I vaguely recall having some sort of argument about it

Aqua•6/29/23, 9:47 PM

i've been meaning to write some new tutorials, however when i am motivated atm i am busy working on like 4 different projects at once

PPerksey I vaguely recall having some sort of argument about it

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 9:48 PM

it was multiple long discussions on coffee & code + working group meetings

PerkseyOP•6/29/23, 9:48 PM

man someone should get ChatGPT to write meeting notes for those

AAqua i've been meaning to write some new tutorials, however when i am motivated atm i...

Lasek•6/29/23, 9:48 PM

oh god

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 9:49 PM

ending concensus basically was "lets let the driver do what it wants, it probably has a reason for its default value + thats how other windowing APIs work, lets match their behaviour"

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 9:49 PM

and also "its not a big enough problem to warrant a breaking change"

PerkseyOP•6/29/23, 9:49 PM

fair that does sound like a reasonable conclusion

PerkseyOP•6/29/23, 9:50 PM

that one I’m now less worried about because it has reached the “widespread confusion and/or misuse” line for me

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 9:50 PM

yeah, we should 100% reconsider for 3.0

PerkseyOP•6/29/23, 9:50 PM

which we previously used to remove implicit in

PerkseyOP•6/29/23, 9:50 PM

let’s do a coffee and code and discuss it

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 9:50 PM

definitely

LLyris the Kitori and also "its not a big enough problem to warrant a breaking change"

Lasek•6/29/23, 9:51 PM

hym… out of curiosity as someone who isn't very expirienced. Is setting a default value a breaking change ?

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 9:51 PM

yes

Aqua•6/29/23, 9:51 PM

id like to join in as well if thats alright
havent spoken to literally anyone in ages outside of text

PerkseyOP•6/29/23, 9:51 PM

yeah it’s behaviourally breaking

AAqua id like to join in as well if thats alright havent spoken to literally anyone in...

PerkseyOP•6/29/23, 9:51 PM

sure thing, probably won’t be tomorrow but maybe on the weekend

PerkseyOP•6/29/23, 9:51 PM

I’m also 1 working week away from being unemployed so I’ll have a lot more time on my hands

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 9:52 PM

im free until maybe the 12th?

PPerksey I’m also 1 working week away from being unemployed so I’ll have a lot more time ...

Aqua•6/29/23, 9:52 PM

wait what

PerkseyOP•6/29/23, 9:52 PM

I resigned to do a gap year over in the states

LLyris the Kitori im free until maybe the 12th?

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 9:52 PM

my parents are leaving for vacation on the 1st, returning on the 8th (so i'll be 100% free that whole week), then some day on the week of the 12th im flying up to washington

PerkseyOP•6/29/23, 9:52 PM

last day is Thursday

Aqua•6/29/23, 9:53 PM

ohhh i see

PPerksey I resigned to do a gap year over in the states

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 9:59 PM

what state? perhaps we could have the US silk meetup

Lasek•6/29/23, 10:02 PM

guys, I have a question

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 10:02 PM

probably want to put it in #help-and-questions

Lasek•6/29/23, 10:03 PM

would this be approved for merging into tutorial in OnRender()OnRender()

//_window.Position = new Vector2D<int>(Random.Shared.Next(0,1000), Random.Shared.Next(0,1000)); //HEHE FUNNY, WINDOW GOES BRRRRRRRRRRR

//_window.Position = new Vector2D<int>(Random.Shared.Next(0,1000), Random.Shared.Next(0,1000)); //HEHE FUNNY, WINDOW GOES BRRRRRRRRRRR

LLyris the Kitori probably want to put it in #help-and-questions

Lasek•6/29/23, 10:03 PM

not this one I guess

LLasek would this be approved for merging into tutorial in `OnRender()` ``` //_window...

Lasek•6/29/23, 10:04 PM

Just for the pure chaos : >

LLasek would this be approved for merging into tutorial in `OnRender()` ``` //_window...

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 10:05 PM

a bit blunt of an answer, but: no

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 10:05 PM

perhaps that could be part of a separate tutorial series teaching all the functions of the windowing library (without the comment though)

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 10:05 PM

but not in the core OpenGL tutorials

LLyris the Kitori perhaps that could be part of a separate tutorial series teaching all the functi...

Lasek•6/29/23, 10:06 PM

YOOO

Lasek•6/29/23, 10:06 PM

xDDD

Lasek•6/29/23, 10:06 PM

made my day

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 10:06 PM

but im not going to write that, you'd have to write the whole set of tutorials

LLyris the Kitori but im not going to write that, you'd have to write the whole set of tutorials

Lasek•6/29/23, 10:06 PM

hymmm, maybe one day

Lasek•6/29/23, 10:06 PM

once I'll know how at least some of the stuff works

Aqua•6/29/23, 10:08 PM

this depth buffer thing does remind me that my library doesn't actually support setting the depth buffer at all

Aqua•6/29/23, 10:08 PM

guess i should add that

Aqua•6/29/23, 10:08 PM

currently the library is just
if you don't want 24 bit RGB with 24 bit depth buffer then haha good luck

Aqua•6/29/23, 10:09 PM

ill have to implement it in literally the worst way possible thanks to opengl being opengl but its better than nothing

AAqua currently the library is just if you don't want 24 bit RGB with 24 bit depth buf...

Lasek•6/29/23, 10:09 PM

ahh yes, the funny one

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 10:09 PM

my engine just doesnt support depth buffers :^)

Aqua•6/29/23, 10:09 PM

FAIR

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 10:09 PM

its unnessesary for 2d rendering anyway

LLyris the Kitori my engine just doesnt support depth buffers :^)

Lasek•6/29/23, 10:09 PM

are you Patrick Bateman ???

Aqua•6/29/23, 10:09 PM

yea my engine entirely renders to a separate framebuffer so i can just disable the default depth buffer

Lasek•6/29/23, 10:09 PM

gez

I vaguely recall having some sort of argument about it

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