I just found out the hard way that the button/hat mapping for the Thrustmaster Warthog grip mounted

I just found out the hard way that the button/hat mapping for the Thrustmaster Warthog grip mounted on the Rhino is different than that shown in the TMW manual (and which is what both the TM and Virpil bases report). I'm asssuming this is intentional for some reason, but I have to say it's not optimal

blave549OP•8/4/23, 10:31 PM

OK today is Mess Around With DCS Day. I am currently flying the UH-1, and I'm not sure how I should have things set up in both Configurator and DCS. Using TelemFFB I'm getting some wonderful effects (e.g. ETL vibrations, which I can feel in my seat!), but the force trim stuff doesn't seem to do anything. I've turned on everything I know to turn on in DCS...

Bblave549 I just found out the hard way that the button/hat mapping for the Thrustmaster W...

kingjamez•8/4/23, 10:36 PM

You can easily map any button to any button in the VPForce configurator. Most of us who use the TMWH have the buttons as they are reported to the VPForce board mapped to the buttons that the original design mapped them to. It takes about 5 minutes to remap.

kingjamez•8/4/23, 10:37 PM

Kkingjamez You can easily map any button to any button in the VPForce configurator. Most of...

blave549OP•8/4/23, 10:38 PM

Oh golly I wish I'd known that. I wondered what the function was for! Doh!

Bblave549 OK today is Mess Around With DCS Day. I am currently flying the UH-1, and I'm no...

Firaga•8/5/23, 3:36 AM

Remember to flick the force trim ingame switch from the cockpit. It works for UH-1 and makes a huge difference.

Bblave549 OK today is Mess Around With DCS Day. I am currently flying the UH-1, and I'm no...

sydost•8/5/23, 9:07 AM

Usually when this happens people have selected sticky option on for spring effect in VPForce configurator. Check that it is off. That overrides the spring force commands from DCS. Another usual suspect is to select wrong trimmer mode in DCS for UH-1. Select “default” trimmer mode (not the one which mentions FFB). If it wasn’t one of these it would be a good idea to post screenshots of VPForce configurator’s settings and effects tabs for troubleshooting.

Boeing757sim•8/5/23, 9:39 AM

Suggestions on which one to order plz

TTheZoq2 Did you end up releasing this feature yet?

Skete•8/5/23, 9:43 AM

Nah it's not out yet

BBoeing757sim Suggestions on which one to order plz 😅

Jehly•8/5/23, 11:06 AM

What are you powering? I just ordered something like the first one and it’s powering the stick AND pedals. So, the second if you’re just powering one.

Boeing757sim•8/5/23, 11:10 AM

@jehlybean - 02 Nos of 57BLF03, using it for ROLL and PITCH, for a DIY yoke

BBoeing757sim @jehlybean - 02 Nos of 57BLF03, using it for ROLL and PITCH, for a DIY yoke

Jehly•8/5/23, 11:26 AM

Well, I'm just reading the #

faq and doing some very light googling. The motors you ordered appear to be the same ones that came in the base (per the notes in the #

faq). The stock power brick shipped with the bases is 180W. I've personally asked a similar question in here when I ordered stuff for my pedals (I want a single power supply, not two) and I bought a 350W. For you, I humbly believe a 240W would be fine.

Boeing757sim•8/5/23, 11:30 AM

@jehlybean thanks , shall start the search for the PSU.

Jehly•8/5/23, 11:31 AM

I got mine from amazon for "like new" for about 15% off.

Jehly•8/5/23, 11:32 AM

Not terribly expensive. I personally believe the "laptop power bricks" are a bit overpriced.

Boeing757sim•8/5/23, 12:48 PM

Yep I will also stick to the SMPS type PSU’s

Boeing757sim•8/5/23, 12:50 PM

@jehlybean what pedals are you using ?

BBoeing757sim @jehlybean what pedals are you using ?

Jehly•8/5/23, 12:52 PM

Virpil. I haven’t done it yet, but I’m intending to turn them into FFB.

Jehly•8/5/23, 12:53 PM

Love them and I think this will only make it that much better.

Boeing757sim•8/5/23, 1:09 PM

Nice, right am I am in the initial stages of designing a diy Boeing yoke, next will be the pedals for FFB

FFiraga Remember to flick the force trim ingame switch from the cockpit. It works for UH...

blave549OP•8/5/23, 2:00 PM

I thought I had that on but will try again. Thx!

Ssydost Usually when this happens people have selected sticky option on for spring effec...

blave549OP•8/5/23, 2:01 PM

I have Stickly disabled, and I'm trying the Default setting in DCS. Maybe the switch thing that the other gentleman mentioned is my issue.

Bblave549 I thought I had that on but will try again. Thx!

Number481•8/5/23, 2:01 PM

If you've been flying helis in MSFS... you may need to disable sticky (Haha.. nvm)

Bblave549 I have Stickly disabled, and I'm trying the Default setting in DCS. Maybe the sw...

Number481•8/5/23, 2:04 PM

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YL5DLkiTxlaNx_zKHEYSs25PjmGtQ6_WZDk58_SGt8Y/edit#heading=h.uc6h2nwcqoka the doc should have what you need to get it working in DCS (and specifically with the Huey)

TheZoq2•8/5/23, 2:42 PM

Is FFB still broken on the gazelle? or is there a combination of settings that makes it work

TTheZoq2 Is FFB still broken on the gazelle? or is there a combination of settings that m...

blave549OP•8/5/23, 2:54 PM

I spent my first Rhino/DCS time in the Gazelle, after not touching DCS for over two years. It is unflyable and I can't figure out why. The collective behaves very strangely, unlike that in the UH-1. I loved the Gazelle even with the old, widely cursed flight model, but something ain't right somewhere.

TTheZoq2 Is FFB still broken on the gazelle? or is there a combination of settings that m...

Anthony•8/5/23, 3:18 PM

Make sure to put the curve/gain in Gaz special settings to zero

TheZoq2•8/5/23, 6:05 PM

I think I had that set. Selecting None for the trimmer mode makes the rhino go back to the center on trim release. Selecting Instant, it drags it off to the side the more I release the trim button

Kruger•8/5/23, 10:42 PM

You need to go to Special tap, there is (I think No 5) a extra option for FFB for this Modul. make sure it is ticked

Kruger•8/5/23, 10:43 PM

The Gazelle flies perfecly fine for me, just did 4 hours in Multicrew in it

TheZoq2•8/6/23, 9:51 AM

Do you mean the "Module individual force feedback toggle"?

TheZoq2•8/6/23, 10:00 AM

That and Instant trim seems to have done the trick, thanks!

HPLsCat•8/6/23, 12:31 PM

Is there a way to get Virpil analog sticks/thumb wheels working when connected to the Rhino? Specifically the VFX, but looking at the FAQ it's not supported yet. Was hoping to get the analog DLC working, but guess that's later.

HHPLsCat Is there a way to get Virpil analog sticks/thumb wheels working when connected t...

walmis•8/6/23, 12:35 PM

It's implemented already

HPLsCat•8/6/23, 12:36 PM

Thanks walmis

Spanner•8/7/23, 11:29 PM

@walmis new adapter worked flawlessly. thank you!

SSpanner @walmis new adapter worked flawlessly. thank you!

walmis•8/8/23, 4:51 AM

Awesome. Looks like I nailed the issues.

slowmover•8/8/23, 7:41 AM

Good morning mates. A fast question. I am build the base for my FFB motors. I wonder what is better for the Cyclic Base. Be 2 parts? Or one part? And why?

walmis•8/8/23, 8:35 AM

It needs to be able to rotate in the center otherwise there will be a gimbal lock when moving diagonally

slowmover•8/8/23, 9:10 AM

@walmis i guess you mean this here

walmis•8/8/23, 9:12 AM

yes indeed

slowmover•8/8/23, 9:12 AM

sorry video is not working.oh i have not think about it

slowmover•8/8/23, 9:14 AM

so we tight it with a nut and ready?

slowmover•8/8/23, 9:14 AM

walmis•8/8/23, 9:37 AM

Yeah those parts need to have a bearing in between and clamped down tight so there is no play

slowmover•8/8/23, 9:41 AM

Thanks a lot for you help

Sslowmover so we tight it with a nut and ready?

TheAmazinGreat•8/8/23, 12:41 PM

This didn’t make sense to me either when I was printing mine because the nut is on the wrong side to secure the bearings. I ended up redesigning so the bearings sit on a spacer and the bolt goes all the way through with enough threads to put the nut on the grip side of the bearings. Works great.

TheAmazinGreat•8/8/23, 12:44 PM

I made the recess for the bolt shoulder deeper and made the top profile of the center section longer to move the bolt closer to the grip end. Used a washer for the spacer and secured the nut from the grip end.

TTheAmazinGreat This didn’t make sense to me either when I was printing mine because the nut is ...

slowmover•8/10/23, 8:49 AM

so you used a bigger screw and moved the but to the end of the bolt?

TheAmazinGreat•8/10/23, 1:10 PM

Where the green arrow is pointing in your picture I extended that shoulder so there was a just enough gap for a washer (can’t remember, M6 I believe?). Then on the other end in increased the depth of the recess so that the bolt length doesn’t need to change.

I just found out the hard way that the button/hat mapping for the Thrustmaster Warthog grip mounted

Similar Threads