yes, we should probably use it in our builds... the downside is `ostree container commit` doesn't l

yes, we should probably use it in our builds...

the downside is

ostree container commit

ostree container commit

ostree container commit

ostree container commit doesn't like stuff in

/var

/var

/var

/var so you have to clean it before doing the container commit... but we do that anyway...

so if you just want builds and RPM installs to work, the above is all you need...

but you CAN go a step further, copy the contents of /var/lib/alternatives out, ostree container commit, and then copy them back to /var/lib/alternatives if you want to try to preserve that stuff I do the latter in my image... but it's not crucial just nice to have the extra info IMHO

bshermanOP•6/1/23, 9:58 PM

it IS a hack, but it's required to install somethings, like the netcat RPM, it simply breaks without it

j0rge•6/1/23, 9:59 PM

I think copying back and forth is a bit janky, but just creating the directory, I feel like ugly but working is better, especially since like, stuff like rust doesn't work otherwise.

j0rge•6/1/23, 9:59 PM

and since it's an image when we clean it up later no fuss, no muss.

bshermanOP•6/1/23, 10:00 PM

This is my upstream issue: https://github.com/fedora-silverblue/issue-tracker/issues/430

Jj0rge there's no fixing this in a containerfile is there?

akdev•6/1/23, 10:00 PM

Create the link inside the containerfile and it should work

akdev•6/1/23, 10:00 PM

But you may need to remove the link

j0rge•6/1/23, 10:00 PM

I have to drop by car off for service tonight but I'm down to work on this later if you want

Jj0rge I think copying back and forth is a bit janky, but just creating the directory, ...

bshermanOP•6/1/23, 10:00 PM

i'm fine with that. the main goal is to cleanly do installs, not preserve the alternatives data

Aakdev Create the link inside the containerfile and it should work

j0rge•6/1/23, 10:00 PM

yeah I just did it in an sh file like how nvidia did it

j0rge•6/1/23, 10:01 PM

but if we can skip this whole thing entirely by making an empty dir .... (showerthinking)

akdev•6/1/23, 10:01 PM

mkdir /etc/alternatives may work

bshermanOP•6/1/23, 10:02 PM

i'm nursing a headache, just got up from a nap, and not validating my statements, but i'm pretty confident (hence my link from an issue posted a few months ago)

akdev•6/1/23, 10:02 PM

Actually there’s probably no harm in doing that

akdev•6/1/23, 10:02 PM

before ostree would fail if there was data in /etc

akdev•6/1/23, 10:02 PM

But now it will just clean up

Aakdev mkdir /etc/alternatives may work

bshermanOP•6/1/23, 10:02 PM

this also doesn't hurt anythign, but it is not an alternative to mkdir /var/lib/alternatives ...

akdev•6/1/23, 10:03 PM

No, it is a workaround

Bbsherman i'm nursing a headache, just got up from a nap, and not validating my statements...

j0rge•6/1/23, 10:03 PM

alright let's table it for later then, I have no problems making tonight video game night, heh

Bbsherman yes, we should probably use it in our builds... the downside is `ostree contain...

akdev•6/1/23, 10:04 PM

ostree container commit now cleans up /var iirc

akdev•6/1/23, 10:05 PM

unless I am making stuff up which is possible

bshermanOP•6/1/23, 10:05 PM

right, but i mean, I don't think mkdir /etc/alternatives is required, but mkdir /var/lib/alternatives is...

at least, i think

happy to be proven wrong with a better solution... i' just know it's been working

here's where i do it in my personal image (the "cleanup" bit, which assumes the mkdir -p /var/lib/alternativesmkdir -p /var/lib/alternatives above)

https://github.com/bsherman/ublue-custom/blob/main/Containerfile#L36-L39

Jj0rge alright let's table it for later then, I have no problems making tonight video g...

bshermanOP•6/1/23, 10:06 PM

I can't work on ublue tonight, need to do $DAYJOB, prep for some family stuff this weekend, and hopefully I'll get a few minutes to game myself

j0rge•6/1/23, 10:06 PM

we could start small with just the one and see what we can get away with. vegeta

akdev•6/1/23, 10:06 PM

In theory I think we could build a container like:

buildah build -v /somedir:/var/lib/alternatives

Jj0rge we could start small with just the one and see what we can get away with. <:vege...

bshermanOP•6/1/23, 10:06 PM

well, i already do it in ublue-os/akmodsublue-os/akmods

Bbsherman I can't work on ublue tonight, need to do $DAYJOB, prep for some family stuff th...

j0rge•6/1/23, 10:06 PM

yeah and I'm hopefully starting a new job here in about 2 weeks so more chillops

j0rge•6/1/23, 10:07 PM

wait is this in akmods?

Jj0rge yeah and I'm hopefully starting a new job here in about 2 weeks so more chillops

akdev•6/1/23, 10:07 PM

Yay! What’s your new position?

bshermanOP•6/1/23, 10:07 PM

https://github.com/ublue-os/akmods/blob/main/build-prep.sh#L17

j0rge•6/1/23, 10:07 PM

I can't say yet but I am very excited and it'll be awesome.

j0rge•6/1/23, 10:07 PM

huh, if that was in there why didn't I have it in bluefin?

j0rge•6/1/23, 10:08 PM

I think it's been in there long enough to trickle down?

Jj0rge I think it's been in there long enough to trickle down?

bshermanOP•6/1/23, 10:08 PM

well that doesn't trickle down, akmods builds, then main copies RPMS from akmods to install

j0rge•6/1/23, 10:08 PM

oh oh, right, you clean up after yourself

j0rge•6/1/23, 10:09 PM

j0rge•6/1/23, 10:09 PM

I call this one dedication.pngdedication.png

bshermanOP•6/1/23, 10:09 PM

each Containerfile build needs to have it's own mkdir -p /var/lib/alternativesmkdir -p /var/lib/alternatives if it's going to install any RPMs which need alternatives... so, IMHO, it's just a nice default hack until upstream Fedora and/or package maintainers find better solutions for alternatives

j0rge•6/1/23, 10:10 PM

ok so maybe the play is to add this as a snippet in the make your own page as a gotcha, that's a nice friday afternoon thing I can do

j0rge•6/1/23, 10:10 PM

alas, my sabbatical is nearly over lol

Jj0rge alas, my sabbatical is nearly over lol

bshermanOP•6/1/23, 10:11 PM

as in, have to go back to work?

j0rge•6/1/23, 10:11 PM

yeah

bshermanOP•6/1/23, 10:11 PM

also, i'm sorry if i came in and derailed some conversation, i just wanted to offere another solution

j0rge•6/1/23, 10:11 PM

it's all good, I hadn't realized you had dug into this so deeply

bshermanOP•6/1/23, 10:11 PM

i'm more wondering if we need to seriously consider bypassing rpmfusion's mirrormanager

bshermanOP•6/1/23, 10:12 PM

but again, i shouldn't think about this right now LOL

j0rge•6/1/23, 10:12 PM

https://www.weareteachers.com/wp-content/uploads/gandalf.jpg

j0rge•6/1/23, 10:13 PM

the rpmfusion sync is a new kernel, and a new mesa all at around the same time

bshermanOP•6/1/23, 10:13 PM

say what?

j0rge•6/1/23, 10:13 PM

6.3 kernel and 23.1 mesa

bshermanOP•6/1/23, 10:14 PM

but that breaks their mirrors?

yes, we should probably use it in our builds... the downside is `ostree container commit` doesn't l

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