I wouldn't hold our breaths, considering gnome software barely does the job it's designed to do. 😕
I wouldn't hold our breaths, considering gnome software barely does the job it's designed to do. 
Gwould be the ideal outcome, but yeah it's hard because these stores have to be distro agnostic and it might be too much effort to maintain for only one subsystem
Gwould be nice to integrate into kde settings/gnome settings though, i'd like to avoid making too many "apps" if that makes sense
Joctober 12 is 23.10, and october 24th is Fedora 39 ... so I am hoping to have some semblence of "feature complete" for bluefin by around then, so trying to figure out what a minimum viable product looks like.
Gas in i'd want tighter integration with the respective desktop
JI wish it was simple to just put a "developer mode" toggle in gnome settings and call it a day
Gis it?
JI'm not keen to carry a patch/rpm of gnome stuff though
AThe easiest option might be a gnome shell extension tbh
Bi think i said it before having gnome settings screen for switching distros and/or developer mode shouldnt be first priority anyway cause that means only gnome based things can consume it we should first target an agnostic way that isnt command line (i personally if i was more interested in switching would probably just make something web based and put it into a local PWA/electron app)
Joh that's an interesting solution!
Gif the goal is simply a development mode toggle for bluefin
Gan extension would probably be the easiest, and most seamless
Jyeah I don't think that's going to happen outside of the CLI, I'm happy with a solution for downstream images.
Jlike, who would want a big gui of all the main images anyway?
Gthat's what I mean
Jlike are people switching DEs all the time? it'd be useful for youtubers and people who run linux websites
Gwell for that it's basically just CLI
Bwell it might be usefull for testing but again that can be webui, but might also be of use as a oneoff installation program you just install it on silverblue run select a distro in gui and off you go
Bor maybe as a replacement for ISOS you install the installation system based on base with user creation and stuff like that in kiosk mode with final step being this app in which you select what you want it reboots and you have your install
Gthe end goal would be to have good tooling for making ISOs based on the OCI images, so people don't have to rebase, etc
Gbecause rebasing can get messy
Btrue but we should also make good experiance rebasing because well its a valid usecase at the end of the day i rebased my laptop multiple times when i wanted to go to KDE for some insane reason but then soon figured out that i was just insane for doing so and gone back it was just pain of entering command line, my dream is that for most things we wouldnt need command line unless we wanted it in linux
Amkociso -f Containerfile -o boot.iso I would like some tool like this
Gthat would be incredibly handy
Gwe are probably gonna have to make it ourselves if we want it to become a reality
B99% of people dont need or want an ISO creation tool they want to just load iso onto USB and install. At the end of the day what we actually need is a better installer that can take parameters during install process like image and install said image
AThat would be better but even then I'd still like the tool I said - would be useful when installing multiple systems and to generate ISOs for VMs
Band much closer to that would be a post install app to rebase.
G(yafti)
Bsure but how many do actually install enought multiple systems for this to be a useful endevour, unless we go corporate not that many specially since this kinda makes you not need to reinstall basically ever
Gwe could easily just add a couple of plugins to yafti to allow image selection, rebasing, developer toggle, etc
Bi didnt mean post install app like that look at how i explained above (maybe as a replacement for ISOS you install the installation system based on base with user creation and stuff like that in kiosk mode with final step being this app in which you select what you want it reboots and you have your install)
Gah
Bbasically what i said is if we had image selector app we could basically put it onto a barely there image have all the steps of ootb experiance you find in fedora(user creation...) and then just allow user to select which image they want system reboots and voila they have their system ready
Bi would just want to create as small an image as possible basically the app x or wayland and enought to do the stuff during ootb
Band it could even apply kargs for nvidia when nvidia images are selected.
Jalright I'm going to go the gnome extension route.
GYeah probably the best way to go about it
AMaybe this can help: https://discourse.gnome.org/t/creating-an-extension-with-a-simple-toggle-button/8794
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I’d like to create a minimal extension that has a simple toggle button without menu. I simply want the icon that appears in the gnome panel to directly be a toggle button. I found plenty of examples involving toggle buttons within submenus, but I can’t figure out how to register a click handler on the icon directly. Any ideas? const { GObject...
GA full on rebasing app could fuck up people's systems too, I've heard stories about people rebasing so many times that all the dotfiles are fucked and shit starts to get wack
Japps messing with people's dotfiles are not our fault
Ayeah rebasing isn't completely safe
Japps are breaking spec, they should be fixed
AI broke my GTK configuration and then gnome looked really weird
Jlike that qgnome thing that breaks everything
GYeah but if we make it super easy then people could very easily break their systems
AAnother time I broke my font config and all flatpaks couldn't render text
JI'm switching between variants of a common image
GVariants of a single image works, but rebasing between desktops, etc gets messy
Jyeah but that's not our problem to solve
