watching those ffb sim racing pedals too just sorta confirms it, also ffb gar shifters too.
Jhttps://youtu.be/lDGeQ_eyqEw
Here's one of the FFB shifters. Similar story to the Rhino in terms of how it is made and the scale of production and pricing
And here's a diy project: https://lebois-racing.com/new-srt-gearbox-v9/
https://lebois-racing.com/documentation-srt-v9-1-gearbox/
There's a basic kit you can get off of aliexpress for it (the important bits like the PCB)
Here's one of the FFB shifters. Similar story to the Rhino in terms of how it is made and the scale of production and pricing
And here's a diy project: https://lebois-racing.com/new-srt-gearbox-v9/
https://lebois-racing.com/documentation-srt-v9-1-gearbox/
There's a basic kit you can get off of aliexpress for it (the important bits like the PCB)
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PAnother question: I don't know if I broke anything when installing Virpil stuff, but I think TelemFFB gave me FFB effects in Bf109 but I don't get any at the moment? Fw190 for example works without a hitch, but 109 has a limp stick throughout. I really need to try getting TelemFFB working with just the python version - for the moment I'm not sure how to install whatever dependencies it needs
Jmy take on the WW throttle video is, it isn't hard to hope winwing does something more than basically just the same thing with slightly updated internals or just a F15E version.
Looking at the impressive and unique things they have done lately it has almost become commonplace to expect something amazing.
Looking at the impressive and unique things they have done lately it has almost become commonplace to expect something amazing.
JViper throttle, joystick with haptics, force sensing, collective, a second generation of their entry level hotas, a front panel for the f18, these are all amazing things no other big company is doing for consumer level. Sure there's some one off stuff that is for enthusiasts with bigger banks, and for people who diy their own cockpits, but no one anywhere is doing what winwing is doing.
I can only imagine how long they've been working on and developing a successor to their throttle.
I can only imagine how long they've been working on and developing a successor to their throttle.
KMan I'm thinking I should sell my Thrustmaster Warthog Throttle before it's rendered obsolete. I've got the new revision and it's nice, but FFB just makes everything better.
NI would at least wait a bit and see if the WW throttle even is force feedback or if it’s just some fancy cinematography
SAs long as they improve on the new taurus, it'll be a day 1 buy for me, since I love the current one so much. I bought the taurus in early 2020 and to me it's honestly the best throttle on the market (or was in this case)
PYeah 100% I wouldn't go selling anything or planing sim pits around the fact that the new WW throttle will be FFB. I'm likely just projecting my own wishes onto it, but, why make those throttles move like that at the end? if it was only to show the new set "coming alive" it's a bit misleading, it could be to gauge interest from the sim community, also they are known for doing a lot of f18 gear & one of the f18's features is auto throttle. Let's hope it is ffb to some degree, hopefully they make it.
DIm trying to seek answers to some questions, but don’t hold your breathe
JBased on the tease they should reveal more info soon either way. Definitely not a "see you next year tee hee" thing
WI think it has to be FFB. Otherwise why would they have that whirring sound. It implies something electronic. I’ll eat my hat if it turns out to not be ffb
PYeah I mean, why not? it'd be such an awesome feature & as they make a point of in the video, it was a very well loved unit so why not improve it & release a v2.0 & having the ATC feature work would be a really cool thing to add. On a half related note, I hope they release an A-10 throttle grip to go with the Orion 2 & the new throttle too, unless I'm mistaken the a-10 throttle grip is the same as the f15e too isn't it? I mean they really would be living up to their logo then, ultimate warthog killer then there's be no reason left to buy a TM warthog throttle anymore.
there's be no reason left to buy a TM warthog throttle anymore.WMakes sense. They have also mentioned working on a ffb joystick for some time.
JFor future proofing I hope they do a few things with the new throttle.
Aside from aforementioned things it should have support for multiple throttle grips. Imagine having the F-16 throttle grip + gate on it? Or a COLLECTIVE grip. This needs to be a thing. Give existing owners even more of a reason to upgrade.
Aside from aforementioned things it should have support for multiple throttle grips. Imagine having the F-16 throttle grip + gate on it? Or a COLLECTIVE grip. This needs to be a thing. Give existing owners even more of a reason to upgrade.
JAlso if they do an F-15E/Warthog throttle grip, I hope they work on more panel stuff that isn't just F-18. F-16, F-15E, A-10 panel stuff would be amazing.
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POkay, when I cold start it it seems to work, air start doesn't, for some reason.
RMy rhino is delivered but I’m in Maui. I’ll be home in 2 days to open her up
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Jlooks like olowalu landing! enjoy the surf!
Jhttps://mfg-sim.com/en/MFG%20-Blog/news/rudder-pedals-stock-outage For info, here is when MFG Crosswind V3 pedals will be back in stock (June 10)
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RBefore I board my plane what can I download to start looking at how to install the rhino and bind keys and adjust settings. I fly dcs helicopters and msfs helicopters only.
PHey m8, not too sure what you can do to 'get ready' for the Rhino. What you need is the VPforce Config software, also for DCS (soon msfs too) the Telemetry app will give you ffb effects for all the aircraft, you can tweak this further later, if I understand it right it only adds effects it won't overwrite any native ffb effects from the module. MSFS currently needs paid 3rd party software most ppl use XPForce though there are other options, the VPforce telem app is being worked on for msfs compatibility too, should be released soon. The VPforce Loopback app is also handy, if you have a grip that doesn't plug directly into the Rhino base i.e. VKB grip with passthrough adapter, or a custom grip that has it's own usb, you can use the Loopback app to make the sim see the grip & Rhino as one unit, can also use HID Hide too if you want to hide the grip from being seen by the game too.
Pthe DCS heli's force trim should 'just work' otb with the Rhino, just make sure in DCS settings you have the FFB enabled (obviously) but also special settings for each heli & make sure the force trim is set to default, not no spring & FFB, that should read 'no spring or FFB'. Trim in general should work too for warbirds etc. If you use a mod aircraft like the blackhawk you will need to add it to the Telem app config, but also in the VPforce config software you need to bind buttons for force trim in the 'Effects' tab
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JThink im gonna have slipping issues running a 72 and 12 tooth pulley this close together? Im getting about 30% engagement on the 12 tooth. I could include some bearings as tensioners
LI found a bug, when you change the seat from pilot to gunner in Apache, the FFB will not work anymore, you've got no hardware trim.
Lanyone had the problem before?
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WThat sounds like it could be a DCS bug
JI've heard of/experienced similar desync issues with other modules that have switchable seats
JYou definitely do have an increased risk of shearing off the teeth with only 3.6 teeth in mesh. The number of teeth a belt needs in order to transfer the highest working force a belt should be used with to the pulley is about 6.
With some rough calculation your safety factor from shearing off the teeth, assuming you use a 9mm belt, is only 1.15.
I would certainly advise you to use an idler to increase the number of meshed teeth.
With some rough calculation your safety factor from shearing off the teeth, assuming you use a 9mm belt, is only 1.15.
I would certainly advise you to use an idler to increase the number of meshed teeth.