VPforce Controls•3y ago

Does this help at all? (I just took delivery of my MPS1)

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QQuietQT Sorry about that. I had been searching and found both of these actually messages...

kingjamez•6/14/23, 7:07 PM

No need to apologize! I've asked way more questions than you and most were answerable via search. I just didn't realize the extent of the knowledge that is tucked away here.

B9•6/14/23, 7:51 PM

Hi Knight, Fantastic images. I appreciate the help., I am putting this Antivibration Rubber Pad 12 inch x 12 inch x .75 inch on the floor then putting the Rhino on top keeping it close to the ground. Here is My Rhino template bottom with .75 inch thick foam. In keeping my Rhino close to the ground The 250G75 Virpil Extension will work perfectly. it will be at the perfect height for flying.

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B9•6/14/23, 7:53 PM

This means I have to fabricate an a 90 Degree angle to metal plate to connect to the the Simulator and to connect to the Rhino

B9•6/14/23, 8:05 PM

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KKnight59 Does this help at all? (I just took delivery of my MPS1)

Reed•6/14/23, 8:05 PM

How does this mount work?

Reed•6/14/23, 8:06 PM

Here is how I did it.

Reed•6/14/23, 8:06 PM

Reed•6/14/23, 8:07 PM

Is it free floating? What’s underneath it.

B9•6/14/23, 8:11 PM

OH WOW!!!! GOOD WORK, THIS WILL WORK FOR ME AS WELL. wow!

RReed Click to see attachment

Knight59OP•6/14/23, 8:15 PM

Basically the same as you've done. Free floating, yes

B9•6/14/23, 8:16 PM

I Believe I can weld my Monstertechk Quick Release plate to the Rhino Plate and it will take less than one minute to connect the Rhino to the simulator and less than one minute to remove the Rhino from the simulator.

B9•6/14/23, 8:17 PM

Remove the two screws from the Monstertech Quick Release plate and weld the Monstertech Quick Release plate to the Rhino Plate. The two screws will no longer be needed.

B9•6/14/23, 8:19 PM

There should be enough depth between the Rhino and the simulator to fit the Monstertechk Quick Release Knobs

B9•6/14/23, 8:22 PM

WOW!! you have impressed me with mounting your Rhino to your simulator.

Deleted User•6/14/23, 8:31 PM

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B9•6/14/23, 8:32 PM

https://qr4rigs.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=59

Joystick Kinked Extension for Thrustmaster and Virpil (VPC) [TMVPCS...

QR4Rigs, Quick release Mounts for Sim Rigs Joystick Kinked Extension for Thrustmaster and Virpil (VPC) [TMVPCStickExt] - The Joystick extension fits the Thrustmaster Warthog/Cougar and Virpil (VPC) Joystick ranges and is ideal when using the QRDee Center Mount System. The main tube is 30mm in diameter and comes in a choice of two different style...

Reed•6/14/23, 8:34 PM

Very cool

B9•6/14/23, 8:34 PM

You guy's are all Top Gun.

BB9 Hi Knight, Fantastic images. I appreciate the help., I am putting this Antivibra...

Knight59OP•6/14/23, 10:05 PM

You're welcome! Yea that looks like it'll work well!

walmis•6/15/23, 6:26 AM

@b99487 Here's the Drawing for the MT mount

B9•6/15/23, 9:37 AM

Thank you Walmis for sending the Drawing of the Rhino MT Mount

PiNKSH!T•6/15/23, 11:39 AM

hey guys, just wondering how I get the spring & dampening effects to feel more linier? Basically I want to stiffen up the center of the axis more

Reed•6/15/23, 12:52 PM

I’ll post my settings again as of adjusted them but I feel like I’ve got a good start. Something that really helped was turning down the spring affect and increasing the dampening effect and adding just a little bit of inertia and that 7% of friction there’s also in the top right corner a setting for using 100% deafening within the spring affect so it’s not so bouncy, I’ve got a good balance I feel at least for helicopters compared to the in real life counterpart

B9•6/15/23, 10:05 PM

Hi Walming, Can I purchase the Rhino MT Plate and have it shipped to me now? This way I can weld my MT Quick Release plate to it and have it ready for when my Rhino Arrives. I will pay for expedited shipping. Thank you

BB9 Hi Walming, Can I purchase the Rhino MT Plate and have it shipped to me now? Th...

walmis•6/16/23, 5:56 AM

Sure, you can place an order http://order.vpforce.eu

Google Docs

VPforce Order Request

Order request for VPforce products.
Please note: to reserve a VPforce RHINO FFB base, please use reservation form here.

Once the order is ready to be fulfilled an invoice will be sent to the provided email address.

B9•6/16/23, 9:13 AM

Hi Walmis, After the order is placed how long will it take to ship the VPforce RHINO FFB base?

BB9 Hi Walmis, After the order is placed how long will it take to ship the VPforce R...

Bob Bushman•6/16/23, 9:14 AM

Im currently 370 or something in line and I'm hoping for end of January 2025

B9•6/16/23, 9:15 AM

What is the expected date my Rhino purchase being shipped to me?

AndyHill•6/16/23, 11:09 AM

if you are on the list you can ask the bot

kingjamez•6/17/23, 2:32 AM

If I put a motor on a belt driven axis for a yoke that requires ~20 turns of the motor for full travel, could the VPForce software handle that during calibration? I know you'd need to always start on the same revolution or you'd need to do a limit switch find. Essentially, I would like to do a 3D Printer type belt driven linear rail.

smitty•6/17/23, 2:43 AM

whats the stroke length? why not keep it simple and make it so stroke = 1 rotation? it would be very hard to find that perfect 1/20th spot for recentering. for 200mm travel youd only need a ~65mm pulley diameter.

smitty•6/17/23, 2:45 AM

also with the force cranked up it will be extremely hard to move the yoke with that 20:1 reduction.

kingjamez•6/17/23, 2:45 AM

I'd be very easy to find home with an LED connected to an optical or mechanical switch.

kingjamez•6/17/23, 2:46 AM

It's not "really" a 20:1 reduction, it's a 16t pinion on an open ended belt.

kingjamez•6/17/23, 2:46 AM

200mm total movement linearly.

kingjamez•6/17/23, 2:47 AM

Just like an ender 3 X-axis

smitty•6/17/23, 2:48 AM

right but what's the radius of a 16t pulley? pretty small, so 1.6Nm / radius in meters is the force youre going to be pushing. and its going to be significant

kingjamez•6/17/23, 2:51 AM

don't get carried away with 20:1.... I can make that gear any size I want but 1:1 isn't reasonable. I'll worry with the mechanics, I'm asking about the software's capability of doing multiple turns.

smitty•6/17/23, 2:53 AM

as far as i know, i have gone beyond the 1 rotation and its worked fine. my endpoint numbers were in the 6000 range. i haven done 20x though. do you have the motors already? put in some numbers manually in the limits like +/-40000 and see if it works

Number481•6/17/23, 2:53 AM

I was told by walmis that it’s “unlimited” with the restriction you already mentioned.

Number481•6/17/23, 2:54 AM

Watch his diy get started video he makes an axis with 3 or 4 revolutions I think.

NNumber481 Watch his diy get started video he makes an axis with 3 or 4 revolutions I think...

kingjamez•6/17/23, 2:57 AM

Ah! I didn't remember that being in the video. I just ordered a 2nd set of motors and am too lazy to squeeze under the chair, take off the belt, and reinstall to try it on my working stick. Thanks! I'd guess if it can do 2, it could do as many as needed so long as I home it before turning it on.

kingjamez•6/17/23, 2:59 AM

I'm adding FFB yoke to my long list of VPForce projects... sometime after pedals but before collective.

Kkingjamez I'm adding FFB yoke to my long list of VPForce projects... sometime after pedals...

Number481•6/17/23, 3:00 AM

I’ve eyed my honeycomb alpha more than once wondering if I could hack some motors in there.

Number481•6/17/23, 3:00 AM

A bit $$ to just start pulling apart and tinkering though!

NNumber481 I’ve eyed my honeycomb alpha more than once wondering if I could hack some motor...

kingjamez•6/17/23, 3:00 AM

I own one... but the case looks too small to even fit the smal motors.

kingjamez•6/17/23, 3:01 AM

moving to general with an idea.....

NNumber481 Watch his diy get started video he makes an axis with 3 or 4 revolutions I think...

kingjamez•6/17/23, 3:28 AM

Bingo at 3:10 in the intro video he does exactly this... excellent memory.

Kkingjamez Bingo at 3:10 in the intro video he does exactly this... excellent memory.

Number481•6/17/23, 3:29 AM

Well, I only remember it because I asked him a bunch of questions, which he answered. And then later watched the video and realized it would have answered the questions I had if I had watched it first

Will3D•6/17/23, 7:55 AM

@walmis is there any way to make the stick looser? Is the neutral dampening compensation at the max at 25% or is there a way to get

Does this help at all? (I just took delivery of my MPS1)

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