fun fact: when .NET 5 was originally announced they promised Java interop everywhere. And when it fi

fun fact: when .NET 5 was originally announced they promised Java interop everywhere. And when it finally released they quietly conveniently forgot they ever said anything about it haha

MMaxine it's really hard to make an "optimization mod" that isn't incompatible with like...

Lyris the Kitori•8/6/23, 11:42 PM

idk sodium does a quite good job

Lyris the Kitori•8/6/23, 11:42 PM

the fabric side of modding is a lot more compatible when it comes to rendering mods

PPerksey fun fact: when .NET 5 was originally announced they promised Java interop everyw...

King•8/6/23, 11:42 PM

Wouldn't suprise me if the reason for that was Oracle being boobs again

LLyris the Kitori the fabric side of modding is a lot more compatible when it comes to rendering m...

Lyris the Kitori•8/6/23, 11:43 PM

even huge rendering effecting mods like create and valkryan skies 2 work fine with sodium

PerkseyOP•8/6/23, 11:43 PM

Haha, I still love how they reacted to J#

PerkseyOP•8/6/23, 11:43 PM

there’s still loads of silly features of the CLI that existed purely because of Java/J#

PerkseyOP•8/6/23, 11:43 PM

like covariant arrays

Lyris the Kitori•8/6/23, 11:44 PM

command line interface

King•8/6/23, 11:44 PM

I'm still convinced the only reason for J# existing was cause some person was just really really like "OMG I GIVE ME THE GODDAMN UNSIGNED"

LLyris the Kitori command line interface

PerkseyOP•8/6/23, 11:44 PM

Knobs language infrastructure

PerkseyOP•8/6/23, 11:44 PM

OR EVEN COMMON LANGUAGE INFRASTRUCTURE

KKing I'm still convinced the only reason for J# existing was cause some person was ju...

Lyris the Kitori•8/6/23, 11:45 PM

you can do unsigned in java by just using JNI to call into a better language like C or C++

Lyris the Kitori•8/6/23, 11:45 PM

then writing all your code in C/C++

Lyris the Kitori•8/6/23, 11:45 PM

then removing java

King•8/6/23, 11:45 PM

ewww don't remind me

King•8/6/23, 11:45 PM

I once tried implementing like... encryption into java

King•8/6/23, 11:45 PM

that involved unsigned bitshifting

Aqua•8/6/23, 11:45 PM

wait java doesnt support unsigned?

PerkseyOP•8/6/23, 11:45 PM

Nope

King•8/6/23, 11:45 PM

and after like days of trying, turns out java don't like unsigned anything, not even bitshifting

Aqua•8/6/23, 11:45 PM

what

Lyris the Kitori•8/6/23, 11:46 PM

the easiest way to do it in pure java iirc is to use the next biggest type, then emulate the smaller type using bitmasks

King•8/6/23, 11:46 PM

I tried just using longs instead but yeah... when you work with encryption stuff and don't really have an entire college's worth of math knowledge

King•8/6/23, 11:46 PM

It becomes very impossible and very depressing

Lyris the Kitori•8/6/23, 11:46 PM

yea welcome to java]

AAqua *what*

Lyris the Kitori•8/6/23, 11:47 PM

yeah, theres 0 unsigned types in java i think aside from char?

King•8/6/23, 11:47 PM

And the worst part was that the encryption was like... XTEA

King•8/6/23, 11:47 PM

1000 years old and the most baby tier encryption stuff ever

King•8/6/23, 11:47 PM

and yet... nope

LLyris the Kitori yeah, theres 0 unsigned types in java i think aside from char?

Aqua•8/6/23, 11:47 PM

that is
an ouch
wtf
why
there is no logic in this

Lyris the Kitori•8/6/23, 11:48 PM

its simpler™

Aqua•8/6/23, 11:48 PM

b r u h

LLyris the Kitori its simpler\™️

King•8/6/23, 11:48 PM

^ literally every single Q&A on the matter you find will say something along those lines

Lyris the Kitori•8/6/23, 11:48 PM

yup

Lyris the Kitori•8/6/23, 11:48 PM

thats the official stance

King•8/6/23, 11:48 PM

You don't need unsigned, you silly billy

TechPizza•8/6/23, 11:48 PM

do you want even more logic?

TechPizza•8/6/23, 11:48 PM

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/809105216985235528/1137859715611774976/image.png

King•8/6/23, 11:48 PM

Just use a bigger type lol

TTechPizza https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/809105216985235528/1137859715611774976/...

TechPizza•8/6/23, 11:49 PM

dispatcher.register is generic, but literal could not infer it

Aqua•8/6/23, 11:49 PM

and pretty soon you discover that almost no C developers actually understand what goes on with unsigned, what unsigned arithmetic is. Things like that made C complex. The language part of Java is, I think, pretty simple.