I’ll give an absolute S++ rating for the MCGU, best grip I’ve owned by so much that it isn’t even fu
I’ll give an absolute S++ rating for the MCGU, best grip I’ve owned by so much that it isn’t even funny
NOnly trouble I’ve had is that on an extension, it’s heavy enough to actually cause some problems with centering on the VKB base
NI doubt that would be of any concern at all on the Rhino
JAt least 1 Rhino Owner is using the MCGU+200mm
NYeah I mean even the springs on the VKB base handle it fine, you just have to be at the top end of what they recommend
JI still need to get an extension for my MCGP, I'd save some $50-60+ on shipping by getting MCGU in same order vs getting them separately
Dah seems I got the wrong depress switch, don't have one in hand to check atm
PVKB BlackBox uses the same cable as printers do going to the PC. I think it's called USB-B. All the cables needed should come included in the VKB BB, as Jon stated above the VPforce VKB adapter comes with the cables to go to the BB, then the USB-B from BB to PC.
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JThat's not correct. Phoenix Sparrow depress works. The depress missing is for SW station changing. It is kind of easy DIY fixable. Done it, but have yet to use it
SI'm most likely going to purchase the VKB F-14 grip thanks to your inputs!
SAppreciate the feedback!
JStormbirdsShamrockOneFive
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AInnnteresting!
JI've already requested FFB support. VR is confirmed.
Ajust need to crowd fund a rhino for jason and we'll be set
WCan vouch for this. It's what I use and love it. But it is quite tall.
Jwait til walmis potentially works his magic with the MFG Crosswinds so we can have proper rudder feedback too 
MIn the market for a better home cockpit setup myself and was wondering the same. A review I saw mentioned the center mount didn't go low enough to use an extension with their non-ffb stick.
DYeah, I got the wrong switch in my mind, what diy did you end up doing?
DMy only issue with this is that it waters down the player base
Jwdym?
JDo you mean splits the playerbase of existing games?
DYeah
JAs a predominantly offline/single player flight simmer so far, I'm really looking forward to it, especially if they can offer a dynamic campaign of some sort.
In regards to player bases, I think its up to existing games/communities to retain player count. If DCS WW2 for example wants to keep people interested, ED should finally release the tools necessary to do a better job of running servers.
Any new game will always have a lot of people at launch very interested in checking it out. It takes a long time to build up communities for retaining player count. DCS WW2/IL2 Great Battles MP communities weren't built overnight, and I doubt they'll disappear overnight either.
Really just depends on how good of a job the devs do with Combat Pilot and how multiplayer works. So far it sounds like they're definitely open to discussion with the community, so in a perfect world ideal scenario is community gets access to all tools they'd ever need to properly run servers.
In regards to player bases, I think its up to existing games/communities to retain player count. If DCS WW2 for example wants to keep people interested, ED should finally release the tools necessary to do a better job of running servers.
Any new game will always have a lot of people at launch very interested in checking it out. It takes a long time to build up communities for retaining player count. DCS WW2/IL2 Great Battles MP communities weren't built overnight, and I doubt they'll disappear overnight either.
Really just depends on how good of a job the devs do with Combat Pilot and how multiplayer works. So far it sounds like they're definitely open to discussion with the community, so in a perfect world ideal scenario is community gets access to all tools they'd ever need to properly run servers.
Janother potential big factor, is groups that used to run servers in either game, and them potentially expressing interest in running servers in Combat Pilot.
So even without a 'loss' to existing communities or player bases, we could potentially see a solid community server established in Combat Pilot, if it gives players who are burned out on what is currently available something fresh and exciting to dip their toes into.
So even without a 'loss' to existing communities or player bases, we could potentially see a solid community server established in Combat Pilot, if it gives players who are burned out on what is currently available something fresh and exciting to dip their toes into.
JRegardless, they are absolutely spot on about the current state of flight sim, and the absence of PTO, and providing something else for players to enjoy is a very welcome notion.
JI do think there is so much we as the flight sim community could do for the state of Combat Pilot now by providing suggestions and our opinions and what we actually want out of the game, particularly for multiplayer.
It sounds like it is such early days in development, that it is the PERFECT time to talk about what to add that would require a lot of stuff to put it into the game (as in, easier to just hard code into it now, vs try to do decades later like ED does with DCS)
It sounds like it is such early days in development, that it is the PERFECT time to talk about what to add that would require a lot of stuff to put it into the game (as in, easier to just hard code into it now, vs try to do decades later like ED does with DCS)
DCommunity suggestions and feedback should only go so far, otherwise you get a game like Star Citizen
JOf course. It is ultimately their game and their vision. But if there are fundamental things from a technical aspect that would make maintaining a community much easier, definitely worth letting them know 
Ai think in the long run competition is good though
SI feel like Chris Roberts is more at fault than the community on that one.
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JJHello everyone! We are SPQR, and are hosting our new DCS server running the Engima's Cold War code but for modern jets and helicopters.
We are moving out of our beta testing period and launching the production version of the mission tonight and we would like to welcome everyone to come fly and try out the server!
We are moving out of our beta testing period and launching the production version of the mission tonight and we would like to welcome everyone to come fly and try out the server!
JThat's pretty cool
JI'll definitely check it out in the future once I've got my setup up and running (~August-September)
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Jthat works too kekw
JDM the bot that command lol
M389 to go......
MProbably got time to knock the wife up and her give birth before mines ready? Asking for a friend,lol
MI'll name my next baby Walmis if my rhino comes before the baby.
Gstill in doubt between MCGU and Winwing Orion 2, which one do you guys think it's better?
JI can't speak for Winwing at all, but I can say the MCGU has been tried and tested and proven to be solid, as it has been around for some years now. Orion 2 came out fairly recently iirc.
PI think technically the WW F-16EX has more HATs or button inputs if you have the extension pack thing on it, like Jon I don't own the WW I have the MCGU on a 200mm curved extension, tbh that's probably the heaviest I'd go with a 200mm extension on the Rhino as the weight of the mcgu does give a fair bit of leverage, I use the vkb Kg12v2 grip for warbirds & ga flying & it feels better for those, the mcgu I use for heli's & anything more modern than warbirds, don't get me wrong it feels awesome on the Rhino I usually only have the spring force low when flying modern aircraft & it's still enough, I just personally wouldn't want heavier than the mcgu.
NCan’t speak on the WinWing at all either, I haven’t tried it. If the Orion is of equal super high quality, it would only come down to the ergonomics
GThat's great, you pretty much nailed the way I want to use . I'm also planning to use Rhino with a 200mm extension, I was inclined first to go for Virpil as I could later on 3d print some grips, such as the P-51 and KG12/13C, but personally I prefer a metal grip